Medical Forum / General / Nutrition / January 2004
We can prove our supplements work - we have the BioScanner!
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Larry Wade - 20 Jan 2004 21:41 GMT Pharmanex's LifePak provides a full arsenal of nutrients that targets and inhibits free radical damage to DNA that occurs during the natural aging process. LifePak delivers comprehensive nutritional support to help improve your cell DNA's ability to withstand free radical damage. LifePak's full-spectrum formula is proven superior to more than 100 competitors as demonstrated by the LifePak Challenge.*
And now we can prove that LifePak works - and we guarantee it! Pharmanex's BioPhotonic Scanner is a new, cutting-edge testing device that safely and easily measures a carotenoid antioxidant biomarker that provides immediate evidence of antioxidant activity. Carotenoids are powerful antioxidants that are found in abundance in certain fruits and vegetables. They are absorbed in human plasma and tissue and provide an excellent indicator of a person's antioxidant health status.
By simply placing the palm of the hand in front of a low-energy blue light laser, LifePakT consumers obtain an immediate reading of their own antioxidant activity-their Antioxidant Score. As they continue to participate in the LifePakT antioxidant supplementation program, consumers can track their Antioxidant Score for evidence of improved antioxidant activity and protection. They can also compare their scores to scores of others on the Pharmanex Body Defense Index, a summary of all participants scanned in the world. Consumers are then empowered with personalized assessment that can be used to develop an antioxidant defense strategy.
Pharmanex is the exclusive owner of the patented BioPhotonic Scanner technology. Developed by doctors and physicists at a top U.S. research university, the Scanner is the world's first BioPhotonic measuring device for antioxidant activity.
For more information, go to http://larrywade.mypharmanexusa.com/ . Be sure to view the Scanner Video.
*These Statements Have Not Been Evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This Product is not Intended to Diagnose, Treat, Cure, or Prevent any Disease.
markd@toad-net.com - 20 Jan 2004 22:38 GMT What a total fraud, bordering on the criminal, a bunch of greeding money sucking parasites. Anyone who traffics on the fears of people who have health concerns are the lowest form of bottom scum and diseased social trash; and you can quoate me. Here is the perfect reason for more FDA and FTC oversight of the whole health biz.
Larry Wade - 21 Jan 2004 23:26 GMT You must be from a competitor. What's the fraud. The BioScanner was developed at the University of Utah's Center for Bio-Medical Research. As for our supplement LifePak, why are half the olympic athletes taking it if it is not the best! Our competitors are running scared because the BioScanner is the ultimate lie detector for supplements.
Larry
> What a total fraud, bordering on the criminal, a bunch of greeding money > sucking parasites. Anyone who traffics on the fears of people who have > health concerns are the lowest form of bottom scum and diseased social > trash; and you can quoate me. Here is the perfect reason for more FDA and > FTC oversight of the whole health biz. markd@toad-net.com - 21 Jan 2004 23:44 GMT Show the proof for the "lie detector" from an independent source on the web. Show us that your supplimants do anything different then do many many others. From time to time we hear from the bottom scum, from the socialdisease corner.
John 'the Man' - 24 Jan 2004 03:01 GMT Once upon a time, our fellow markd@toad-net.com rambled on about "Re: We can prove our supplements work - we have the BioScanner!." Our champion De-Medicalizing in sci.med.nutrition retorts, thusly ...
