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Scientific Fraud: A Reminder...

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Uncle Gordon - 24 Jan 2006 12:19 GMT
http://www.spinwatch.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1265

Gord.
John Sankey - 24 Jan 2006 15:33 GMT
From the article cited:
"In a survey published June 9 in the journal Nature, about 1.5
percent of 3,247 researchers who responded admitted to
falsification or plagiarism."

These two charges are totally different! Falsification is
contrary to the most basic elements of science, while plagiarism
is merely a human failing.

Gee, I was lucky in my scientific career. No one ever put a
pascal of pressure on me to exceed my abilities, or that of my
experiments or equipment. All I needed was curiosity, a fondness
for economy of explanation, and the belief that if I couldn't
explain anything I was doing even to my youngest child I didn't
really understand it myself.
DZ - 24 Jan 2006 23:14 GMT
> http://www.spinwatch.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1265

I like the part that says that according to research by Prof. David
Wright "foreign nationals who learned somewhat different scientific
standards" is one of the "basic reasons" of "why scientists cheat".

Does that imply that Canadian nationals are the culprits and the basic
reason of why scientists cheat? :-) Seriously, I doubt cheating is
tolerated any more lightly in any non-US system that produces research
scientists.

That said, I openly admit that I fake data all the time, except that I
call it "simulations". "Real" data is such a hindrance anyway.

1) It is expensive. Many people won't spit for $20 to give a DNA
sample not to mention give blood to benefit ungodly research they
don't trust.

2) You'd have to be careful not to overstep consent, protect privacy,
keep the lab notebook, ... In short, become a part-time accountant.

3) With real data, you never know "the truth", whereas with samples
taken from a simulated population you're the one who specified all the
parameters. So you know how often what you're finding is what you're
supposed to find and thus determine how well your method works.

4) Any results obtained with a real data set are subject to
statistical sampling whereas with simulations, the distribution of
results can be examined over repeated samples produced under exactly
the same conditions.
TC - 26 Jan 2006 19:33 GMT
> > http://www.spinwatch.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1265
>
> I like the part that says that according to research by Prof. David
> Wright "foreign nationals who learned somewhat different scientific
> standards" is one of the "basic reasons" of "why scientists cheat".

American scientists are just so goll-darned honest and they, in no way,
are motivated by the billions of $$ being spent by industry to fund
their studies.

Dontcha know?

I don't think most american researchers understand the basic concepts
of ethics. They are almost all crooked, you know like the politicians
that direct the FDA, the NIHs and the USDA.

TC

> Does that imply that Canadian nationals are the culprits and the basic
> reason of why scientists cheat? :-) Seriously, I doubt cheating is
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> results can be examined over repeated samples produced under exactly
> the same conditions.
 
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