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Medical Forum / General / Nutrition / August 2005Weight gain without eating
My daughter who is 19yrs old gains weight without eating barely anything. Is there someone out there that knows if this is a petuitary problem?? I feel sorry for her cause she is always trying to lose weight and is very active physically but, just continues to gain weight. Please help, Thanks, Tim > My daughter who is 19yrs old gains weight without eating barely anything. Is > there someone out there that knows if this is a petuitary problem?? I feel > sorry for her cause she is always trying to lose weight and is very active > physically but, just continues to gain weight. Please help, Thanks, Tim Take her to an endocrinoligist.... It's not how much you eat, but WHAT you eat!  SignatureOm. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson It is how much you eat ! Fat from animal srcs is far more costly than from Carbs ! Same for protein !! lower cost to make protein from carbs ! Your body naturally chooses the most efficient method to make it's FATTY ACIDS , CHOLESTEROL LDL's . _____________________________ The Daughter : If you are healthy other wise , reducing input... ONLY IF YOU CAN CONVINCE YOUR BODY IT IS OK TO DO SO ( read w/o causing pain ) will reduce your wt . But here's the stop ! Humans eat for pleasure . It is impossible to fast unless you are on your death bed . I know , i've tried , but til i had GERD 2 years ago , i had pain every time i cut back to O.J. and a slice o' bread a day . Now it is easy . I am normal ( 61y.o. White 170 lbs on tea and toast each day ) . I had to learn a lot . First you must believe that your blood sugar will NOT drop . Train your brain to give you sugar when you make the big decision ! sugar is sucrose ( a blend of glucose and fructose ) So where's the poison ? There is nothing harmful in sugar !!! The process is so simple there could not possibly be anything "latent" ! You pay no price for eating sugar except maybe tooth loss ! Vegans sometimes can't keep up with converting only starch to glucose .... sugar your tea ! On demand ,Glucose is converted to protein more efficiently/lower cost than eating meat ! > On demand ,Glucose is converted to protein more efficiently/lower > cost than eating meat ! Glucose cannot convert to protein. Protein is made up of amino acids and Essential aminos have to be aquired from the diet. Live on tea and toast all you want, but you will end up with amino acid deficiencies after awhile. Cheers! SignatureOm. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson > It is how much you eat ! > Fat from animal srcs is far more costly than from Carbs ! Same for > protein !! lower cost to make protein from carbs ! "lower cost to make protein from carbs"?! are you sure you posted in the right group? : My daughter who is 19yrs old gains weight without eating barely : anything. Perhaps she is learning to live on light nutrition. http://www.selfempowermentacademy.com.au/htm/divine.asp -- Juhana > My daughter who is 19yrs old gains weight without eating barely anything. Is > there someone out there that knows if this is a petuitary problem?? I feel > sorry for her cause she is always trying to lose weight and is very active > physically but, just continues to gain weight. Please help, Thanks, Tim You may want to consider if she has an eating disorder, which can be common in young women. If you rarely see her eating and she is exercising a lot, it may be that she is binge eating in private. She should probably see her doctor though, to rule out any medical issues first.. Will McGugan >My daughter who is 19yrs old gains weight without eating barely anything. Is >there someone out there that knows if this is a petuitary problem?? I feel >sorry for her cause she is always trying to lose weight and is very active >physically but, just continues to gain weight. Please help, Thanks, Tim Has she been tested for thyroid problems? Thyroid.......that is what i meant.......not petuitary.....what do i know. Ya, no, she has not been tested for that i don't believe. I will have to ask her if she would like to have that done. She has always eaten like a bird and just continues to gain weight. I was told once that peoples motablism is different and some can eat every thing and never gain a pound. Others everything they eat is stored as fat. >>My daughter who is 19yrs old gains weight without eating barely anything. Is >>there someone out there that knows if this is a petuitary problem?? I feel >>sorry for her cause she is always trying to lose weight and is very active >>physically but, just continues to gain weight. Please help, Thanks, Tim > >Has she been tested for thyroid problems? > Thyroid.......that is what i meant.......not petuitary.....what do i know. > Ya, no, she has not been tested for that i don't believe. I will have to ask > her if she would like to have that done. She has always eaten like a bird > and just continues to gain weight. I was told once that peoples motablism is > different and some can eat every thing and never gain a pound. Others > everything they eat is stored as fat. I used to have the same problem and it's still somewhat of a problem. Google for "Wilson's syndrome" and "Insulin resistance". SignatureOm. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson > Thyroid.......that is what i meant.......not petuitary.....what do i know. > Ya, no, she has not been tested for that i don't believe. The pituitary gland is the master gland that also has thyroid function. Thyroid gland regulates metabolism. I would take her to a doctor and have him check that and other eating disorders. I would caution blaming everything on hormones and the thyroid and ignoring emotional concerns. > Thyroid.......that is what i meant.......not petuitary.....what do i know. > Ya, no, she has not been tested for that i don't believe. I will have to ask [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > > >Has she been tested for thyroid problems? As Robert said, it *could* be pituitary. Could you give us an example of a typical day's meals? There are SO manything reasons this could be happening. It could be what she eats, emotional, hormonal... many things. It's best to start with the obvious and work your way down. Max. I