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outsor@citynet.net - 03 Aug 2005 12:35 GMT Only 2 percent remain on low carb diets, another fad has come and gone.
More dieters ditch carb counts By MICHAEL HILL, Associated Press Writer
ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) - More dieters are ditching carb counts and biting into baguettes with gusto these days. Some are eating like French women - who never get fat, according to one best seller. Or they're taking their cues from celebrities like Suzanne Somers.
Some are counting the minutes between meals or checking a food's glycemic index. And old-school calorie counting continues to have its followers.
This week's bankruptcy filing by the late Dr. Robert C. Atkins' old company provide fresh evidence of the low-carb diet's demise, a downward spiral that began early last year. But no single new diet has filled the void.
Observers say the only sure thing - given the boom-and-bust nature of weight-loss trends - is that something will pop up eventually.
"There isn't one single strong contender," said Anne M. Russell, editor-in-chief of Shape magazine. "If you look at what the single largest trend is, it's weight gain."
Chapter 11 filings by Atkins Nutritionals Inc. on Monday came about a year and a half after books like "The Atkins Essentials" rode the best seller charts, bread makers were back on their heels and Burger King introduced a Whopper without a bun.
But Atkins has been in decline since February 2004, said Harry Balzer, a food industry analyst at market researcher NPD Group. Balzer claims Atkins was one of those demanding diets that simply ran its course, going from fad to fade like so many others before it, including the Scarsdale and the cabbage soup diets.
How far and how fast did Atkins fall? By September 2004, surplus low-carb products were being shipped to food banks in Appalachia.
"I'll try that bunless burger once. I might even try it twice," Balzer said. "But boy, that ketchup just doesn't stay on lettuce like it does on bread."
People who watch diet trends say there's a lull right now - what Dr. Christine Gerbstadt of the American Dietetic Association calls a "slump in diet trends." Thus, new strategies are flourishing.
Low-carb might be waning, but no one should write its obituary just yet. About 2 percent of adults remain on a low-carb regimen, according to NPD. And The New York Times best seller list still includes "The South Beach Diet." That diet, which limits high-sugar carbs like white bread, has celebrity sizzle thanks to adherents like President Clinton.
Also on the Times' best seller list is "French Women Don't Get Fat," in which Mireille Guiliano argues that the French are able to eat croissants and chocolate without ballooning because they take time to savor flavors and eat judiciously.
On Amazon, the No. 18 book Tuesday was "The 3-Hour Diet" from Jorge Cruise, who recommends timing meals and snacks to lose weight. Also popular is "volumetrics," which promotes eating filling foods with fewer calories, like fruits and brown rice. Bookstore shelves are loaded with celebrity-endorsed diet plans like "Suzanne Somers' Slim and Sexy Forever."
Put it all together, and the advice can seem like a muddle. Nutritionists and fitness experts still stress a good way to keep weight off is to eat less and exercise more. Many point to recent government dietary guidelines, which emphasize fruits, vegetables and whole grains - and watching calories.
"There'll always be some weird thing about eating four grapes before you go to bed, or drinking a special tea, or buying this little bean from El Salvador," said fitness guru Richard Simmons, who struggled with a series of fad diets as a portly youngster.
"If you watch your portions and you have a good attitude and you work out every day you'll live longer, feel better and look terrific," he said.
Regardless, Simmons agrees it's only a matter of time before a new diet trend takes hold.
"I wouldn't be surprised if we bounce back to another version of low-fat, which we had in the '80s," said Prevention magazine deputy editor Amy O'Connor.
O'Connor also sees a future for diets based on the glycemic index, a rating of how quickly carbohydrates are digested and rush into the bloodstream as sugar.
Balzer notes whole-wheat foods are making gains and trans-fat is a rising concern.
Ruth Kava, director of nutrition for the American Council on Science and Health, figures it might be something like a high-protein diet.
"Somebody will come up with something new," she said. "There's a lot of creativity out there in Diet World.
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Enrico C - 03 Aug 2005 13:37 GMT [...]
> company provide fresh evidence of the low-carb diet's demise, a > downward spiral that began early last year. But no single new diet has > filled the void. > > Observers say the only sure thing - given the boom-and-bust nature of > weight-loss trends - is that something will pop up eventually. Dr Sear's "Zone" is huge, isn't it? My impression is that it's most popular in Italy at least.
just Ed - 03 Aug 2005 15:01 GMT > [...] > > company provide fresh evidence of the low-carb diet's demise, a [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Dr Sear's "Zone" is huge, isn't it? > My impression is that it's most popular in Italy at least. popular in Italy!!! That's the most solid scientific proof of all.
Tell us more of what thy're doing in Italy because that's got to be the best!
Enrico C - 03 Aug 2005 15:43 GMT On 3 Aug 2005 07:01:05 -0700, just Ed wrote in <news:1123077665.083610.235350@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> on sci.med.nutrition :
>> [...] >>> company provide fresh evidence of the low-carb diet's demise, a [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > popular in Italy!!! > That's the most solid scientific proof of all. Of course it's not.
> Tell us more of what thy're doing in Italy because that's > got to be the best! "What they're doing"? Eating salmon, I guess! ;)
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Cubit - 03 Aug 2005 15:44 GMT NPD, The NPD Group seems to be a marketing company. In May they were claiming that 4% were following Atkins specifically, and that 17% had tried some form of low carb.