>From time to time we hear from the bottom scum, ...\ Actually, we hear from you, Mark, all the time. :(
Just thought that you might want to know. :)
markd@toad-net.com - 22 Jan 2004 00:39 GMT Ok, I saw the proof for myself. By throwing a bit of google at the BioPhotonic I saw the "proof" and the basis on which the claims are made. It uses $5 terms, some of us know what they mean also, to pull a cape of science around their multi level marketing sholders. Here is the dope, something you probably know already. If you eat enough of one version of vit. a it will change the color of your skin. Using technology based on science 50 years old the change in the amount of the substance that causes the skin color change can be detected. The application of this old technology was done by a fello at the U. of Utah, smack in the middle of the largest concentration of the suppliment industry in this country. The "claims" for their version of familiar suppliments show the obvious, vit.s ace have an effect on oxidation of ldl, something they didn't discover and nothing other suppliments don't also do. Did you note the vit. a, our old friend the device that shows it causes skin color change raises it's simple minded head. That's it, eat enough of a form of vit. a nd your skin will change color, anyone's version of that form of vit. a will do and eating vit.s aec can have positive effect on ldl oxidation. PSST buddy, wanna make lots of money pushing our products that includes a gismo we sells that keeps them coming back again and again to keep that skin color the right hue; have I got a mlm for you. Thank you senator Hatch from the good state of Utah and the support for the anything goes non-regulation of the suppliment biz. Like they says on their pages, the FDA ain't approved anything we try to convince you of and if yous buy this stuff it's on you buddy.
Alf Christophersen - 22 Jan 2004 20:07 GMT >Ok, I saw the proof for myself. By throwing a bit of google at the >BioPhotonic I saw the "proof" and the basis on which the claims are made. >It uses $5 terms, some of us know what they mean also, to pull a cape of >science around their multi level marketing sholders. Here is the dope, Seems though interesting as a measurer of carotenoid level in skin. Maybe other antioxidants also affect carotenoid level in skin??
John 'the Man' - 24 Jan 2004 03:03 GMT Once upon a time, our fellow markd@toad-net.com rambled on about "Re: We can prove our supplements work - we have the BioScanner!." Our champion De-Medicalizing in sci.med.nutrition retorts, thusly ...
May I recommend the ancient concept of paragraphs?
Ha, ... Hah, Ha!
>Ok, I saw the proof for myself. By throwing a bit of google at the >BioPhotonic I saw the "proof" and the basis on which the claims are made. [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >FDA ain't approved anything we try to convince you of and if yous buy this >stuff it's on you buddy. markd@toad-net.com - 22 Jan 2004 17:28 GMT Even more interesting info about this fraud, o how something clarifies when one throws some google at it. Our friend the original poster, Enter a whereis query: Larry Wade, is happy to sell the gizmo to you in his mlm scheme, see:
http://www.wade2.com/entrepreneur.html
Look at the language of the pitch, is it money or health that is his concern? Look at the claims he makes about the gizmo, something even Pharmanex don't dare claim. As why do 1/2 of olympic athletes use the Pharmanex multivitamin, two reasons. Pharmanex is a sponsor of the olympics,ie. they pay to have there products to be used by the atheletes at no charge to them. Also, to it's credit, it tests to make sure no false positive drug using tests at the games will appear by making sure there products avoid containing substances to cause them.
For more, read: http://www.quackwatch.org/03HealthPromotion/antioxidants.html
Here is a part:
" In 2002, Pharmanex began promoting its BioPhotonic Scanner for measuring "the antioxidant level in the body" when a person's hand is placed in front of the device. The test is said to measure carotenoid level. Shortly after its availability was announced, I took the company's online "BioScan Quiz, which asked questions about my diet and supplement intake. I found that no matter what answers I gave, I was advised to get scanned and to start using one of the company's antioxidant products, which are quite expensive. As far as I know, however, neither the scan nor the products have been proven to lead to improved health outcomes. I believe that both the scan and the products are a waste of money. " I repeat, this is bottom scum feeding on the health concerns of people, it is a fraud from the worst kind of social disease - exploytation of fear.
John 'the Man' - 24 Jan 2004 03:00 GMT Once upon a time, our fellow markd@toad-net.com rambled on about "Re: We can prove our supplements work - we have the BioScanner!." Our champion De-Medicalizing in sci.med.nutrition retorts, thusly ...
>What a total fraud, bordering on the criminal, ... Talking to yourself, again, Mark?
Ha, ... Hah, Ha!
Alf Christophersen - 22 Jan 2004 20:04 GMT >Pharmanex's LifePak provides a full arsenal of nutrients that targets and >inhibits free radical damage to DNA that occurs during the natural aging You can't call it an antioxidant metering, since it only measure just one class of antioxidants. It should only be called a carotenoid scanner.
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