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Medical Forum / General / Nutrition / June 2006How well regarded is Bill Sardi?
Woke up to an infomercial on the radio for a multivitamin - Purity's Perfect Multi Super Green, consisted of an interview with a Dr. Bill Sardi. This same station for a long time used to run an infomercial in the same time slot for some human growth hormone snakeoil crap that made unbelievably brazen, outlandish claims - "stop and reverse the aging process" etc. with a similarly sincere sounding spokesman who had a very scientific sounding explanation of why this product was a miracle boon to mankind etc. However, looking around the net I see Bill Sardi's name all over the place, apparently has written extensively on the topic of nutrition and on the Purity website his name is integrated with the product. Anyone have any opinions on whether this guy a/or the product are legit? http://www.purityproducts.com/product.asp?sku=57 > Anyone have any opinions on whether this guy a/or the product are legit? I should have added, do you feel these vitamins worth the price or can you get essentially the same thing for susbstantially less? Noting you're supposed to take 4 of these daily. : Woke up to an infomercial on the radio for a multivitamin - Purity's : Perfect Multi Super Green, consisted of an interview with a Dr. Bill [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] : : http://www.purityproducts.com/product.asp?sku=57 It might be a good idea to post the same question to sci.life-extension. There are people who are more knowledgeable about supplements.  SignatureJuhana You should only take a supplement if you know exactly why you are taking it. Many people are selenium deficient, for example, but some have too much. It's also important to take the right form. All the "anti-aging" stuff is about "inflammation," which can be kept under control with a diet of only trace amounts of unsaturated fatty acids and hardly any oxidized cholesterol. Eating some berries, prunes, dark chocolate, etc. is a good idea too. Use organic butter and dairy in general (without additives, such as carrageenan), along with coconut products as you major fat sources. As to Sardi, he has written some good stuff, no doubt, but I'm only interested in the connections one can make from the biochemical/molecular level up to the level of "health" and "disease," and I read the original evidence and draw my own conclusions. I don't want a "guru" or "expert" interpreting the evidence the way he/she thinks is best. >As to Sardi, he has written some good stuff, no doubt, but I'm only >interested in the connections one can make from the >biochemical/molecular level up to the level of "health" and "disease," >and I read the original evidence and draw my own conclusions. I don't >want a "guru" or "expert" interpreting the evidence the way he/she >thinks is best. And yet your interpretation of the data leads you to say HIV does not cause AIDS? Why should your opinions count for anything when you cling to that fatally stupid fantasy? As to Bill Sardi, what I like about him is the way he dissects some of the recent spate of pharma-promoting propaganda put out by the AP and other news sources attempting to discredit supplements by distorting the data. A recent example being the nonsense about glucosamine and chondroitin for osteoarthritis of the knee. For mild disease, placebo worked almost as well with a slight edge for the COX-2 inhibitor (that may give you a heart attack), celecoxib (Celebrex). But for moderate-to-severe disease, the gluc+chond combo worked FAR better than the Celebrex--but that is not what got reported! I read the original NEJM article and this is the case. I first noted the analysis here: http://www.knowledgeofhealth.com/ George M. Carter "And yet your interpretation of the data leads you to say HIV does not cause AIDS? Why should your opinions count for anything..." Because this forum is supposed to be based upon science, George, not opinion, though you always seem to be blissfully unaware of this basic fact. Few posting on this newsgroup are likely aware that I have asked you, over and over again, to provide ONE experiment that adheres to the scientific method and demonstrates that the "HIV" retrovirus was isolated from all other possible agents that might cause a "positive" result on the various "HIV tests," as well as evidence based upon the scientific method that demonstrates exactly how this "virus" causes at least one of 29 "diseases" about 10 years later, and that you have never cited anything from the scientific literature. Perhaps you would care to do so now, lest you risk looking like the fool that you apparently are on a different newsgroup. Or perhaps you simply enjoy the attention? This newsgroup is sci.med.nutrition, not cult.georgecarter.infallible. Please make a note of this before