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Bioperine vs. Pepper

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Bob - 06 Dec 2006 04:04 GMT
According to Sabinsa that makes Bioperine:
"Bioperine is a standardized extract from the fruit of Piper nigrum L  
(black pepper) or Piper longum L (long pepper). It contains 95 percent
of piperine. Bioperine may be co-administered with various nutrients for
both human and animal health."
http://www.bioperine.com/what_is_it.htm

Piperine is especially useful for enhancing the absorption of curcumin,
which it increases 2000%.
http://pmid.us/9619120

The question is, why not just use black pepper? Which is cheaper? To
answer that we need to know how much piperine is in black pepper...

"However, Kindell (1984) did report an average daily consumption of 359
mg of black pepper daily in the United States. Given that the content of
piperine in black pepper varies between 5 and 9%, this would suggest a
daily consumption of approximately 60 to 110 µmol of piperine."
http://pmid.us/full:12130727

"The natural concentration of piperine in black pepper is around 5-9%."
http://www.nutricentre.com/questhealthlibrary/herbs/piperine.aspx

"Piperine should be present in from 5.5 to 9 per cent. in good black
pepper."
http://www.henriettesherbal.com/eclectic/usdisp/piper.html

"White pepper has a higher content of piperine (C17H19NO3) and
consequently has a hotter taste than black pepper. Fresh peppercorns
contain approx. 5 - 9% piperine."
http://www.tis-gdv.de/tis_e/ware/gewuerze/pfeffer/pfeffer.htm

According to Sabinsa:
 "...if one believes that since Bioperine is sourced out of black
pepper, all one need to do is increase the consumption of black pepper.
Again you have gone wrong, for the direct intake of black pepper will
not help achieve enhanced nutrient absorption.
 According to clinical reports, having Bioperine® in the "right place
at the right time" in the digestive tract with supplemented nutrient
results in enhanced absorption. So Bioperine when taken during illness
will have the best nutrient absorption. Besides if piperine were to
remain captive in the form of raw black pepper, it will take time for
its bioavailability enhancing property to be released. Therefore, a
purified extract of piperine is necessary to get the increased
absorption."
http://www.bioperine.com/black_pepper.htm

If we say pepper contains 5% piperine, and we want 20mg piperine, then
we need 400mg of pepper.

Bioperine powder from BAC costs $2.50 for 1 gram ($2.50/gm).

Ground black pepper from bulkfoods.com costs $25.44 for 5 pounds (2270
grams). At 5% piperine, that's 113.5 grams of piperine ($0.224/gm).
That's about 1/10th the cost of Bioperine.

Taking 20mg Bioperine per day would cost $1.50 per month.
Taking 20mg piperine as 400mg pepper per day would cost $0.13 per month.

If we say pepper contains 7% piperine, then only need 286mg pepper to
get 20mg piperine. Taking that per day would cost $0.09 per month.
RArmant - 06 Dec 2006 14:33 GMT
From the web page --
http://alzheimer.neurology.ucla.edu/diet.html

If your physician agrees with the addition of curcumin and DHA along
with the main treatment program, we think that Alzheimer’ patients might
want to try the combination of curcumin and dha (should be taken
together, because curcumin is not absorbed well unless it is dissolved).
Lecithin appears to improve absorption because it is an emusifier.

+++++++++++++++

What's implied above is that taking curcumin with an oil and an
emusifier (lecithin) will increase absorption.

>According to Sabinsa that makes Bioperine:
>"Bioperine is a standardized extract from the fruit of Piper nigrum L  
[quoted text clipped - 57 lines]
>If we say pepper contains 7% piperine, then only need 286mg pepper to
>get 20mg piperine. Taking that per day would cost $0.09 per month.
Bob Arnold - 07 Dec 2006 03:46 GMT
> From the web page --
> http://alzheimer.neurology.ucla.edu/diet.html
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> What's implied above is that taking curcumin with an oil and an
> emusifier (lecithin) will increase absorption.

Yes, other fats too, like fish oil. Bromalin is another one that is
often mentioned to increase absorption of curcumin. Though, none are
likely to increase it 2000% percent as with piperine.

There's negative data on piperine too. From the PDR:

 "On the negative side, piperine has shown some evidence of being
mutagenic and potentially carcinogenic under some circumstances. It has
reportedly given rise to mutagenic products on reaction with nitrites.
This causes concern since nitrites and piperine may be consumed
simultaneously. Risk might increase with high-dose piperine
supplementation. In another study, piperine appeared to enhance the
bioavailability of aflatoxin B1 in rat tissues. And in yet another
study, piperine was found to be cytotoxic to cultured brain neurons.
Piperine was said to be non-mutagenic, however, in a study examining
effects of the substance on the germ cells of Swiss albino mice.
 In a recent study utilizing albino rats, piperine, given at doses of 5
and 10 mg/kg body weight for 30 days, resulted (at the 10-mg/kg dose
level) in significant reduction in the weights of testes and accessory
sex organs as well as severe damage to seminiferous tubules. The 5-mg/kg
dose resulted in partial degeneration of germ cells.
 Decreased mating performance, decreased fertility and
anti-implantation activity, along with some other adverse reproductive
events, were observed in mice given very high doses of piperine."
http://www.pdrhealth.com/drug_info/nmdrugprofiles/nutsupdrugs/pip_0322.sh
tml

But, with an average consumption of 359 mg per person in the US every
day, and having been consumed for however many hundreds (thousands?) of
years, it's toxic and mutagenic potential seems low at reasonable doses.

It's odd that Sabinsa warns not to use more than 20mg of piperine per
day, when that's around the average dose per person in the country.

> >According to Sabinsa that makes Bioperine:
> >"Bioperine is a standardized extract from the fruit of Piper nigrum L  
[quoted text clipped - 57 lines]
> >If we say pepper contains 7% piperine, then only need 286mg pepper to
> >get 20mg piperine. Taking that per day would cost $0.09 per month.
Bob Arnold - 07 Dec 2006 04:18 GMT
> > From the web page --
> > http://alzheimer.neurology.ucla.edu/diet.html
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Yes, other fats too, like fish oil.

Oops, I read your post earlier and then didn't read it again when I
replied. Of course DHA is in fish oil.

Bob
 
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