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Medical Forum / General / Nutrition / August 2005Why do vegetarians whine so much?
They're practicing to be vegans. TC > They're practicing to be vegans. > > TC Definition: Vegetarian: Indian word for lousy hunter TC > > They're practicing to be vegans. > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > TC <snicker> "How much skill does it take to sneak up on a leaf?" --Larry Niven (Asked by a Kzin referring Pierson's Puppeteers in "Ringworld").  SignatureOm. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson You're both idiots. > You're both idiots. Ditto! I think TC is having a mental break down. TC, you have my condolences. > They're practicing to be vegans. > > TC http://www.frankandernest.com/cgi/view/display.pl?95-04-20 http://www.vegetus.org/vegtoon/veg9.htm http://www.vegetus.org/vegtoon/veg19.htm http://www.vegetus.org/vegtoon/veg6.htm http://www.frankandernest.com/cgi/view/display.pl?98-06-15 http://www.frankandernest.com/cgi/view/display.pl?94-12-30 TC Funny stuff! Fat people are so jolly..... > Funny stuff! Fat people are so jolly..... That is because when they fall down, fatso's tend to roll. Ha, ... Hah, Ha! >Funny stuff! Fat people are so jolly..... Vegetarians apparently need to work on their sense of humour. :o( RBR No, they are just sick of flesh eating rhetoric. You meat eaters don't have the discipline it takes to eat a healthy vegetarian diet so you choose to ridicule. Why? Because you feel inferior. Why? Because you are. You have failed to yet catch up on our evolutionary path. We have achieved a new level, we are superior beings, we have discipline to refrain from cannibalism. So you quite naturally feel your inferiority. One day you will be able to reach our level. Until then, I suppose we will have to endure your taunts and insults. But that's okay because being superior beings, we are not affected by it. I can't help but respond to you bozos however. > >Funny stuff! Fat people are so jolly..... > > Vegetarians apparently need to work on their sense of humour. :o( > > RBR >You meat eaters don't have the discipline it takes to eat a healthy >vegetarian diet so you choose to ridicule. I don't like a vegetarian diet. Why would I eat that way? For punishment? >>You meat eaters don't have the discipline it takes to eat a healthy >>vegetarian diet so you choose to ridicule. > >I don't like a vegetarian diet. Why would I eat that way? For >punishment? ;o) RBR >No, they are just sick of flesh eating rhetoric. > >You meat eaters don't have the discipline it takes to eat a healthy >vegetarian diet so you choose to ridicule. I *do* have the discipline to eat a healthy diet ... a healthy omnivorous diet of vegetables, fruits, nuts and moderate amounts of certain meats, especially fish. I consume very little dairy. I eat more vegetables than some vegetarians. >Why? Because you feel >inferior. Why? Because you are. You have failed to yet catch up on our >evolutionary path. We have achieved a new level, we are superior >beings, we have discipline to refrain from cannibalism. So you quite >naturally feel your inferiority. OMG, you're delusional as well as paranoid! BTW, I *do* refrain from cannibalism. I have yet to eat a fellow human being. >One day you will be able to reach our level. Until then, I suppose we >will have to endure your taunts and insults. But that's okay because >being superior beings, we are not affected by it. Oh, I hope I *never* sink to your level. I probably won't since, for starters, I don't treat my diet as a religion. RBR Ever heard "you are what you eat"? I guess that makes you among other things, a cow, a pig, a sheep, shall I go on?? > Oh, I hope I *never* sink to your level. I probably won't since, for > starters, I don't treat my diet as a religion. > > RBR >Ever heard "you are what you eat"? I guess that makes you among other >things, a cow, a pig, a sheep, shall I go on?? No, Ann, the lack of animal protein in your diet is more than apparent now. > >Ever heard "you are what you eat"? I guess that makes you among other > >things, a cow, a pig, a sheep, shall I go on?? > > No, Ann, the lack of animal protein in your diet is more