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"NYC bans fatty oil"

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Jim Chinnis - 10 Dec 2006 21:24 GMT
...according to the El Paso Times. What will those New Yorkers think of
next?!

http://www.elpasotimes.com/health/ci_4815881
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Jim Chinnis  Warrenton, Virginia, USA  jchinnis@alum.mit.edu
Ron Peterson - 11 Dec 2006 04:52 GMT
> ...according to the El Paso Times. What will those New Yorkers think of
> next?!
>
> http://www.elpasotimes.com/health/ci_4815881

The food industry will probably go to palm oil.

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  Ron

Jim Chinnis - 13 Dec 2006 15:58 GMT
"Ron Peterson" <ron@shell.core.com> wrote in part:

>> ...according to the El Paso Times. What will those New Yorkers think of
>> next?!
>>
>> http://www.elpasotimes.com/health/ci_4815881
>
>The food industry will probably go to palm oil.

That's just as "fatty" as any other. (I was commenting on the headline, not
the story.)
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Jim Chinnis  Warrenton, Virginia, USA  jchinnis@alum.mit.edu
TC - 11 Dec 2006 15:57 GMT
Wonder where they plan on getting non-fatty oils.

TC

> ...according to the El Paso Times. What will those New Yorkers think of
> next?!
>
> http://www.elpasotimes.com/health/ci_4815881
> --
> Jim Chinnis  Warrenton, Virginia, USA  jchinnis@alum.mit.edu
GMCarter - 12 Dec 2006 12:46 GMT
>Wonder where they plan on getting non-fatty oils.

Lots of places. They simply won't be hydrogenated into "trans" fats.
TC - 12 Dec 2006 14:49 GMT
> >Wonder where they plan on getting non-fatty oils.
>
> Lots of places. They simply won't be hydrogenated into "trans" fats.

Man you guys are slow.

Oils, by definition, are fats. There is no such thing as oils that are
not fatty. So to ban fatty oils is a redundant statement and it means
to ban all oils.

Geez. Learn the language people.

TC
GMCarter - 13 Dec 2006 10:18 GMT
>> >Wonder where they plan on getting non-fatty oils.
>>
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>
>Geez. Learn the language people.

You can't be serious? OK. Take it slowly. Not all fats are the same.
The chemical structure of a fat is basically a hydrocarbon chain. Now,
that chain can be "saturated" - so that all the carbons connect with a
single bond and hydrogens saturate the chain. Oh, hell...here's a good
description:

http://drinc.ucdavis.edu/dairychem6_new.htm

It's not about banning fat. It's about banning a fat that has LONG
been known to be poorly assimilated and that basically gums up the
works, increasing the risk of cardiovascular disease and obesity.

Unless you're starting to become a devotee of Monty's horseshit.

        George M. Carter
TC - 13 Dec 2006 16:29 GMT
> >> >Wonder where they plan on getting non-fatty oils.
> >>
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>
>         George M. Carter

Do you know how to read? The headline of the piece was:

"NYC bans fatty oil"

Name me one vegetable oil that is not fat.

TC
GMCarter - 14 Dec 2006 12:14 GMT
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>Do you know how to read? The headline of the piece was:
>
>"NYC bans fatty oil"
>
>Name me one vegetable oil that is not fat.

No, I'm illiterate. Can't read or write.

I see--so that was your way of making fun of a silly re line and you
do understand the distinction.

A relief of a sort.
Ron Peterson - 14 Dec 2006 21:47 GMT
> Do you know how to read? The headline of the piece was:

> "NYC bans fatty oil"

> Name me one vegetable oil that is not fat.

Jojoba oil.

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Jim Chinnis - 13 Dec 2006 15:58 GMT
GMCarter <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in part:

>>Wonder where they plan on getting non-fatty oils.
>
>Lots of places. They simply won't be hydrogenated into "trans" fats.

Such as?
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Jim Chinnis  Warrenton, Virginia, USA  jchinnis@alum.mit.edu
GMCarter - 14 Dec 2006 12:19 GMT
>GMCarter <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in part:
>
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>
>Such as?

Sorry. I missed the joke.
Jim Chinnis - 14 Dec 2006 17:49 GMT
GMCarter <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in part:

>>GMCarter <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in part:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>Sorry. I missed the joke.

's ok. It was easy to miss.
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Jim Chinnis  Warrenton, Virginia, USA  jchinnis@alum.mit.edu
just ed - 14 Dec 2006 05:01 GMT
> ...according to the El Paso Times. What will those New Yorkers think of
> next?!
>
> http://www.elpasotimes.com/health/ci_4815881
> --
> Jim Chinnis  Warrenton, Virginia, USA  jchinnis@alum.mit.edu

googling "NYC bans fatty oil" shows several papers carried the AP
story with the ignorant headline.  Many more carried the same
story with "NYC bans trans fats".

no surprise but it is funny.
joni - 14 Dec 2006 22:58 GMT
> googling "NYC bans fatty oil" shows several papers carried the AP
> story with the ignorant headline.  Many more carried the same
> story with "NYC bans trans fats".

Obviously you all know little about transfats .. please do some reading
up:
http://www.bantransfats.com/abouttransfat.html
Note 'alternatives' section.

joanne
just ed - 15 Dec 2006 01:12 GMT
> > googling "NYC bans fatty oil" shows several papers carried the AP
> > story with the ignorant headline.  Many more carried the same
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> joanne

nothing new there, nor do I see the slightest reason to impugn
the understanding of posters thus far (GMCarter was a bit slow
but he got it).  Try reading the thread again.
John Sankey - 16 Dec 2006 15:54 GMT
The full headline is:
"NYC bans fatty oil, orders calorie disclosures"

Reading the article makes the context clear:

"[NYC] is becoming the first city in the country to ban
all restaurants from using artificial trans fats, while
requiring hundreds of eateries to post food calorie
counts right on their menus."

Headline writers are the page layout blokes, not the
grunts who actually write the articles, or even those
who edit the articles.
 
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