I should add that from the subject, I thought it was about how to use leaves
when you have to go in the woods and stuff. Actually, i wasn't that far off.

Jeff

Observe, if you will, their negative and irrational emotionality.

Would you want people like this assessing your state of health?  Would
you entrust yourself into their care?

With what will they heal you?  With their sarcasm and sardonic humor?
With their hubris?  With their absolute certainty that all truth
resides with them and all else is folly and nonsense?

They write like out of control fools because that is what they are.
Their opinions are worthless, their "care" could only harm.

No wisdom resides with them.  There is no love in their hearts. They
really do not wish for you to be well.  Their concern is keeping the
illness industry going.

Listen to them and you will hear their hatred in every word.

Frankly, I don't think that you have a clue as to what you are talking
about.

Your reference refers to "Nerve energy."  I bet you don't know that
Nerve energy is nothing but historical allopathic medical theory?  Much
of Quacky Natural Hygiene can be traced back a couple of hundred years
to allopathic medical theory, or precisely what you are feebly trying
to knock.

"The system of medicine prevailing in the Colonies in the years
immediately preceding the American Revolution, was that of the Dutch
physician and teacher Hermann Boerhaave (1668-1738). The Boerhaavian
theory of disease explained it in terms of chemical and physical
qualities, such as acidity and alkalinity, or tension and relaxation.
The Boerhaavian system was increasingly being challenged in the second
half of the 18th century by the theories of William Cullen (1710-1790),
a Scottish physician and teacher. Cullen held that an excess or an
insufficiency of nervous tension was the cause of all disease. Too much
tension was often characterized by a fever, to be treated by a
depleting regiment including bleeding, a restricted diet, purging, and
rest and sedation. A cold or chill, on the other hand, indicated too
much relaxation and called for restorative measures."
http://tutorials.naturalhealthperspective.com/allopathy.html

"What is generally not realized is that the American Health Reform
Movement of hygienic systems obviously embraced many of the 18th and
19th century philosophical beliefs of allopathy (ex, health benefits of
fresh air, miasmas, enervation as the cause of all disease, belief that
a complete diagnosis is unnecessary before treatment begins because
there basically is only one disease, and concern with the acidity and
alkalinity of the body) while strongly rejecting most, but not all of
the allopathy's treatment methods ( health benefits of drinking
vinegar, importance of cleansing the digestive tract, and use of enemas
were adopted by the Health Reform Movement, for example). It is, thus,
historical fact that the American Health Reform Movement of hygienic
systems embraced many of the 18th and 19th century philosophical
beliefs of allopathy and, thus, these forms of alternative medicine
started out by embracing the then science of allopathy."
http://tutorials.naturalhealthperspective.com/allopathy.html

You also obviously aware of the fact that a very large number of the
full text of  Natural Hygiene and Nature Cure historical books are
available online for FREE, are you  not?

_Natural Hygiene Man's Pristine Way Of Life_ by HERBERT M. SHELTON
http://www.soilandhealth.org/02/0201hyglibcat/020125shelton.pristine/020125toc.htm

_TOXEMIA EXPLAINED _ By J. H. TILDEN, M. D.
http://www.soilandhealth.org/02/0201hyglibcat/020103toxemia/02010301.html

_Fasting, Hydropathy and Exercise_ by BERNARR MACFADDEN
http://www.soilandhealth.org/02/0201hyglibcat/020137macfasting/macfasting-toc.htm

_Impaired Health: ITS CAUSE AND CURE_ By J. H. TILDEN, M. D.
http://www.soilandhealth.org/02/0201hyglibcat/020116tildenpt1/020116toc.html

_APPENDICITIS: THE ETIOLOGY, HYGIENIC AND DIETETIC TREATMENT_ By J. H.
TILDEN, M. D.
http://www.soilandhealth.org/02/0201hyglibcat/020104/02010400frame.html

For dozens of more free online books, just follow the hyperlinks.

By the way: the call for a return to nature belongs to the nature cure
movement, or naturopathy.  The call for a 'return to nature' is in fact
referring to the use of herbal medicine which is in direct opposition
to the use of synthetic medicines by conventional medicine.

Since natural hygiene is fundamentally against the use of herbal
medicines, it does NOT advocate a 'return to nature.'

This is precisely what 'return to nature' means.  Any other sloppy use
of the phrase is precisely that: Sloppy. :)

Neither, does natural health.  As defined by moi, and strongly
suggested by Andrew Weil, MD in his books natural health only advocates
the use of simple natural therapies. There is no requirement for a
return to nature.  Jack LaLanne, for example, advocates that no one
should eat what man makes yet drinks high soybean protein shakes all
the time. There is no real contradiction here because there is no
requirement to do only what is natural. In natural health, one would
use herbal medicines or a return to nature only when one is sick, but
never on a long term basis unless one is treating a chronic health
condition.

Just my opinion, but I am always right.

Yep, the proof is in.  I whooped Visual Purple's a.s on this THREAD.
She is back posting on other threads, babbling incoherently foaming at
the mouth.

Don't go away mad, Purple. Just go away.

Just my opinion, but I have NEVER been wrong before. :)