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Monounsaturated vs Saturated fat...

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crack baby - 23 Sep 2006 00:00 GMT
My cholesterol is through the roof and for the last year I've been
attempting to reduce my saturated food intake and have begun using
olive oil in everything.  And a few months ago I began taking fish
oil, flax oil, and now some evening primrose oil - all in an
attempt to balance my lipid profile and slow or reverse years of
artery damage.

I know saturated fat inflames the arteries and that monounsaturated
would seem to reduce inflamation.  Since I can't eliminate saturated
fat from my diet, I'm trying to reduce its effects by adding lots
of olive oil in the hopes that at the right ratio the monounsaturated
neutralizes the saturated.  Is this a reasonable assumption or am I
just imagining things?  Finally, what other dietary supplements are
for helping to lower cholesterol?
Jeff - 23 Sep 2006 15:27 GMT
> My cholesterol is through the roof and for the last year I've been
> attempting to reduce my saturated food intake and have begun using
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> just imagining things?  Finally, what other dietary supplements are
> for helping to lower cholesterol?

I think what you need is a consultation with a good nutritionist. Ask your
doctor for a referral.

Jeff
monty1945@lycos.com - 23 Sep 2006 16:52 GMT
"Saturated fat" only "inflames" if you classify lard, which is 39%
saturated, as a "saturated fat."  However, chicken fat is about 30%
saturated. Coconut oil is 92% saturated, and does not cause any
problems.  The reason?  It is an issue of oxidative stress and lipid
peroxidation.  Saturated fatty acids do not cause lipid peroxidation
problems, nor can they be made directly into the molecules that cause
the inflammation, such as LTB4.  Lard is very bad for everything in it
other than the saturated fatty acids, and also due to the way it is
usually used in cooking.  Generally, anything containing cholesterol or
more than very small amounts of unsaturated fatty acids should not be
cooked at high temperatures while exposed to air.  If you want to
understand more about this, and also read about my "anti-inflammatory"
diet, go to:

http://groups.msn.com/TheScientificDebateForum-

I am not selling anything, nor do you have to register to read the
essays or posts on the forum.  I am an independent researcher.  There
is an essay on the dangers of fish oil there, which I advise you read
soon.
crvc56@msn.com - 23 Sep 2006 17:25 GMT
Atkins wrote "The Vita-Nutrient Solution"  It talks a lot about natural
cholesterol treatments.  I take Niacin, Pantothenate and garlic tabs.
Also I switched to a mostly veggie diet.  The fiber binds cholesterol
in the intestine so it can't be absorbed into the blood.  Atkins lists
over 30 nutrients that can influence cholesterol.
Juhana Harju - 23 Sep 2006 17:45 GMT
: My cholesterol is through the roof and for the last year I've been
: attempting to reduce my saturated food intake and have begun using
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
: just imagining things?  Finally, what other dietary supplements are
: for helping to lower cholesterol?

The Portfolio Diet, developed by the Toronto University, is an effective
diet to reduce cholesterol. Studies have shown that it can reduce
cholesterol as much as statin cholesterol drugs. The diet includes almonds,
viscous fiber, soy and plant sterols.

More information about the Portfolio eating plan:

http://www.portfolioeatingplan.com/

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Mr. Natural-Health - 23 Sep 2006 19:16 GMT
> My cholesterol is through the roof and for the last year I've been
> attempting to reduce my saturated food intake and have begun using
> olive oil in everything.  And a few months ago I began taking fish
> oil, flax oil, and now some evening primrose oil - all in an
> attempt to balance my lipid profile and slow or reverse years of
> artery damage.

Effective cholesterol control requires the addition of more fiber to
your diet.  Eat more Whole Grains, Fruits, Vegetables, and Legumes.
Ron Peterson - 24 Sep 2006 05:29 GMT
> My cholesterol is through the roof and for the last year I've been
> attempting to reduce my saturated food intake and have begun using
> olive oil in everything.  And a few months ago I began taking fish
> oil, flax oil, and now some evening primrose oil - all in an
> attempt to balance my lipid profile and slow or reverse years of
> artery damage.

> I know saturated fat inflames the arteries and that monounsaturated
> would seem to reduce inflamation.  Since I can't eliminate saturated
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> just imagining things?  Finally, what other dietary supplements are
> for helping to lower cholesterol?

Adding monounsatures to your diet just increases your calories. If you
are substituting monounsatures for satured fats or carbohydrates there
is some benefit.

The lipid profile doesn't determine wheher the fatty acids in your
blood stream are saturated.

The fiber approach should help keep the body from aborbing saturated
fats from being absorbed.

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Mr. Natural-Health - 24 Sep 2006 10:20 GMT
> > My cholesterol is through the roof and for the last year I've been
> > attempting to reduce my saturated food intake and have begun using
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Adding monounsatures to your diet just increases your calories.

I beg to differ.  :)

#1 Adding MUFAs to your diet dilutes the concentration of SFAs in your
blood as well as at the cellular level.

#2 The Addition of Oliver Oil increases the amount of satisfaction a
person derives from their plant based diet.  Thereby increasing the
likelyhood that a person would stick to their high-fiber diet.

Just thought that you might want to know.
--
john gohde
http://naturalhealthperspective.com/food/
Jim Chinnis - 28 Sep 2006 00:31 GMT
crack baby <crack@backdoho.net> wrote in part:

>My cholesterol is through the roof and for the last year I've been
>attempting to reduce my saturated food intake and have begun using
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>just imagining things?  Finally, what other dietary supplements are
>for helping to lower cholesterol?

What dietary changes you need to make depend on what you are trying to do
and what your lipid profile and possibly other things (such as whether you
are overweight) are like. You talk about reducing cholesterol, balancing
your lipid profile, and reducing inflammation. Those are not equivalent.

Juhana's link to the Portfolio diet is a good one and covers much of what
you are (probably) trying to do.
--
Jim Chinnis  Warrenton, Virginia, USA  jchinnis@alum.mit.edu
John Sankey - 28 Sep 2006 13:30 GMT
See http://sankey.ws/cholesterol.html for my personal
experience in (successfully) reducing cholesterol with diet.
 
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