than apparent > now. No, Meat Eater, the lack of B-12 in Ann's diet is more than apparent. Just thought that you might want to know. >Ever heard "you are what you eat"? I guess that makes you among other >things, a cow, a pig, a sheep, shall I go on?? Does that make you ... a vegetable Ann? RBR You take in all that the animal you ate took in. (Including the emotional trauma and cells that are created by the disease caused by such trauma and fear.) That doesn't make you uncomfortable? You are eating animals which produce feces just as you do. So you may as well be eating sh*t. Go ahead..... >You take in all that the animal you ate took in. (Including the >emotional trauma and cells that are created by the disease caused by >such trauma and fear.) Ann, with all due respect, get a brain, man! > You take in all that the animal you ate took in. (Including the > emotional trauma and cells that are created by the disease caused by > such trauma and fear.) > > That doesn't make you uncomfortable? You have been posting to the wrong ng. S/B alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian So, now we are cross-posting. :) > You are eating animals which produce feces just as you do. So you may > as well be eating sh*t. Actually, it should be ... you are eating piss. Animal piss is what gives red meat its delicate flavor. Yummmy ... can't you just savor all that animal piss in your mouth? >> You take in all that the animal you ate took in. (Including the >> emotional trauma and cells that are created by the disease caused by [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Yummmy ... can't you just savor all that animal piss in your mouth? Why not, if tastes good and is consistent with health? This "ick factor" type of argument is typical of anti-meat fundies. Do you worry about legs and thorax-bits and traces of excrement of insects making into your salads? Yes? Too bad, they're a great source of B-12 and other trace elements in which you are probably deficient. Uh, I actually wash my vegetables ... Guess you never heard of that being a cave man... > Do you worry about legs > and thorax-bits and traces of excrement of insects making into your salads? > Yes? Too bad, they're a great source of B-12 and other trace elements in > which you are probably deficient. > Uh, I actually wash my vegetables ... Guess you never heard of that > being a cave man... As I said, part of what you're washing off is essential nutrients not available in plants. And most of what you think you're washing off won't wash off anyway, like pesticides and herbicide residues that permeate the plants. >> Do you worry about legs >> and thorax-bits and traces of excrement of insects making into your >> salads? >> Yes? Too bad, they're a great source of B-12 and other trace elements in >> which you are probably deficient. >> Uh, I actually wash my vegetables ... Guess you never heard of that >> being a cave man... > >As I said, part of what you're washing off is essential nutrients not >available in plants. As in untreated human sewage from the farmer's own septic tank, for example. [Spanish vegetables, many of which end up on British dinner plates, are being watered with untreated sewage in parts of Spain as farmers battle to raise crops in a severe drought. The environment minister, Cristina Narbona, and Spanish newspapers raised the alarm after outbreaks of a resistant form of salmonella in Britain and Finland were linked to imported Spanish lettuce. Ms Narbona warned cabinet ministers that more farmers in the vegetable-growing region of Murcia would use untreated sewage if clean irrigation water were not made available.] http://www.guardian.co.uk/food/Story/0,2763,1521407,00.html Think of all that essential B12 we whiney lot are washing away, and for no other reason than our stupid and irrational squeamishness. Get a grip! Well we are not in a drought here in U.S. and do not need to wash our vegetables in sewage. Talk about changing the subject! All that meat is making your thinking dull. >Well we are not in a drought here in U.S. and do not need to wash our >vegetables in sewage. > >Talk about changing the subject! > >All that meat is making your thinking