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wound & scar healing
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Stacy - 29 Jul 2005 05:02 GMT What supp is good as a topical for skin wounds, scratches, sores, etc? I read about one but can't remember which.
IanW - 29 Jul 2005 09:11 GMT > What supp is good as a topical for skin wounds, scratches, sores, etc? I > read about one but can't remember which. I think good old Vit C is good for that, not topical of course, but good to take aswell as any topical stuff you find. Years ago I had a couple of cysts removed from neck and face and took 1-2 grams of Vit C for a couple of weeks afterwards and there was no scarring.
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ironjustice@aol.com - 29 Jul 2005 11:40 GMT Sunflower seed oil .. ?
http://tinyurl.com/6axwp
Acta Cirurgica Brasileira Print ISSN 0102-8650
Acta Cir. Bras. vol.19 no.3 So Paulo May/June 2004 The effects of topical application of sunflower-seed oil on open wound healing in lambs1
The present work showed by morphometrical, clinical and histological assays that sunflower-seed oil improved the granulation tissue formation and epithelial resurfacing of wounds. Therefore, sunflower-seed oil or other vegetable oils containing a high concentration of linoleic acid, can be indicated as a therapeutic alternative for wound healing process by second intention in veterinary
medicine <<
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Mr-Natural-Health - 29 Jul 2005 12:50 GMT > What supp is good as a topical for skin wounds, scratches, sores, etc? I > read about one but can't remember which. Since you are just a low life pretending to be a human being, I am NOT going to tell you.
Ha, ... Hah, Ha! I have a long memory.
Just thought that you might want to know.
OmManiPadmeOmelet - 29 Jul 2005 13:53 GMT > What supp is good as a topical for skin wounds, scratches, sores, etc? I > read about one but can't remember which. The one that generally comes most recommended is vitamin E oil. It can be purchased in bottle form so you don't have to pop any gelcaps.
Even better is Emu oil if you can find it. ;-)
Castor oil (topical only!) is also excellent and you can use some plain old extra virgin olive oil in a pinch.
HTH?
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Cubit - 29 Jul 2005 18:30 GMT Neosporin claims to promote healing, and my subjective experience makes me a believer.
> What supp is good as a topical for skin wounds, scratches, sores, etc? I > read about one but can't remember which. realjob - 29 Jul 2005 19:04 GMT Aloe Vera Juice can be drunk or applied topically. I use Oasis Lifesciences, Hilltop Gardens Aloe Gold from the Ewald plantation (oldest in America) it is cold pressed and concentrated. The polysaccharide fraction most beneficial for healing and repair is 50,000 to 100,000 daltons. Sun burn, scrapes, scratches, kitchen burns etc. I have used it for all of them and it really helps.
> Neosporin claims to promote healing, and my subjective experience makes me > a > believer. > >> What supp is good as a topical for skin wounds, scratches, sores, etc? I >> read about one but can't remember which. montygram - 29 Jul 2005 20:54 GMT Linoleic does speed up wound healing, due to its biochemical activity. However, it will promote nasty-looking scars because of this factor. You can see the evidence at pubmed.com. Do a search for arachidonic keliod, for example. The best thing is to get the arachidonic acid out or your body, but that would take at least 2 years on the right diet. You can use those silicon patches in the meantime to keep nasty scarring to a minimum. I had a nasty keliod on my shoulder that kept growing a little each year or so, but after I stopped eating foods high in polyunsaturated fatty acids, the keliod began to get smaller and also the redness lessened dramatically. This is actually a good "lesson" in the effects of different fatty acids on the body. It's too bad more people don't understand the connections, because if they did, we might be able to compel doctors to wise up, stop being dealers for BigPharma, and start doing their jobs again, which should involved thinking, not just going along with "the program." Recently, I asked my doctor a basic question about the salt (NaCl) molecule and he was totally stumped, for example.
MMu - 01 Aug 2005 08:45 GMT > Linoleic does speed up wound healing, due to its biochemical activity. > However, it will promote nasty-looking scars because of this factor. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > my doctor a basic question about the salt (NaCl) molecule and he was > totally stumped, for example. doctors are not chemists.
OmManiPadmeOmelet - 01 Aug 2005 09:02 GMT > > Linoleic does speed up wound healing, due to its biochemical activity. > > However, it will promote nasty-looking scars because of this factor. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > doctors are not chemists. But they SHOULD have had basic chemistry, as well as Organic and Biochemistry early in their training. :-P
NaCl is pretty damned basic!
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MMu - 01 Aug 2005 13:54 GMT >> > Linoleic does speed up wound healing, due to its biochemical activity. >> > However, it will promote nasty-looking scars because of this factor. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > But they SHOULD have had basic chemistry, as well as Organic and > Biochemistry early in their training. :-P I agree of course, they should.. but unfortunately they forget most of it since its not relevant (or rather, many deem it not relevant) for their practical work and they don't keep up to date to refresh what they learned in chemistry.
> NaCl is pretty damned basic! It depends on the question being asked, not so much on the molecule. "What is the dissociation constant of a NaCl molecule in 500mM saline solution at 4°C?"
Mr-Natural-Health - 30 Jul 2005 17:50 GMT > Neosporin claims to promote healing, > and my subjective experience makes me a > believer. I just love your reply. :)
Natural health is about preventing lifestyle diseases, and little else. http://naturalhealthperspective.com/tutorials/definition.html
Thus, when it comes to treating wounds the standard Western first aid kit comes to my mind. :)
Personally, I perfer just cleaning the wound. And, leaving it exposed to fresh air without any bandaid in order to speed healing.
Cover the wound with a cloth bandaid if it is likely to get dirty or bumped into. Use triple antibotic cream if it becomes score or infected.
For chronic wounds, like shaving, I prefer applying clear aloe vera gel. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstra ct&list_uids=14517429&query_hl=5
Dawid Michalczyk - 30 Jul 2005 12:52 GMT > What supp is good as a topical for skin wounds, scratches, sores, etc? I > read about one but can't remember which. On Discovery or National Geographic channel there was a documentary once about natural remedies. I remember raw honey being exceptionally good at healing wounds that would otherwise not heal. They showed patients in some European hospitals with some large open wounds that looked really bad and did not heal. Once fresh raw honey (large amounts) was applied the wound healed almost miraculously. The before and after photographs were really impressive. I later read about Amazon Indians who relied on raw honey for wound healing too.
My personal experimentation did not give any noticeable results. Perhaps the honey I was using was of poor quality and I was unable to determine whether it was raw or not.
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Dan - 31 Jul 2005 01:13 GMT Arnica and Calendula ointments help for minor skin problems. I have available much more information @ http://debunkbigpharma.blognation.us/blog/Skin
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Stacy - 31 Jul 2005 03:52 GMT Thanks to all for all these suggestions. None of them were the supp I read about which promotes scar healing and skin health. If someone finally lists it, I think I will remember. But I now have a few new ones to look into.
| Arnica and Calendula ointments help for minor skin problems. | I have available much more information @ | http://debunkbigpharma.blognation.us/blog/Skin | | Dan
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