Among low carbers, many do not follow Atkins exactly. I'm not sure how this 2% number in created, but I suspect that NPD, that is being cited, has a hidden agenda.
> Only 2 percent remain on low carb diets, another fad has come and gone. > > More dieters ditch carb counts > By MICHAEL HILL, Associated Press Writer outsor@citynet.net - 03 Aug 2005 17:34 GMT "NPD, The NPD Group seems to be a marketing company. In May they were claiming that 4% were following Atkins specifically, and that 17% had tried some form of low carb.
Among low carbers, many do not follow Atkins exactly. I'm not sure how this 2% number in created, but I suspect that NPD, that is being cited, has a hidden agenda."
No, they are an independent marketing research group, it is possible atkins used them to get data too when doing their marketing approach.
OmManiPadmeOmelet - 03 Aug 2005 16:23 GMT > Only 2 percent remain on low carb diets, another fad has come and gone. And the percentage of the morbidly obese will continue to increase as a results. ;-)
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"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson
outsor@citynet.net - 03 Aug 2005 17:41 GMT "And the percentage of the morbidly obese will continue to increase as a results. ;-)"
Which only speaks to the need for not relying on radical approaches in nutrition. Low carb worked for 6 months and then was no different then other approaches in outcomes at 1 year, and it had the high rejection level because people got tired of it's limitations on food choices. In the end when all was said and done, it worked for the long run because it caused people to eat less, which is the true basis for any diet.
Max C. - 04 Aug 2005 02:20 GMT > Which only speaks to the need for not relying on radical approaches in > nutrition. Low carb worked for 6 months and then was no different then > other approaches in outcomes at 1 year, and it had the high rejection > level because people got tired of it's limitations on food choices. In > the end when all was said and done, it worked for the long run because > it caused people to eat less, which is the true basis for any diet. Most people give up during the induction phase. Unlike low-fat diets which still allow refined carbs, people trying atkins had to give up not one, but TWO addictive substances. Refined carbs have been shown to have addictive properties. Additionally, many people going on the Atkins Induction phase are addicted to caffeine. Giving up both of these things can be more than the person is willing to bear. It creates mood swings, cramps, depression and serious headaches.
The funny thing is, the same addictions should be dealt with on ANY good diet plan... because ANY good diet should suggest giving up both refined carbs and caffeine.
Max.
NoOption5L@aol.com - 04 Aug 2005 04:39 GMT >Max C. wrote:
> The funny thing is, the same addictions should be dealt with on ANY good > diet plan... because ANY good diet should suggest giving up both refined > carbs and caffeine. Max,
Agreed, except on the latter. A little caffeine via some healthy green or white tea, and premium dark chocolate is A OKAY.
Patrick
Max C. - 05 Aug 2005 11:58 GMT > Max, > > Agreed, except on the latter. A little caffeine via some healthy green > or white tea, and premium dark chocolate is A OKAY. > > Patrick Well, it's not *quite* that black and white. Some people have mistreated their bodies so badly that even the slightest amount of caffeine can cause a sensitivity. My wife happens to be one of them. She's trying to get her health back in order and eat right after years of yoyo dieting and outright food addiction. She stayed away from caffeine for a long time, then one moring had a glass of chocolate milk using a tablespoon of organic chocolate syrup. The caffeine in the chocolate set her off.
I'm sure you're right, generally speaking. I just wanted to point out that there are exceptions.
Visual Purple - 03 Aug 2005 23:43 GMT "Somebody will come up with something new," she said. "There's a lot of creativity out there in Diet World.
American greed-driven creativity, that is.
First the media are flooded with hype about some "new discovery" about why people gain weight or don't, then they are flooded with a new diet scheme that is based on those "newfound principles".
The French diet plan is the funniest one recently. New discoveries have been made as to why French women don't gain weight. They don't gain weight because they know how to scarf down coissants and baguettes at precise intervals. So now American women will do that expecting to come out of the process looking like Bridgette Bardot too.
Right.
m_magoon@yahoo.com - 09 Aug 2005 10:22 GMT I'm no expert on diet or marketing or business, but it seems more likely to me that Atkins went bankrupt because their products tasted crappy, not because of the principles of a low carb diet.
RBR - 12 Aug 2005 23:58 GMT > "Somebody will come up with something new," she said. "There's a lot > of creativity out there in Diet World. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >Right. Actually there's nothing funny about the French diet. The reasons for their not getting fat are quite simple. Its all about portion size and lifestyle. The French aren't food-phobic like North Americans nor do they eat the same quantity of food. Another thing is that they tend to be a lot more active. The portion sizes in North America are larger than the ones in France. Simple enough, huh?
RBR
Eric Bohlman - 13 Aug 2005 00:47 GMT RBR <rogers@home.com> wrote in news:t5aqf1t2sjd134qf165mrj41o3jk2v7dj3@ 4ax.com:
> Actually there's nothing funny about the French diet. The reasons for > their not getting fat are quite simple. Its all about portion size and > lifestyle. The French aren't food-phobic like North Americans nor do > they eat the same quantity of food. Another thing is that they tend to > be a lot more active. The portion sizes in North America are larger > than the ones in France. Simple enough, huh? Too simple to write a diet book and come out with a line of "program foods." Remember that diet books are a form of self-help book, and that the best-selling self-help book of all time was written by L. Ron Hubbard.
But you're quite right. The French are eating "the wrong foods" but they're not pigging out. Americans are paying close attention to whatever food items are currently being demonized and not caring how much of everything else they eat.
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