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use_replyto_address@despammed.com - 20 Aug 2006 00:32 GMT
xpost sci.med.nutrition,sci.bio.food-science

Enjoy! ;)

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/19/us/19viruses.html
Agency Approves First Use of Viruses as a Food Additive

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: August 19, 2006
WASHINGTON, Aug. 18 (AP) - A mix of bacteria-killing viruses may be
sprayed on cold cuts, wieners and sausages to combat common microbes
that kill hundreds of people a year, federal health officials ruled
Friday.

The ruling, by the Food and Drug Administration, is the first approval
of viruses as a food additive, said Andrew Zajac of the Office of Food
Additive Safety at the agency.

Treatments that use bacteriophages to attack harmful bacteria have been
a part of folk medicine for hundreds of years in India and for decades
in the former Soviet Union.

The approved mix of six viruses is intended to be sprayed onto
ready-to-eat meat and poultry products, including sliced ham and
turkey, said John Vazzana, the president and chief executive of
Intralytix, which developed the additive.

The viruses, called bacteriophages, are meant to kill strains of the
Listeria monocytogenes bacterium, the food agency said.

The bacterium can cause a serious infection called listeriosis,
primarily in pregnant women, newborns and adults with weakened immune
systems. In the United States, an estimated 2,500 people become
seriously ill with listeriosis each year, according to the federal
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Of those, 500 die.

Luncheon meats are particularly vulnerable to Listeria because after
they are bought they are typically not cooked or reheated, which can
kill harmful bacteria like Listeria, Mr. Zajac said.

The preparation of bacteriophages - the name is from the Greek for
"bacteria eater" - attacks only strains of the Listeria bacterium
and not human or plant cells, the food agency said.

"As long as it used in accordance with the regulations, we have
concluded it's safe," Mr. Zajac said.

People normally come into contact with bacteriophages through food,
water and the environment, and they are found in our digestive tracts,
the agency said.

Consumers will not be aware which meat and poultry products have been
treated with the spray, Mr. Zajac said. The Department of Agriculture
will regulate the actual use of the product.

The viruses are grown in a preparation of the very bacteria they kill,
and then purified. The food agency had concerns that the virus
preparation could contain toxic residues from the bacteria, but testing
did not reveal residues, which in small quantities are not likely to
cause health problems anyway, the agency said.

"The F.D.A. is applying one of the toughest food-safety standards
which they have to find this is safe," said Caroline Smith DeWaal,
director of food safety for the Center for Science in the Public
Interest, a consumer advocacy group. "They couldn't approve this
product if they had questions about its safety."

Intralytix, based in Baltimore, first petitioned the food agency in
2002 to allow the viruses to be used as an additive. It has since
licensed the product to a multinational company, which intends to
market it worldwide, Mr. Vazzana said.

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Bob - 21 Aug 2006 02:18 GMT
From the message title, I wonder whether the poster understands that
the viruses being discussed here are of no significance to humans;
they do not infect human cells.

bob

>xpost sci.med.nutrition,sci.bio.food-science
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Enrico C - 21 Aug 2006 04:29 GMT
Bob ha scritto:

> From the message title, I wonder whether the poster understands that
> the viruses being discussed here are of no significance to humans;
> they do not infect human cells.

>From your reply, I wonder whether you have any sense of humor.
Marshall Price - 23 Aug 2006 08:53 GMT
For the sake of discussion, I quote:

"Consumers will not be aware which meat and poultry products have been
treated with the spray, Mr. Zajac said. The Department of Agriculture
will regulate the actual use of the product."

To me, that indicates that the government is taking an anti-democratic
attitude.  Though Bush argues that Pan-Islamists are "Fascist", when
Fascism suits his administration, they're quite ready to decide that
they know best what's good for America -- and in this case, secrecy is
best, because we can't be trusted to know the truth.  We might not
understand.

But perhaps I'm jumping to the wrong conclusion.  Can anybody tell me
how else this news might be taken?

Another quote:

"The viruses are grown in a preparation of the very bacteria they kill,
and then purified. The food agency had concerns that the virus
preparation could contain toxic residues from the bacteria, but testing
did not reveal residues, which in small quantities are not likely to
cause health problems anyway, the agency said."

So, the agency had concerns, but the public must not.  "Testing" did not
"reveal" the toxins they were looking for, so we must trust the agency,
which is not worried.  They say "small quantities" aren't likely to
cause "health problems", and we should *assume* we will never run the
risk of exposure to quantities that aren't small, that "not likely" is
good enough, that the "health problems" which do occur will be nothing
to worry about, and so on.

We know that numerous toxic insults, however small, to the liver and
kidneys have a cumulative effect, increasing the risk of serious,
irreversible damage to these organs, including increased risk of cancer.
 The agency, obviously, isn't worried, nor do they want us to be.

Please, people, correct me if I'm wrong.

Above all floats the unspoken bugaboo of public panic, of course.  In
the Presidentially-vaunted new era of War on Terror, we citizens (and
aliens) have no choice but to toe the Federal con-game line: "Trust us!"
 Otherwise, the Bad Guys might take it the wrong way.

Surely, candor in labeling would mean an end to American freedoms and
victory for Osama.  Obscurantism in labeling means good business and
more tax cuts.  It's as American as casino gambling, fag-bashing, and
fighting welfare as we know it.

I still feel sorry for those slaughterhouse workers who have to wash
their hands every day.  How humiliating!  What's all that secret
irradiation, genetic modification, and virus-spraying for, anyway?

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GMCarter - 23 Aug 2006 11:57 GMT
>For the sake of discussion, I quote:
>
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>best, because we can't be trusted to know the truth.  We might not
>understand.

Thanks for a truly great article. Sadly, it is all too reflective of a
completely out-of-control administration that is so antithetical to
American values and American citizens that I believe it will go down
in history as the single worst administration ever.

Corrupt, secretive, destructive, full of lies, willing to kill and
maim thousands for obscure goals, destructive to the environment,
worshipping at the altar of the worst excesses of capitalism while
spewing fundamentalist perversions of xtianity.

Oh, that's hardly a start...and this is ONE good example of the
systemic abuse and destruction that Bush and his crew commit.

        George M. Carter
GMCarter - 21 Aug 2006 11:13 GMT
>From the message title, I wonder whether the poster understands that
>the viruses being discussed here are of no significance to humans;
>they do not infect human cells.

Thank heavens recombination has so many syllables! Viruses never
change.
GMCarter - 21 Aug 2006 15:40 GMT
>>From the message title, I wonder whether the poster understands that
>>the viruses being discussed here are of no significance to humans;
>>they do not infect human cells.
>
>Thank heavens recombination has so many syllables! Viruses never
>change.

And I should add...viruses hanging out with a bunch of bacteria never
change. And bacteria never change. And humans are descended from God
Almighty cause a Scientologist told me so.
 
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