your next post. For all others who read this: note that he never addresses the issues, but simply attacks others peronally and brings up off-topic issues that often belong on an entirely different newsgroup. >"And yet your interpretation of the data leads you to say HIV does not >cause AIDS? Why should your opinions count for anything..." > >Because this forum is supposed to be based upon science, Then what the hell are you doing here? > "And yet your interpretation of the data leads you to say HIV does not > cause AIDS? Why should your opinions count for anything..." > > Because this forum is supposed to be based upon science, George, not > opinion, That's rich since all you have is opinion - either your own or the received opinions of Ling et al. > Few posting on this newsgroup are likely aware that I have asked > you, over and over again, to provide ONE experiment that adheres to the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > scientific method that demonstrates exactly how this "virus" causes at > least one of 29 "diseases" about 10 years later, Why not add "that can be repeated at home with common household supplies" while you're at it? Isn't the fact that it can be passed by transfusion enough for you? There's no way there'd be enough arachidonic acid in a blood transfusion to do all the damage seen in AIDS, but a replicative agent is different. > For all others who read this: note that he never addresses the issues, > but simply attacks others peronally and brings up off-topic issues that > often belong on an entirely different newsgroup. Hmm, you're either projecting or have confused yourself. MattLB > Woke up to an infomercial on the radio for a multivitamin - Purity's Perfect > Multi Super Green, consisted of an interview with a Dr. Bill Sardi. > > Anyone have any opinions on whether this guy a/or the product are legit? Ha, ... hah, Ha! Who was it that said there is a new sucker born every minute? It always amazes me how anybody can ask this common question. Yet, these stupid questions persist!!! Infomercial commercials exist for the benefit of the seller. They exist to get your money rather than educate you. All of them are total rip offs by definition. Even if the product has benefits, you will clearly be paying through the nose for it. Frankly, I would like to see all radio, newspapers, magazines, and television stations that broadcast infomercials be prosecuted for conspiring to defraud the public out of their money. There is one AM radio station in Richmond, VA that has been broadcasting for over a decade every Sunday morning these infomercials that alternate with religious broadcasts also trying to get your money. Clearly the public is buying this crap because they are just a bunch of mindless suckers. Newsflash: Infomercials are not a source of reliable information on which vitamin supplements a person should be buying. > > Woke up to an infomercial on the radio for a multivitamin - Purity's Perfect > > Multi Super Green, consisted of an interview with a Dr. Bill Sardi. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > It always amazes me how anybody can ask this common question. Yet, > these stupid questions persist!!! When you're done congratulating yourself on how much more brilliant than everyone else you are, do you know anything about Bill Sardi? > When you're done congratulating yourself on how much more brilliant than > everyone else you are, do you know anything about Bill Sardi? You have my condolences. And, Bill Sardi is elated by your insistence on being defrauded. > > When you're done congratulating yourself on how much more brilliant than > > everyone else you are, do you know anything about Bill Sardi? > > You have my condolences. > > And, Bill Sardi is elated by your insistence on being defrauded. You may or may not have noticed, I asked a question looking for information. You apparently have none to impart. *plonking the assclown* > > > When you're done congratulating yourself on how much more brilliant than > > > everyone else you are, do you know anything about Bill SardiSardi? [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > *plonkingassclownassclown* Yeah, ... I can see all the hordes of people on the Internet answering your really seriously stupid question. Just my opinion, but I am NEVER wrong when it comes to fools like you who insist on being defrauded. Sardi after all is protected by the US constitution. Fulltime journalist who just happens to like to take advantage of the stupid people out there who believe that infomercials are actually educational opportunities to improve themselves. Have a nice life, idiot. Does anyone know Sardi's credentials? Is he a doctor (some say he is, but seems like even his website doesn't mention that he is)? If a doctor, what kind of a doctor? Thank you. |
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