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George - 19 Jan 2004 05:32 GMT
For a frightening look at America's recent obesity epidemic see
http://www.bantransfats.com/obesitymap.htm

There's been a lot of talk about promoting health through
exercise and limiting food intake rather than by focusing on type of food
consumed.  Harvard weighs in on this at
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/fats.html where they
say:

Most studies show that over the short term, a low-fat diet does result in
weight loss. But many diets show such benefits over the short term. On the
other hand, low-fat diets appear to offer no substantial advantages over
diets with fat levels close to the national average.

Although more research is needed, a prudent recommendation for losing weight
or maintain a healthy weight is to be mindful of the amount of food you eat
in relation to the amount of calories you burn in a day. Exercising
regularly is especially beneficial."

George
Doug Freese - 19 Jan 2004 12:00 GMT
> For a frightening look at America's recent obesity epidemic see
> http://www.bantransfats.com/obesitymap.htm
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> in relation to the amount of calories you burn in a day. Exercising
> regularly is especially beneficial."

Oh boy the low carb folks will string you up for this outburst. ;)
I'm sure all the doctors on staff at the Harvard School of Medical
Health are shills for the potato council or some such clandestine
organization.  :)

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tcomeau - 19 Jan 2004 14:56 GMT
> > For a frightening look at America's recent obesity epidemic see
> > http://www.bantransfats.com/obesitymap.htm
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> Health are shills for the potato council or some such clandestine
> organization.  :)

Actually....

The researchers at Harvard have gone against the mainstream on several
topics. They have shown a great deal of independent thought that
doesn't necessarily jibe with industry goals. At least they look at
the research in an objective manner, for the most part. They don't
alwasy try to make odd results fit into pre-concieved notions.

Unfortunately, they still adhere to the old notions of calories-in vs
calories-out. This gets in the way of understanding that hormones play
*the* major part in fat storage in humans. But, I trust them to come
around eventually.

I've always maintained that the content of fat in the diet is
inversely relared to obesity and plays a smaller role than carbs.

quote:

"Detailed research--particularly that done at Harvard--shows that the
total amount of fat in the diet, whether high or low, has no real link
with disease."

"It is a common belief that the more fat you eat, the more body fat
you put on, and the more weight you gain. This belief has been
bolstered by much of the nutrition advice given to people over the
past decade, which has focused on lowering total fat intake while
increasing carbohydrate intake. However, current data show that this
advice has been misguided. While total fat intake nationwide has
dropped over the last decade, rates of obesity have increased
steeply."

I've also maintained that the amount of cholesterol in food is not
directly related to blood cholesterol levels.

quote:

"And cholesterol in food? While it's true that dietary cholesterol is
linked to heart disease, it certainly isn't the food villain that it's
been portrayed as. What is of most concern is blood cholesterol--the
cholesterol circulating in your blood. High blood cholesterol levels
greatly increase the risk for heart disease. But surprisingly, the
amount of cholesterol in food is not very strongly linked to
cholesterol levels in the blood."

The researchers at Harvard appear to actually be doing science for the
sake of science and they appear to not be trying to sell their souls
to industry. How refreshingly revolutionary of them. Imagine...
scientists that actually appear to be honest and ethical. Wow,
anything is possible in America.

TC
Mark D. - 19 Jan 2004 23:51 GMT
"Doug Freese" <dfreese@NOBShvc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:QFPOb.228388$0P1.66959@twister

> I'm sure all the doctors on staff at the Harvard School of Medical
> Health are shills for the potato council or some such clandestine
> organization.  :)

Stop pretending that 'groupthink' always has an overtly financial
motivation. *Stupidity* and *cowardice* play at least as big a role.

M.
Trent Duke - 22 Jan 2004 15:20 GMT
Very good point here that all should follow.

An exercise program of some sort should be the first step to helping you
lose weight. Then one should eat based on your "active" lifestyle. There is
a post on my weight loss board on how you can calculate this number i.e. the
amount of calories you should consume to lose weight.

Most diets work in their technical sense. It doesn't matter if you are on
Atkins, South Beach or a true low fat diet. All of them have one thing in
common... reducing your caloric intake.

Atkins diet is the couch potato diet IMO. Why? Cause a person cannot be on
an extremely low carb diet and be active. Athletes need carbs up to 70% of
their diet. Plus there are too many side effects and negatives to the Atkins
diet to name here. If you eat mainly good carbs and eat food in portions
(not buffett servings), you are gonna lose the weight.

Trent

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