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Medical Forum / General / Nutrition / August 2005homopathetic "medicine"
In the ongoing thread there are many opinions and even some humor and several reports of individuals. What is lacking is valid science to support the homopathetic truth claims. When, and only when, it can survive standard normal research measures can we give even a moments of serious consideration. Attempts have been made and the article starting the other thread reviewed them and all showed they didn't survive the process, they worked as well as sugar pills, or water, or whatever form was used. Advocates must be able to explain this failure or all are justified in turning away from the "truth claims" leaving them in the very large pile of "also ran" notions to have come down the pike. > In the ongoing thread there are many opinions and even some humor and > several reports of individuals. What is lacking is valid science to > support the homopathetic truth claims. Actually, there is much scientific evidence that suggest homeopathy is utter bullshit, as well. Jeff When, and only when, it can > survive standard normal research measures can we give even a moments of > serious consideration. Attempts have been made and the article starting [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > justified in turning away from the "truth claims" leaving them in the very > large pile of "also ran" notions to have come down the pike. Troll someplace else bullshitter. Why can your science not explain why homeopathic remedies work better than drugs mostly? > > In the ongoing thread there are many opinions and even some humor and > > several reports of individuals. What is lacking is valid science to [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > justified in turning away from the "truth claims" leaving them in the very > > large pile of "also ran" notions to have come down the pike. > Troll someplace else bullshitter. > > Why can your science not explain why homeopathic remedies work better than > drugs mostly? Can you please support your claim that homeopathic remedies work better than drugs mostly? I mean real evidence. As far as I know, there is no good evidence that homeopathy is anything but diluted water. It only works for the quacks selling it. You may want to put your posts inline rather than at the top. It makes it easier to follow a conversation. Not that I am suggesting a conversation with you is worth following..... Have a wonder day. Jeff >> > In the ongoing thread there are many opinions and even some humor and >> > several reports of individuals. What is lacking is valid science to [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > very >> > large pile of "also ran" notions to have come down the pike. Trolls never change I guess Here we go again. You need a new line. Prove that homeopathics do **NOT*** work. Prove that your statements are scientific and cannot be inscorrect. Prove your name is really Jeff. > > Troll someplace else bullshitter. > > [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > very > >> > large pile of "also ran" notions to have come down the pike. >Prove that homeopathics do **NOT*** work. Prove that your statements are >scientific and cannot be inscorrect. Anything that relies on the homeopathic idea of the theory of infinitesimals *CANNOT* work because this little theory violates the Laws of Physics. Then me thinks your "laws of physics" are incorrect. > >Prove that homeopathics do **NOT*** work. Prove that your statements are > >scientific and cannot be inscorrect. > > Anything that relies on the homeopathic idea of the theory of > infinitesimals *CANNOT* work because this little theory violates the > Laws of Physics. >> >Prove that homeopathics do **NOT*** work. Prove that your statements are >> >scientific and cannot be inscorrect. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Then me thinks your "laws of physics" are incorrect. From you, I wouldn't expect better. > Trolls never change I guess > > Here we go again. You need a new line. > > Prove that homeopathics do **NOT*** work. Prove that your statements are > scientific and cannot be inscorrect. Oh, that is not how science works. In fact, what you have to prove is that they DO work. Unless you do that, science expects that they do not. BTW, that is the basic principle of science and it is quite reasonable. In short, you never complicate your model (e.g. laws of physics) unless you have a real evidence of such need. You might not agree with this method, but it got us from ancient ages to the age of internet, tripling our average lifespan on the way. Mirek >> Trolls never change I guess >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > In fact, what you have to prove is that they DO work. Unless you do that, > science expects that they do not. And sometimes finds lots of evidence that they don't, too... http://www.homeowatch.org/ K. "Why can your science not explain why homeopathic remedies work better than drugs mostly?" A strawman question, they cann't be shown to be as claimed. The original article starting this thread tested that question, if people didn't know if they were taking a homopathetic "drug" or a placebo the health results were the same. Science does have an answer to the larger question, the placebo effect is real and it prompts people to percieve things that are not in fact there. This is why in the old days doctors gave sugar pills for people who had various complaints, who later reported that those were "great pills doc, they straightened me right out". >Troll someplace else bullshitter. > >Why can your science not explain why homeopathic remedies work better than >drugs mostly? For the same reason that astrology does. People just believe in the stuff. > In the ongoing thread there are many opinions and even some humor and > several reports of individuals. What is lacking is valid science to > support the homopathetic truth claims. When, and only when, it can > survive standard normal research measures can we give even a moments of > serious consideration. Homoeopathic doctors argue about the negatively charged energy in the dilution everytime the medicine is vigorously vibrated . The higher the potency the higher is the negative charge . Perhaps there is some meaning as it works on some people suffering from chronic diseases . IMHO Please . Kam >> In the ongoing thread there are many opinions and even some humor and >> several reports of individuals. What is lacking is valid science to [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >is some meaning as it works on some people suffering from >chronic diseases. Bwahahahahahahah! |
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