http://www.neoeugenics.com/
1. Human intelligence is largely hereditary.
2. Civilization depends totally upon innate intelligence. Without
innate intelligence, civilization would never have been created. When
intelligence declines, so does civilization.
3. The higher the level of civilization, the better off the population.
Civilization is not an either-or proposition. Rather, it's a matter of
degree, and each degree, up or down, affects the well-being of every
citizen.
4. At the present time, we are evolving to become less intelligent with
each new generation. Why is this happening? Simple: the
least-intelligent people are having the most children.
5. Unless we halt or reverse this trend, our civilization will
invariably decline. Any decline in civilization produces a commensurate
increase in the collective "misery quotient."
Logic and scientific evidence stand behind each statement listed above.
So, what are your thoughts?
Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com - 28 Aug 2005 23:32 GMT
waltershengameri...@yahoo.com wrote:
> http://www.neoeugenics.com/
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> So, what are your thoughts?
COMMENT:
It won't happen very fast. It took us thousands of years to shrink
housecats' brains this way, and they breed at 6 months. So we've
thousands of years for it's a problem, and LONG before that, it will be
irrelevent.
Long before we have to worry about consequences of not using eugenics,
we'll be able to control these things (whatever intellegence genes you
can find, and want) petty directly. That's 10 years off, maybe. The
major delay will be FDA/social politicing, as you see with
"reproductive cloning." But as with cloning, people who want it will go
to South Korea or someplace, until the artificial market barriers no
longer hold.
Not long after THAT, you can forget about natural unaugmented human
intelligence anyway. Coming along is machine intelligence and the
"Borg" which WE make ourselves. The stuff you worry about will be about
as relevent as some guy in 1875 worrying about horse-manure street load
if the population should reach anything so high as 300 million.
SBH
Nick - 29 Aug 2005 01:25 GMT
Our children are being dumbed down
by the so called education system.
And the universities are brain washing
machines dedicated to robbing them
of their common sense.
Americans are getting stupid.
Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com - 29 Aug 2005 03:03 GMT
> Our children are being dumbed down
> by the so called education system.
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> Americans are getting stupid.
COMMENT:
Well, that's what happens when you make education anything other than a
strict meritocracy. It's so politically correct right now that you
can't write a = dv/dt without being accused of phalocentric scientism
in need of decontruction to uncover its real subtexts and the class
function that this piece of technobureaucratic discourse serves in a
capitalistic society. Never mind that you know what it means.
So, we import our grad students from China where they don't know any of
those words--- BUT thankgod can still understand math, engineering,
chemistry, and physics. With luck, maybe they can still find tech work
here that hasn't been given away to "historically desciminated against
groups", or outsourced back to China.
SBH
Mr-Natural-Health - 29 Aug 2005 15:28 GMT
> and LONG before that, it will be
> irrelevent.
Kind of like your posts, huh Steve?
Way too long and way too irrelevant.
Just my opinion, but I am right on target once again. :)
And, oh by the way try using a dictionary once in a while.
Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com - 30 Aug 2005 00:48 GMT
> And, oh by the way try using a dictionary once in a while.
What for? I know what all the words mean. If I don't always type or
spell them corectly, you're welcome to run them through your own
spellcheck program, THEN read it. If you absolutely must waste your
time. Alternately, if you don't want to read my irrelevant opinions,
feel free to killfile me entirely. That will save your blood pressure
problems with my typos, too.
SBH
Mr-Natural-Health - 30 Aug 2005 02:55 GMT
> That will save your blood pressure
> problems with my typos, too.
My blood pressure? Don't you remember? I am the guy with the 90/60
blood pressure. Must be my dentures. :)
Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com - 30 Aug 2005 04:58 GMT
> > That will save your blood pressure
> > problems with my typos, too.
>
> My blood pressure? Don't you remember? I am the guy with the 90/60
> blood pressure. Must be my dentures. :)
More likely all that Viagra.
Susan - 29 Aug 2005 03:16 GMT
> So, what are your thoughts?
I just want to mention here, in passing that I only have one child.
Susan ;-)
Jim Chinnis - 29 Aug 2005 23:59 GMT
waltershengamerican@yahoo.com wrote in part:
>1. Human intelligence is largely hereditary.
In the past.
>2. Civilization depends totally upon innate intelligence. Without
>innate intelligence, civilization would never have been created. When
>intelligence declines, so does civilization.
Yep. IF intelligence declines, the type of human civilizations we have today
will decline or become irrelevant or displaced by other intelligence-based
systems.
>3. The higher the level of civilization, the better off the population.
>Civilization is not an either-or proposition. Rather, it's a matter of
>degree, and each degree, up or down, affects the well-being of every
>citizen.
Whoa. "The higher the level of civilization, the better off the population."
You have evidence of that?
>4. At the present time, we are evolving to become less intelligent with
>each new generation. Why is this happening? Simple: the
>least-intelligent people are having the most children.
And they are in charge of the governments. This will bring about an
"adjustment" shortly.
>5. Unless we halt or reverse this trend, our civilization will
>invariably decline. Any decline in civilization produces a commensurate
>increase in the collective "misery quotient."
You already said that.
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Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA jchinnis@alum.mit.edu