Medical Forum / General / Nutrition / January 2007
What is the nutritional value of human meat?
|
|
Thread rating:  |
Ed Zagmoon - 05 Nov 2006 03:19 GMT I eat human meat, because I like its taste. But is it healthy for me or will it turn me into a sick old man?
What can you scientists tell me about human meat as food?
Is it healthy or not?
Mr. Natural-Health - 05 Nov 2006 03:58 GMT > I eat human meat, because I like its taste. But is it healthy for > me or will it turn me into a sick old man? > > What can you scientists tell me about human meat as food? > > Is it healthy or not? Sounds like it rotten out your brain to me. :(
PS: I am referring to both of your brains. Ha, ... Hah, Ha!
Ron Peterson - 05 Nov 2006 05:22 GMT > I eat human meat, because I like its taste. But is it healthy for > me or will it turn me into a sick old man?
> What can you scientists tell me about human meat as food?
> Is it healthy or not? It is potentially dangerous because of danger of disease. Avoid primates also for the same reason.
Pork is said to have a similar taste.
A famous Mexican artist was able to buy cadavers from accidents to eat avoiding those that died of disease.
 Signature Ron
monty1945@lycos.com - 05 Nov 2006 18:03 GMT The "danger of disease?" Perhaps in preparation, but if you boil meat for enough time, could this possibly be a problem? Or is it that you believe in that "prion disease" nonsense?
In any case, I will point out here a general point about any "meat:" If it has a more than tiny amount of lipid content, you have to be concerned about peroxidation issues. It may be "going rancid" before you even obtain it, which is very bad of course. Even if it is "fresh," you should boil it, rather than cook it at high temerature while exposed to air. Some claim that freezing for two weeks is all you need to do - then you can eat it raw. It is better to eat meat from animals that were fed coconut product than from those fed soy and corn, for example, mostly due to the increased susceptibility of the meat to rancidity (lipid peoxidation).
Eating too much of certain meats may mean consuming too much iron, and of course the animals may have been exposed to toxic levels of all kinds of substances, which you will then expose yourself to by eating it. Also, you may be getting too much amino acids of certain types - this is what can happen when you eat only "choice cuts."
Otherwise, there aren't many problems if you eat reasonable amounts of any meat, theoretically.
Unobtrusive - 06 Nov 2006 01:58 GMT > The "danger of disease?" Perhaps in preparation, but if you boil meat > for enough time, could this possibly be a problem? Or is it that you > believe in that "prion disease" nonsense? Nonsense my a.s.
Prions aren't a "disease", it's a "malfunction". In a boiled-down explanation, a prion is a broken key protein chain that bonds like normal with other key protein chains. Because it's not a "foreign body", your immune system doesn't attack it, and because it's only just broken enough to cause a malfunction, it's not reclaimed by your body (it still registers as "healthy").
So; prions form in the same category as cancers, in that they cause the body to break down due to a continuous series of malfunctions. Wherever a prion bonds, it stops the body from working at 100%. One prion is fine, your body's resilient enough to adapt. But if you flood your system with them (such as with meat from a mad cow infected calf/etc), you're bound to cause yourself system-wide problems.
That in essence is what prions do, they're just broken cogs that your body can't see are broken. Unlike cancer, prions are "transmittable" in the sense that protein can be recycled by your body from your meals. You eat a steak, you're getting protein, it's that simple. It doesn't matter whether said steak is from a cow, a crocodile, or a 30-year-old swf from Florida, it's still protein. As your body picks up prions as protein, prions are "recycled" into your body from your meal.
Why is this a bad thing for mad cow "disease"? 'Cause mad cow is essentially a prion overdose caused by the cows being fed beef-based products for generations. Bad processing practice (for animal-quality filler feed) has allowed much of said protein to degenerate until it contains a high amount of broken protein chains; prions. Said cows eat the feed and become sick. Many said cows then get processed -back- into the feed, which causes the problems to worsen. People eat the cows and they get sick. This is because prions cause problems along the food chain, whether you are a cow, a human, or a troll.
Boiling the meat does almost nothing to the quality of the meal, either in terms of health or taste. Many boiled meals use the liquid "broth" as a meal in of itself or even have it thickened to form a sauce/gravy, which means that the nutrients -and problems- then come in as flavouring afterwards. Also, as prions aren't a "disease", there's no health benefits to be gained from cooking and/or freezing them.
Of course, the process of cooking/heating/burning (depending on your skill at cooking) your meal will kill a -large- number of diseases that almost all meats have floating in them, from store-bought meats to that straight off your animal of choice. Likewise, freezing causes the same process, so freezing meats for a long time before cooking them causes the bugs to suffer one apocalyptic ice-age and then a firestorm. This is also why it's a bad idea to refreeze meats; Darwinian theory shows that the bugs in the meat that survive being frozen breed. Putting the meat back in the freezer only slows them down, and worse allows them to spread. Chicken is especially bad for this.
I do also agree with you on the topics of digesting too many of certain amino acids, and also with the basis of feeding animals coconut rather than soy/corn/maize, but the same goes for humans as for cows. Not going too far into why lecithin is bad for you in large quantities though.
