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Group calls on NIH to remove Harvard professor from fluoride-cancer study

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TC - 08 Aug 2005 19:49 GMT
http://www.phxnews.com/fullstory.php?article=23636

Group calls on NIH to remove Harvard professor from fluoride-cancer
study
Posted by FAN on Wednesday July 27, 2005 at 5:06 pm MST [ Send Story to
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Burlington, VT - July 27, 2005 - The Fluoride Action Network (FAN),
today urged that a Harvard Professor be removed from a research group
studying the association between fluoride and osteosarcoma because his
objectivity and ethics are disputed and he has ties to a company that
profits from fluoride. FAN also urges other steps be taken to ensure
this study meets the highest standards of scientific integrity.

In June, the Environmental Working Group (EWG) charged Chester
Douglass, a professor at Harvard and editor of Colgate¹s oral health
newsletter, with suppressing research linking fluoridation to
osteosarcoma, a rare but frequently fatal form of bone cancer. (1)
Douglass remains central to the ongoing project.

In a letter sent today to Dr. Elias A. Zerhouni, the Director of the
National Institutes of Health (NIH), FAN requests that Douglass be
replaced with a scientist who is independent of the fluoridation
debate, and has no other conflict of interest. (2) FAN also requests
the NIH make the data of the $1.3 million taxpayer-funded study freely
available for full independent review.

EWG recently issued an ethics complaint against Douglass for
misrepresenting his doctoral student's successful dissertation linking
fluoridation to osteosarcoma. (3)

Elise Bassin, Douglass' doctoral student, analyzed data collected from
U.S. hospitals in the early 1990s by a team of scientists led by
Douglass and funded by NIH. In her case-control study, Bassin found
that males exposed to fluoridated water during their "mid-childhood
growth spurt" (ages 6 to 8) had a significantly increased risk of later
developing osteosarcoma. Bassin described the findings as "remarkably
robust." (4)

Bassin's dissertation, completed in May 2001 but unpublished and
unknown prior to FAN obtaining a copy earlier this year, was recently
sent to several expert reviewers by a Wall Street Journal science
writer. The reviewers found it to be of "publishable quality." The head
of oral health at the CDC, and fluoridation supporter, William Maas
said, "She did great shoe-leather epidemiology." (5) According to EWG,
Bassin's work "is the most rigorous study of the link between bone
cancer and fluoride in tap water ever conducted in the United States."
(6)

Prior to the discovery of Bassin's results, the only information
available on Douglass' research was a very brief summary published in
1995 in the Journal of Dental Research where Douglass reported no link
between fluoridation and bone cancer. (7) Despite assurances by
Douglass that a more comprehensive analysis of his data would be
forthcoming, Douglass never published the study.

"It's been 10 years now, and Douglass has yet to publish the findings
of his first study," says Paul Connett, PhD, Executive Director of FAN.
"Now that we know what his data showed, Douglass' failure to disclose
these findings is deeply troubling. It will simply not be possible for
us or the general public to have confidence in any further work he
produces on this matter."

Summarizing Connett says, "With lives at risk and the public's trust
at stake, the NIH cannot afford anything less than to secure scrupulous
scientific integrity on this study. We are asking that NIH do three
things: 1) remove Douglass from the study; 2) demonstrate that none of
the other study members has any other conflict of interest or ties to
the government's fluoridation program, and, 3) make the data of the
study, not just the conclusions, available for independent analysis and
review."

*****

TC
montygram - 08 Aug 2005 21:10 GMT
You can worry about conflicts of interest like this, or you can learn
the basics, so that you won't be fooled by the large number of corrupt
or flawed studies that get so much media attention these days.
Flourine is an electron grabber, a source of oxidative stress.  Look on
a periodic table and you'll see the column it's in.  Chlorine is next
to it, also a potent electron grabber.  On the other side are elements
like lithium and sodium, which have the opposite effect.  They donate
electrons.

As an example, many people today want their teeth to be "super white,"
but they are using bleach products (chlorine-based) and this is very
dangerous.  I saw an oral surgeon on one of the major cable news
channels who was saying that he expects an "epidemic" of oral cancers
over the next few years.  This is the kind of thing you should worry
about, and not bad breath.  That is easy to deal with: just eat plain
yogurt at your first and last meals of the day.  Wash your mouth out
with a little purified water to make sure the acid doesn't hurt the
teeth.  If this doesn't work, you probably have a bigger problem than
bad breath.
TC - 08 Aug 2005 21:35 GMT
> You can worry about conflicts of interest like this, or you can learn
> the basics, so that you won't be fooled by the large number of corrupt
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> teeth.  If this doesn't work, you probably have a bigger problem than
> bad breath.

Has everyone in this group lost their ability to read english?

Who the heck said anything about bad breath?