dull. I'm a vegan, you stupid bitch. I guess all that "sewage" talk gave you a sewage mouth. Name calling .... sign of an immature, undeveloped mind. Perhaps you need a glass of milk. > I'm a vegan, you stupid bitch. >I guess all that "sewage" talk gave you a sewage mouth. Go f.ck yourself. > >I guess all that "sewage" talk gave you a sewage mouth. > > Go f.ck yourself. Hey Derek, did you notice how the post began with a joke about how whiny vegans and vegetarians are and most of the subsequent posts are the vegans and vegetarians whining about it. They are too stupid to see how their behavior confirms the stereotype. Idiots. TC >> >I guess all that "sewage" talk gave you a sewage mouth. >> >> Go f.ck yourself. > >Hey Derek Go f.ck yourself. > >> >I guess all that "sewage" talk gave you a sewage mouth. > >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Go f.ck yourself. Likewise.... You're stupider than they are.... idiot. >> >> >I guess all that "sewage" talk gave you a sewage mouth. >> >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Likewise Eat sh.t and die choking on it, c.nt. > > >I guess all that "sewage" talk gave you a sewage mouth. > > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > TC "Why do vegetarians whine so much?" sounds like a whine to me. So, who's the stupid idiot? Better get your B12 levels checked.. > > > >I guess all that "sewage" talk gave you a sewage mouth. > > > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > "Why do vegetarians whine so much?" sounds like a whine to me. > So, who's the stupid idiot? Better get your B12 levels checked.. It was a joke. You guys sure seem sensitive to it though. Methinks thou dost protest too much. TC > > > > >I guess all that "sewage" talk gave you a sewage mouth. > > > > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > TC You project too much. > > > > > >I guess all that "sewage" talk gave you a sewage mouth. > > > > > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > You project too much. You whine too much. B12 will resolve that. TC > > > > > > >I guess all that "sewage" talk gave you a sewage mouth. > > > > > > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > TC Still whining I see. Dolt. >"Why do vegetarians whine so much?" sounds like a whine to me. >So, who's the stupid idiot? Better get your B12 levels checked.. Actually it is an observation Pearl. RBR > On 22 Aug 2005 05:31:56 -0700, "Ann" <Well4Life0@lycos.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > I'm a vegan, you stupid bitch. All those vegetables are making her thinking dull. > On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 00:11:10 -0700, "Dutch" <no@email.com> wrote: >>> [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > washing away, and for no other reason than our > stupid and irrational squeamishness. Get a grip! I didn't say it was irrational to wash vegetables, I merely stated that it removes nutrients, some of which vegetarians will have difficulty obtaining from other foods. Draw your own conclusions. How does washing vegetables/fruits, remove nutrients?? What proof do you offer for such a statement? I have never heard of such a thing. > I didn't say it was irrational to wash vegetables, I merely stated that it > removes nutrients, some of which vegetarians will have difficulty obtaining > from other foods. Draw your own conclusions. > How does washing vegetables/fruits, remove nutrients?? What proof do > you offer for such a statement? I have never heard of such a thing. http://www.dietobio.com/vegetarisme/en/vit_b12.html "Plant foods are completely devoid of B12 unless they are contaminated with bacteria. This can be the case when you organically grow your own vegetables and you do not wash them correctly. However, you cannot rely on our vegetables' dirt for your B12 intakes." >> I didn't say it was irrational to wash vegetables, I merely stated that >> it >> removes nutrients, some of which vegetarians will have difficulty >> obtaining >> from other foods. Draw your own conclusions. That site states among other things: "Vitamin B12 does not exist in the plant world and vegetarians who do not consume eggs or dairy products should really