What are nutritional up-sides and down-sides of eating fish?
Is there a preferable cooking method ?
Farmed fish or Caught Fish?
Does pollution affect the nutritional value?
// I currently do not eat fish, but have done in the past. Would like
to know your opinions on it.
Thanks-in-advance.
TC - 20 Sep 2006 14:51 GMT
> What are nutritional up-sides and down-sides of eating fish?
I see no downside.
> Is there a preferable cooking method ?
Variety is the spice of life.
> Farmed fish or Caught Fish?
Farmed fish a fed pelletized feed and are susceptible to mass parasitic
infections. I eat fresh caught, never farmed.
> Does pollution affect the nutritional value?
Only in specific areas. Close to shore near polluted rivers or shore
lines. Fish caught offshore have little chance of much pollution unles
the entire ocean is cosidered polluted.
> // I currently do not eat fish, but have done in the past. Would like
> to know your opinions on it.
>
> Thanks-in-advance.
Fish is one of the healthiest foods available to humans. Of course,
that assumes minimal or no processing and no added preservatives,
fillers, binders, colorants, etc. Only real fresh or frozen fish from
the fishmonger.
TC
John Sankey - 20 Sep 2006 15:02 GMT
"What are nutritional up-sides and down-sides of eating fish?"
Long-chain omega-3 lipids, vitamin B12, potassium, selenium,
iodine, natural protein.... A 95% vegan plus 5% fish diet easily
provides all the nutrients we need.
"Is there a preferable cooking method?"
Low heat. I poach mine.
"Farmed fish or Caught Fish?"
With farmed fish, you have no idea what you are getting. Fish are
what they eat too. The Alaskan fishery is one of the most
sustainably-managed ones in the world, and pollution in the
fishing areas is about as low as there is. Frozen fish is
obtainable with no additives, isn't overcooked at high
temperature the way canned is, and is usually in much healthier
condition by the time it arrives at market than 'fresh'.
Personally I use High Liner brand - it's the best available
locally; their pink salmon is Alaskan.
Matti Narkia - 20 Sep 2006 16:01 GMT
>What are nutritional up-sides and down-sides of eating fish?
>
>Is there a preferable cooking method ?
As gentle as possible, meaning low temperature. Oven cooking in lowish
temperature may be the best. Avoid overcooking. Then there's of course
raw fish, for example sushi and gravad lax (salted raw salmon).
>Farmed fish or Caught Fish?
Abosulutely caught fish. Quality of fish depends on what it eats and I
don't think that the stuff fed to farmed fish can produce as high
quality fish as caught fish. And farmed fish moves less than wild fish
may therefore have higher amount of saturated fats. Farmed fish has
also much higher arachidonic acid content than wild fish. Arachidonic
acid is a precursor of inflammation mediators and too much of it
promotes inflammation.
>Does pollution affect the nutritional value?
It may, at least in certain areas, but in general benefits of eating
fish are much greater than the potential harmful effects caused by
pollution.
>// I currently do not eat fish, but have done in the past. Would like
>to know your opinions on it.
Fish is continuously discussed in this group and new benefits are
still emerging. I suggest that you search for the old articles in this
group and do also some web searches.

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Blueshark - 20 Sep 2006 22:20 GMT
> As gentle as possible, meaning low temperature. Oven cooking in lowish
> temperature may be the best. Avoid overcooking. Then there's of course
> raw fish, for example sushi and gravad lax (salted raw salmon).
Why gentle? Does something happen to the nutrients when cooked?
Is sushi the most nutritious form?
What about steamed fish?
> Abosulutely caught fish. Quality of fish depends on what it eats and I
> don't think that the stuff fed to farmed fish can produce as high
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> acid is a precursor of inflammation mediators and too much of it
> promotes inflammation.
Ok I got the message, steer clear of farmed fish. I think fish from
sustainable fisheries would be my best course of action.
I will look up Arachidonic for more info on that.
> Fish is continuously discussed in this group and new benefits are
> still emerging. I suggest that you search for the old articles in this
> group and do also some web searches.
Yes I intend to, I am also looking at the vast amount of material in
the usenet archives.
But sometimes it is nice to have discussions!
Thanks.
> >What are nutritional up-sides and down-sides of eating fish?
> >
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> still emerging. I suggest that you search for the old articles in this
> group and do also some web searches.
George Cherry - 20 Sep 2006 18:16 GMT
> What are nutritional up-sides and down-sides of eating fish?
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> // I currently do not eat fish, but have done in the past. Would like
> to know your opinions on it.
There is much good advice on
http://www.oceansalive.org/home.cfm
Take a look at it. Personally I eat wild-caught (NEVER
farmed) sardines, salmon, oysters, or whole baby
clams--about twice a week. The problem with farm-
raised fish is that farmers feed the carnivores CORN.
Another problem is pollution from the fish farms and
the crowding of the fish. These enviroments are very
unhealthy for the fish, the planet, and for us. It's the
flip side of the VERY bad idea of feeding cattle--which
are herbivores--corn, a food which the cattle did not
evolve to eat. The meat industry does this because
corn is a VERY cheap way to fatten the cattle quickly.
Grass-fed beef is very expensive and hard to find.
Most cattle are raised for the first six months of their
lives on pastures and then shipped to feedlots where
they are fattened on corn, beef tallow, and hormones.
The diets and enviroments are so unhealthy for them
they must given antibiotics for the rest of their lives--
about eight months.
George W. Cherry
Blueshark - 20 Sep 2006 22:22 GMT
> There is much good advice on
>
> http://www.oceansalive.org/home.cfm
Good-looking link, ta!
> > What are nutritional up-sides and down-sides of eating fish?
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> George W. Cherry
Blueshark - 26 Sep 2006 12:58 GMT
I just read this on a Vegan mailing list:
It was posted that omega-3 (with DHA) can be found in algae plants.
Is this true - are these 'edible' by humans?
Surely it brings the conumdrum, of eating food made exclusively for
fish - is that not unethical?
> > There is much good advice on
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> > George W. Cherry
Matti Narkia - 26 Sep 2006 13:14 GMT
>I just read this on a Vegan mailing list:
>
>It was posted that omega-3 (with DHA) can be found in algae plants.
That's were fish gets its omega-3s. Fish cannot make them, but gets
them from algae, or algae eating fish or other animals, or fish or
animals eating them etc., etc ... :-)
>Is this true - are these 'edible' by humans?
I believe they are, but you'd have to eat huge amounts of them to get
any significant amount of omega-3s. However, there are algae derived
omega-3 (at least DHA) capsules on the market. They are not cheap
though.
>Surely it brings the conumdrum, of eating food made exclusively for
>fish - is that not unethical?
I don't think that algae would share your opinion, that they are made
exclusively for fish food, if they could have an opinion. :-)

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Blueshark - 26 Sep 2006 21:23 GMT
> I believe they are, but you'd have to eat huge amounts of them to get
> any significant amount of omega-3s. However, there are algae derived
> omega-3 (at least DHA) capsules on the market. They are not cheap
> though.
Hmm, that is good to know, I think it is a necessary source of
nutrition for vegans.
> I don't think that algae would share your opinion, that they are made
> exclusively for fish food, if they could have an opinion. :-)
Fair enough ;) I was being a bit pedantic.
> >I just read this on a Vegan mailing list:
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> I don't think that algae would share your opinion, that they are made
> exclusively for fish food, if they could have an opinion. :-)