would buy her some iodine supplements to kickstart her metabolism. Then buy her some Proactiv to help with the acne that iodine causes. bob http://www.coolgroups.com/ > As Robert said, it *could* be pituitary. Could you give us an example > of a typical day's meals? There are SO manything reasons this could be > happening. It could be what she eats, emotional, hormonal... many > things. It's best to start with the obvious and work your way down. > > Max. COMMENT: Yeah, well, the most obvious possibility of all, is that she's eating a lot of stuff that she forgets and you don't see, you dodo. Fat people get thin in locked metabolic wards. Breatharians (google it) are mythical. SBH >> As Robert said, it *could* be pituitary. Could you give us an example >> of a typical day's meals? There are SO manything reasons this could be [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Fat people get thin in locked metabolic wards. Breatharians (google it) > are mythical. Well, being a Breatharian is about the only way one could survive on a food budget of less than $1.50/day. : o ) > > As Robert said, it *could* be pituitary. Could you give us an example > > of a typical day's meals? There are SO manything reasons this could be [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > SBH You assume that because she's overweight that she eats too much. How very scientific of you. > You assume that because she's overweight that she eats too much. How > very scientific of you. Actually, it is. For humans, at least. There are obese mice which manage to stay obese during calorie restriction (though even they are smaller), but that's a special circumstance involving a metabolic defect. Mice burn 6/7ths of their energy just staying warm, whereas in humans it's less than half. If you interrupt the special heat-generation mechanism in mice, they can use all those calories to get fat (so long as you don't put them in the cold, which kills them). No such mechanism is known in human adults, however. We keep warm just from intermediate metabolism, and have to generate extra heat (by shivering) only in extreme conditions. So the rodent model of fatness without excess calorie consumption doesn't apply to us. In locked metabolic wards, nobody of normal stature who is mobile stays fat on 1200 kcal a day. SBH > In locked metabolic wards, nobody of normal stature who is mobile stays > fat on 1200 kcal a day. That is absolutely untrue, and I have a wife that is a prime example. She spent a LOT of time at a "locked metabolic ward" on just about 1200 kcal a day and lost no weight at all. Drugs, chemicals, refined foods, improper (low fat) diet... several environmental factors can all contribute to the destruction of the thyroid and/or pituitary glands, which regulate body weight. > > In locked metabolic wards, nobody of normal stature who is mobile stays > > fat on 1200 kcal a day. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > environmental factors can all contribute to the destruction of the > thyroid and/or pituitary glands, which regulate body weight. Calories mean SQUAT! TC > > > In locked metabolic wards, nobody of normal stature who is mobile stays > > > fat on 1200 kcal a day. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > TC Pretty much true, some calories count more than others due to the way the body handles them. :-) But even with a strict low carb diet, they are going to count some if they start reaching the upper limits. SignatureOm. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson > > In locked metabolic wards, nobody of normal stature who is mobile stays > > fat on 1200 kcal a day. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > environmental factors can all contribute to the destruction of the > thyroid and/or pituitary glands, which regulate body weight. Don't worry, this guy is talking out his arse. He needs to do some REAL research! SignatureOm. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson >> In locked metabolic wards, nobody of normal stature who is mobile stays >> fat on 1200 kcal a day. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > environmental factors can all contribute to the destruction of the > thyroid and/or pituitary glands, which regulate body weight. ..then 1) your wife obviously is the first known case of a violation against the 1st law of thermodynamics. 2) your wife burns under 1200 kcal a day. both are not very probable. Some people gain weight on 1000 calories/day, but very few. Your daughter is showing the classic signs of anorexia/bulimia that is so common among teenage girls. You should look for a doctor specialising in eating disorders - they know what tests to run to ensure that she doesn't have a hormone problem. But, 99% of the time, the problem is a mixup of self-image and self-esteem. Being a teenager is rough - I still remember mine! No one can be more important to her than you, her father. She needs emotional support that she can trust, and help to build her own feeling of self-worth amidst the mess of signals she is getting about everything from baby Einstein to sex object. Best of luck. And, hang in there for her. Are you overweight or obese? I'm just wondering because you may not know how much a portion should be. >My daughter who is 19yrs old gains weight without eating barely anything. Is >there someone out there that knows if this is a petuitary problem?? I feel >sorry for her cause she is always trying to lose weight and is very active >physically but, just continues to gain weight. Please help, Thanks, Tim I have been trying to drop 15 pounds for the past 10 years and could not do it, no matter how little I ate. Recently I gained 10 pounds and became desperate. I had been eating one or two eggs for breakfast and recently quit eating eggs entirely. To my great surprise and glee I have already (after only two weeks) lost the 10 pounds I gained plus a couple more. I wonder how much cholesterol I have lost if any. How much does cholesterol weigh? Ora > >My daughter who is 19yrs old gains weight without eating barely anything. Is > >there someone out there that knows if this is a petuitary problem?? I feel [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Ora Why, 10 pounds, of course. -Dumbledore |
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