be concerned and assure their intake in B12." This is incorrect. Vegetarians do ear dairy. Vegans do not. I happen to be a vegetarian and see no reason to be a vegan. This argument about dirt seems to be all the rage now. People are apparently even purchasing dirt to eat because they don't trust their own! Seems I read something to that effect while skimming through "The Makers Diet" where the author's father gave him a package of dirt to eat. > http://www.dietobio.com/vegetarisme/en/vit_b12.html > "Plant foods are completely devoid of B12 unless they are contaminated with [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >> obtaining > >> from other foods. Draw your own conclusions. > That site states among other things: > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > This is incorrect. Vegetarians do ear dairy. Vegans do not. Not all vegetarians eat dairy products. Veganism is more than just strict vegetarianism, it pretends to be a "movement", it has "Animal Rights" and quasi-political overtones that extend beyond dietary choices. I consider it an eating disorder which will soon have a name. Obsession with health is already one, "orthorexia nervosa" or "Health Food Junkie" http://www.pamf.org/teen/life/bodyimage/orthorexia.html, I suggest veganism be called "Ethicsia Nervosa". > I happen to > be a vegetarian and see no reason to be a vegan. Congratulations, seriously. > This argument about dirt seems to be all the rage now. People are > apparently even purchasing dirt to eat because they don't trust their > own! Seems I read something to that effect while skimming through "The > Makers Diet" where the author's father gave him a package of dirt to > eat. That's all bollocks to me, I just pointed out that absent the contamination factor, plants fail to provide all the necessary nutrients for health. >> http://www.dietobio.com/vegetarisme/en/vit_b12.html >> "Plant foods are completely devoid of B12 unless they are contaminated [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> >> obtaining >> >> from other foods. Draw your own conclusions. > That site states among other things: > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > This is incorrect. Vegetarians do ear dairy. Vegans do not. I happen to > be a vegetarian and see no reason to be a vegan. It gets worst than that. It takes B-12 to convert folate into folic acid. Thus, vegetarians need even more B-12 than meat eaters do. Otherwise, they will also be deficient in folic acid as well as B-12. Just thought that you might want to know. >> That site states among other things: >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> >> This is incorrect. Vegetarians do ear dairy. Can you digest the dairy ingested through your ear? >>Vegans do not. I happen to >> be a vegetarian and see no reason to be a vegan. So you don't have to put milk in your ear? > It gets worst than that. It takes B-12 to convert folate into folic > acid. Thus, vegetarians need even more B-12 than meat eaters do. > Otherwise, they will also be deficient in folic acid as well as B-12. There's no problem--if vegetarians and vegans take a few simple and inexpensive precautions. See below. (Note: Older meat-eaters are just as much in danger of B-12 deficiency, because up to 30% of people ages 50 and over suffer from a thinning of the stomach lining--which reduces their ability to extract B-12 from animal sources.) 1. Vegetarians and vegans should take a multivitamin every day. B-12 supplementation is very inexpensive; and you can take a lot of the supplement without danger. (Even very large doses of B-12 don't appear to pose any danger.) 2. A healthy person's liver can store up to a five-year supply of B-12. BTW, this fact indicates that our ancestors had to eat meat only occasionally. 3. Vegans can eat tempeh, which is made from femented soybeans (the bacteria produce the B-12). Of course, this makes them "bacteria vegans". : o ) George > > How does washing vegetables/fruits, remove nutrients?? What proof do > > you offer for such a statement? I have never heard of such a thing. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > and you do not wash them correctly. However, you cannot rely on our > vegetables' dirt for your B12 intakes." You stupid crack addict! It's been proven that grasses uptake usable B12 when grown in manured ground. Wheat is one such grass. > >> I didn't say it was irrational to wash vegetables, I merely stated that > >> it > >> removes nutrients, some of which vegetarians will have difficulty > >> obtaining > >> from other foods. Draw your own conclusions. > > > How does washing vegetables/fruits, remove nutrients?? What proof do > > > you offer for such a statement? I have never heard of such a thing. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Wheat is one such grass. Bullplop. Wheat, hard red spring New Search Scientific Name: Triticum aestivum L. NDB No: 20071 Nutrient Units Value per 100 grams of edible portion Number of Data Points Std. Error Proximates Water g 12.76 38 0.307 Energy kcal 329 0 0 Energy kj 1377 0 0 Protein g 15.40 56 0.308 Total lipid (fat) g 1.92 5 0.101 Ash g 1.89 31 0.044 Carbohydrate, by difference g 68.03 0 0 Fiber, total dietary g 12.2 0 0 Sugars, total g 0.41 0 0 Minerals Calcium, Ca mg 25 106 0.699 Iron, Fe mg 3.60 87 0.062 Magnesium, Mg mg 124 106 3.939 Phosphorus, P mg 332 21 14.278 Potassium, K mg 340 71 13.548 Sodium, Na mg 2 70 0.085 Zinc, Zn mg 2.78 106 0.046 Copper, Cu mg 0.410 72 0.008 Manganese, Mn mg 4.055 51 0.091 Selenium, Se mcg 70.7 0 0 Vitamins Vitamin C, total ascorbic acid mg 0.0 0 0 Thiamin mg 0.504 19 0.082 Riboflavin mg 0.110 19 0.004 Niacin mg 5.710 2 0 Pantothenic acid mg 0.935 2 0 Vitamin B-6 mg 0.336 5 0.039 Folate, total mcg 43 2 0 Folic acid mcg 0 0 0 Folate, food mcg 43 2 0 Folate, DFE mcg_DFE 43 0 0 Vitamin B-12 mcg 0.00 0 0 Vitamin A, IU IU 9 0 0 Vitamin A, RAE mcg_RAE 0 0 0 Retinol mcg 0 0 0 Vitamin E (alpha-tocopherol) mg 1.01 0 0 Vitamin K (phylloquinone) mcg 1.9 0 0 Lipids Fatty acids, total saturated g 0.314 0 0 4:0 g 0.000 0 0 6:0 g 0.000 0 0 8:0 g 0.000 0 0 10:0 g 0.000 0 0 12:0 g 0.000 83 0 14:0 g 0.004 83 0 16:0 g 0.283 83 0 18:0 g 0.014 83 0 Fatty acids, total monounsaturated g 0.303 0 0 16:1 undifferentiated g 0.066 83 0 18:1 undifferentiated g 0.236 83 0 20:1 g 0.000 0 0 22:1 undifferentiated g 0.000 0 0 Fatty acids, total polyunsaturated g 0.765 0 0 18:2 undifferentiated g 0.727 83 0 18:3 undifferentiated g 0.036 83 0 18:4 g 0.000 0 0 20:4 undifferentiated g 0.002 83 0 20:5 n-3 g 0.000 0 0 22:5 n-3 g 0.000 0 0 22:6 n-3 g 0.000 0 0 Cholesterol mg 0 0 0 Amino acids Tryptophan g 0.195 4 0 Threonine g 0.433 9 0 Isoleucine g 0.541 9 0 Leucine g 1.038 9 0 Lysine g 0.404 10 0 Methionine g 0.230 10 0 Cystine g 0.404 5 0 Phenylalanine g 0.724 10 0 Tyrosine g 0.441 9 0 Valine g 0.679 9 0 Arginine g 0.702 10 0 Histidine g 0.330 10 0 Alanine g 0.555 9 0 Aspartic acid g 0.808 10 0 Glutamic acid g 4.946 10 0 Glycine g 0.621 9 0 Proline g 1.680 9 0 Serine g 0.663 9 0 Other Alcohol, ethyl g 0.0 0 0 Caffeine mg 0 0 0 Theobromine mg 0 0 0 Carotene, beta mcg 5 0 0 Carotene, alpha mcg 0 0 0 Cryptoxanthin, beta mcg 0 0 0 Lycopene mcg 0 0 0 Lutein + zeaxanthin mcg 220 0 0 USDA National Nutrient Database for Standard Reference, Release 17 (2004) Wheat contains zero B12. TC > > > > How does washing vegetables/fruits, remove nutrients?? What proof do > > > > you offer for such a statement? I have never heard of such a thing. [quoted text clipped - 120 lines] > > TC You are as bad as that idiot Dutch. Was that wheat grown in MANURED ground!? Manure puts B12 into the soil. cuntflap Ron Hamilton lied: > > > > > How does washing vegetables/fruits, remove nutrients?? What proof do > > > > > you offer for such a statement? I have never heard of such a thing. [quoted text clipped - 126 lines] > > Manure puts B12 into the soil. But NONE into the WHEAT, you stupid shitweed. > cuntflap Ron Hamilton lied: > > > > > > [quoted text clipped - 130 lines] > > But NONE into the WHEAT, you stupid shitweed. It has been proven that wheat uptakes B12 when the B12 is available in the soil. B12 was originally found to be in wheat in 1948. No wonder you identify with cucumbers. Same intellectual capacity. > > > > > How does washing vegetables/fruits, remove nutrients?? What proof do > > > > > you offer for such a statement? I have never heard of such a