TC
montygram - 09 Aug 2005 03:30 GMT
I said it was an example - of the general phenomenon.  It is related,
of course, as those who want unnaturally white teeth are usually the
same ones who worry about bad breath.  I'm sure those who are
uninterested will be able to ignore it.
Visual Purple - 09 Aug 2005 01:02 GMT
Thank you for this.
Robert - 09 Aug 2005 08:34 GMT
http://www.phxnews.com/fullstory.php?article=23636

Has Health Canada Committed Contempt of Parliament?

Senate Hearings (Committee on Privileges, Standing Rules and Orders)

Date: Tuesday Feb 29,2000 6:00 pm

Witness: David Dodge, Deputy Minister of Health

Location: Rm 505, Victoria Bldg, 140 Wellington Street

Background

The Senate Committee on Privileges, Standing Rules and Orders is
investigating claims that Health Canada has retaliated against its own
scientists, who previously testified before the Senate and provided
incriminating evidence against the department.

One scientist, Dr. Shiv Chopra, was suspended for 5 days without pay. Other
scientists reported that they were pressured to "sanitize" government
reports and coerced to pass drugs of questionable safety.

The scientists state they were ordered to "tow the line" and serve industry
or they would be sent somewhere they "will never be heard from again." The
scientists are concerned that public safety is at risk.

On Tuesday, Feb. 29, the Senate Committee on Privileges, Standing Rules and
Orders will be questioning David Dodge, Deputy Minister of Health, on these
issues.

Hearings Open to the Public - Everyone Invited

Support Health Canada whistle-blowers, whose efforts to protect the public
have put them at odds with industry pressure to get their product on the
market as quickly as possible.

***

Those concerned about the action of Health Canada can email the Minister of
Health, Hon. Allen Rock, at rocka@parl.

They stated that Health Canada administrators were disregarding scientists'
recommendations to withhold approval for drugs, thus endangering public
safety. When asked why there was pressure to approve drugs so quickly,
Chopra told the reporter "Well, what do you think? Money. For multinational
companies that produce those things."
TC - 09 Aug 2005 14:53 GMT
> http://www.phxnews.com/fullstory.php?article=23636
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> Chopra told the reporter "Well, what do you think? Money. For multinational
> companies that produce those things."

Thanks for re-inforcing my point, Robert. See, we are on the same side.

TC
Robert - 09 Aug 2005 18:23 GMT
> > http://www.phxnews.com/fullstory.php?article=23636
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>
> TC

Fix your own problems and don't apologize for your government.
You are a Canadian troll.
TC - 09 Aug 2005 19:40 GMT
> > > http://www.phxnews.com/fullstory.php?article=23636
> > >
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> Fix your own problems and don't apologize for your government.
> You are a Canadian troll.

We are all citizens of this world. I chose to exercise my right of free
expression and you chose to try to stop me for doing so.

Isn't that typically Canadian of me and typically American of you?

TC
Robert - 09 Aug 2005 20:04 GMT
> > > > http://www.phxnews.com/fullstory.php?article=23636
> > > >
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>
> TC

Let's see 500,000 posts about NIH and 0 about health Canada.
This from a Canadian.
This spells troll.
TC - 10 Aug 2005 15:07 GMT
> > > > > http://www.phxnews.com/fullstory.php?article=23636
> > > > >
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> This from a Canadian.
> This spells troll.

Which is it? 500,000 - 600,000 or  a million. make up your mind or buy
a calculator.

Why is it trolling? I did not post the NIH posts just to get a rise out
of you and the other industry apologists like you and sbharris. I
posted it because it is relevant to our understanding of how research
really works in the US and in the world in general. I posted it because
people with a general interest in science (as in sci.med.nutrition)
need to clearly understand that science can be corrupted and has been
corrupted, at the highest levels, especially ate the NIH and the FDA.

Where I am from is irrelevant.  When you consider that the NIH and the
FDA both have far-reaching influence that goes far beyond the borders
of the US, it becomes fair game for criticism from anyone in the world.
You don't like a non-American criticizing an American institution,
tough sh.t. You are starting to sound a lot like the radical Muslims
who will not tolerate any criticism from non-Muslims, not because of
any intellectual incapacity, but simply because they are not Muslim.
Again, tough sh.t, deal with it.

Now, how about you addressing the issue of corruption at the NIH. You
can stay on topic or go f.ck yourself.

Or keep posting anti-Canada crap. It just keeps my posts about the NIH
in front of those reading this ng for a longer period of time. That's
ok with me. It also makes me look like a genius in comparison. I make
an intelligent observation and you scream and sling mud in a childish
tantrum. Real impressive debating skills you have there buddy.

TC
Visual Purple - 09 Aug 2005 10:03 GMT
This is a very important thread and I'd like to add the following links
to it:

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a39fc499b6a91.htm

http://www.greaterthings.com/Lexicon/F/Fluoride.htm

http://environmentalchemistry.com/yogi/periodic/F.html#Regulatory

Again:  If you can procure it, please, please drink distilled water.

Filtering won't get the F out, distilling does.

VP
 
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