Back onto prions and why human meats may be bad for you. Traditionally, long pork has been eaten by civilisations that condone said consumption for religious purposes; ie; look at many early Mesopotamian civilisations, or the Picts for a good example. Modern day "cannibals" mostly theorise about it & fantasise about it, or are cooling their heels in jail. Hate to say it, but if it weren't the case there'd be a lot less publicity about exposed cannibals in the media, so there's a lot less investigation done into the effects of long pork on human beings.
However, from previous studies done into the effects of feeding beef to cows or chicken off-cuts to chickens, more chickens and cows come up with prion-related problems (ie; mad cow) when fed their own species than when not. Even then, more chickens and cows came up with prion-related problems when fed brain and nervous tissue from their own species than when fed other parts. I don't know why that is myself, I'm not going to look too far into that anyway. What I am interested in pointing out is that if you consume "choice cuts" of long pork (ie; brain, eyes, or other high-nerve areas), you're probably -Probably- going to come down sick.
So; freeze your chosen person for two weeks, cook them at a high temperature, and stay away from nerve-intensive areas and you should be fine. Other than the regular problems of eating too much meat; such as getting fat.
Hope that was insightful, and stay away from live current if you can avoid it this summer/winter/whatever the hell season it is.
--Unobtrusive
"Aquarius: Despite the name-sake of your star sign, you cannot breathe water. Stay away from dark alleys filled with terrorists this month, and try not to provoke german shepherds into eating your neck. Your love-life shows signs of improvement only if you can remember to bathe, socialise, and not insult everyone in sight."
Kumar - 06 Nov 2006 08:31 GMT > > The "danger of disease?" Perhaps in preparation, but if you boil meat > > for enough time, could this possibly be a problem? Or is it that you [quoted text clipped - 91 lines] > signs of improvement only if you can remember to bathe, socialise, and not > insult everyone in sight." Easy digestion and absorption of iron is one aspect and fats the other. Anyway, how meat by taruma or least taruma(slow or instant killing) can effect meat quality?
Ron Peterson - 07 Nov 2006 00:38 GMT > The "danger of disease?" Perhaps in preparation, but if you boil meat > for enough time, could this possibly be a problem? Or is it that you > believe in that "prion disease" nonsense? One website describes Kuru as: "This is a transmissable prion disease found only in the Fore people of New Guinea. It first appeared about 60 years ago and the incidence increased until the late 1950's. The disease is now known to have been transmitted through ritual cannibalism: until the late 1950's it was the practice of women and children to eat the brains and viscera of dead relatives, including those who had themselves died of Kuru. Cannibalism stopped in 1957 and the incidence of Kuru has declined sharply since then."
 Signature Ron
Kumar - 06 Nov 2006 08:33 GMT > I eat human meat, because I like its taste. But is it healthy for > me or will it turn me into a sick old man? > > What can you scientists tell me about human meat as food? > > Is it healthy or not? How you arrange/procure it?
Mr. Natural-Health - 06 Nov 2006 14:27 GMT > > I eat human meat, because I like its taste. But is it healthy for > > me or will it turn me into a sick old man? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > How you arrange/procure it? Another example of a thread, where the Village Idiots are gathering to seriously respond to a totally bogus question.
Monty once again proves that he will respond to virtually anything in order to plug his insane views, yet again.
You guys are Ass-Holes!!! And, I do NOT mind saying so.
Unobtrusive - 06 Nov 2006 23:23 GMT > Another example of a thread, where the Village Idiots are gathering to > seriously respond to a totally bogus question. Like you have/are?
> Monty once again proves that he will respond to virtually anything in > order to plug his insane views, yet again. And you are replying because?
> You guys are Ass-Holes!!! And, I do NOT mind saying so. Oh well. Monkey see, monkey do, I guess.
Peace y'all
--U
UriahTWolfe@NowhereNow.com - 06 Nov 2006 23:23 GMT <piggybacking>
"Mr. Natural-Health" wrote:
<snip>
> You guys are Ass-Holes!!! And, I do NOT mind saying so. Mmmm... a.sholes... one of my favorite pieces of human flesh... ;-d Sphincters both within and without are quite tasty little muscles, you know. They're great sliced into strings and deep fried like clam strips. You should try 'em sometime.
;-d -<Slurp!> -- Uriah *********************************** "If you are what you eat, then I _so_ wanna' be -you- right now..." ***********************************
Mr. Natural-Health - 07 Nov 2006 02:29 GMT > > Another example of a thread, where the Village Idiots are gathering to > > seriously respond to a totally bogus question. > > Like you have/are? Perhaps, if you actually read what I wrote?
I am NOT now, nor have I ever taken a post on this thread seriously.
The village idiots on the other hand are. :(
Peter Vallin - 10 Jan 2007 05:18 GMT > I eat human meat, because I like its taste. But is it healthy for > me or will it turn me into a sick old man? > > What can you scientists tell me about human meat as food? > > Is it healthy or not? The Sumerians believed the flesh consumed from a virgin sacrifice (to their sun god Anu) regenerated life in elder tribesmen.They were never proven wrong. Ask the giant Phillistines or the strong Toltecs centuries later. (Why do you think Bush is so puny? Never had it)
|
|
|