thing. [quoted text clipped - 126 lines] > > Manure puts B12 into the soil. You cannot be that stupid. Wheat contains zero B12. It does not matter how much manure there is in the ground. You can't make a silk purse out of a pig's ear and you can't make gold out of lead and you can't get wheat with b12. Sheesh. Talk about wishing upon a star. TC > You cannot be that stupid. Wheat contains zero B12. It does not matter > how much manure there is in the ground. You can't make a silk purse [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Sheesh. Talk about wishing upon a star. At first I agreed with TC that the only way you will get the b12 from the manure is if you eat the sh.t. Then I looked up mushrooms, an obvious plant that enjoys manure, and one large mushroom contains .04 mcg of B-12. So I guess the question are mushrooms a natural provider of b12(I think not) and does it in fact get absorbed from it's environment. OTOH I'd like to know how one can tell what wheat is grown in sh.t vs. artificial fertilizer, or organic? Maybe it's on the label - "grown is 100 % cow sh.t." I think someone has been smoking mushrooms if wheat contains B-12. -DF > > You cannot be that stupid. Wheat contains zero B12. It does not matter > > how much manure there is in the ground. You can't make a silk purse [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > -DF Mushrooms, aka. psilocybin, are eaten, not smoked. And they are fungi. TC > As I said, part of what you're washing off is essential nutrients not > available in plants. ?? This is balogny (which you probably eat). Washing off dirt and insects is washing off essential nutrients??? What a nut! > And most of what you think you're washing off won't wash off anyway, like > pesticides and herbicide residues that permeate the plants. Oh reallY? I buy organic vegetables in most cases meat head. > >> Do you worry about legs > >> and thorax-bits and traces of excrement of insects making into your > >> salads? > >> Yes? Too bad, they're a great source of B-12 and other trace elements in > >> which you are probably deficient. I get plenty of B vitamins. I - like most informed people - take supplements. >> As I said, part of what you're washing off is essential >> nutrients not [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Oh reallY? I buy organic vegetables in most cases meat head. =========================== Hey, veg-brain, Organic does not mean pesticide-free3 or cruelty-free, killer. Actually many organic pesticides are more toxic than smoe synthetic counterparts, and are used in greater abundance. Guess your few remaining brain cells can't seem to wrap themselves around anything put propaganda, lys, and delusions, eh killer? >> >> Do you worry about legs >> >> and thorax-bits and traces of excrement of insects making [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > take > supplements. =================== Which are far from nautural and cruelty-free, hypocrite... Thanks for further proof than veg*n means brain-dead acceptance of myths.... >> As I said, part of what you're washing off is essential nutrients not >> available in plants. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >I get plenty of B vitamins. I - like most informed people - take >supplements. Are your B-12 supplements from animal sources or are they useless B-12 analogues? You poor fools can't see that there is a reason human's require meat but your religious beliefs supercede reality. :o( RBR > > And most of what you think you're washing off won't wash off anyway, like > > pesticides and herbicide residues that permeate the plants. > > Oh reallY? I buy organic vegetables in most cases meat head. >From what I read organic vegetables are still likely to be contaminated by pesticides. These pesticides float in the air from neighboring farms. The wind flows sand from Saudi Arabian sand storms to the Unites States so it should not be hard to believe that these pesticides can float hundreds if not thousands of miles if not from directly across the street. Just thought that you might want to know. >> As I said, part of what you're washing off is essential nutrients not >> available in plants. > > ?? This is balogny (which you probably eat). Washing off dirt and > insects is washing off essential nutrients??? What a nut! B-12 for one can only be obtained from vegetation by leaving traces of insects. >> And most of what you think you're washing off won't wash off anyway, like >> pesticides and herbicide residues that permeate the plants. > > Oh reallY? I buy organic vegetables in most cases meat head. Organic pesticides and herbicides then.. >> >> Do you worry about legs >> >> and thorax-bits and traces of excrement of insects making into your [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I get plenty of B vitamins. I - like most informed people - take > supplements. What if vitamin supplements are not available or too expensive for some people? Vitamin B 12, or more appropriate, a good multi vitamin B complex, is less expensive than meat and will last over a month! A steak will be gone when you eat it. > What if vitamin supplements are not available or too expensive for some > people? > Vitamin B 12, or more appropriate, a good multi vitamin B complex, is > less expensive than meat and will last over a month! A steak will be > gone when you eat it. That's true for you and I, but I was referring to people in other parts of the world, the *majority* of the human race who don't have access to discount pharmacies on every corner, who may make a few dollars a day, or live off what they can grow or scrounge. Multivitamins are low on their priority list. >> What if vitamin supplements are not available or too expensive for some >> people? So they can eat fish. > > Vitamin B 12, or more appropriate, a good multi vitamin B complex, is > > less expensive than meat and will last over a month! A steak will be [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >> What if vitamin supplements are not available or too expensive for some > >> people? > So they can eat fish. Then they would be breaking the sacred commandment of veganism, "Thou shalt not allow animal parts to cross thy lips." They would risk being viewed as savages by some urban nincompoops. >> > Vitamin B 12, or more appropriate, a good multi vitamin B complex, is >> > less expensive than meat and will last over a month! A steak will be [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> >> some >> >> people? Being vegetarian isn't what makes them whiners. They *already* were whiners. Vegetarianism - more accurately, "veganism" - is just a form of expression they chose for their whining. > Being vegetarian isn't what makes them whiners. They *already* were > whiners. Vegetarianism - more accurately, "veganism" - is just a form > of expression they chose for their whining. LOL!! Quite a statement coming from the biggest potty-mouthed whiner on the internet. right on cue, zero Ron Hamilton whined: >>Being vegetarian isn't what makes them whiners. They *already* were >>whiners. Vegetarianism - more accurately, "veganism" - is just a form >>of expression they chose for their whining. > > Quite a statement Shut up, you whining homo. > right on cue, zero Ron Hamilton whined: > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Shut up, you whining homo. LOL!! That the best you got you kewl little cucumber? >>Ever heard "you are what you eat"? I guess that makes you among other >>things, a cow, a pig, a sheep, shall I go on?? > > Does that make you ... a vegetable Ann? Yes, Ann is one sweet tomato! GWC >>>Ever heard "you are what you eat"? I guess that makes you among other >>>things, a cow, a pig, a sheep, shall I go on?? >> >> Does that make you ... a vegetable Ann? > >Yes, Ann is one sweet tomato! Well lover boy, I'd say she is more like a nutburger like all vegan extremists. RBR I am not a vegan RBR. I am a vegetarian. > >Yes, Ann is one sweet tomato! > > Well lover boy, I'd say she is more like a nutburger like all vegan > extremists. > > RBR >I am not a vegan RBR. I am a vegetarian. You sound like you are well on your way ... RBR "TC" <tunderbar@hotmail.com> wrote in part: >They're practicing to be vegans. Another science thread from "TC." Hmmm. -- Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA jchinnis@alum.mit.edu |
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