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Stacy - 29 Jul 2005 05:02 GMT
What supp is good as a topical for skin wounds, scratches, sores, etc? I
read about one but can't remember which.
IanW - 29 Jul 2005 09:11 GMT
> What supp is good as a topical for skin wounds, scratches, sores, etc? I
> read about one but can't remember which.

I think good old Vit C is good for that, not topical of course, but good to
take aswell as any topical stuff you find. Years ago I had a couple of cysts
removed from neck and face and took 1-2 grams of Vit C for a couple of weeks
afterwards and there was no scarring.

Ian
ironjustice@aol.com - 29 Jul 2005 11:40 GMT
Sunflower seed oil .. ?

http://tinyurl.com/6axwp

Acta Cirurgica Brasileira
Print ISSN 0102-8650

Acta Cir. Bras. vol.19 no.3 So Paulo May/June 2004
The effects of topical application of sunflower-seed oil on open wound
healing in lambs1

The present work showed by morphometrical, clinical and histological
assays that sunflower-seed oil improved the granulation tissue
formation and epithelial resurfacing of wounds. Therefore,
sunflower-seed oil or other vegetable oils containing a high
concentration of linoleic acid, can be indicated as a therapeutic
alternative for wound healing process by second intention in veterinary

medicine
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Mr-Natural-Health - 29 Jul 2005 12:50 GMT
> What supp is good as a topical for skin wounds, scratches, sores, etc? I
> read about one but can't remember which.

Since you are just a low life pretending to be a human being, I am NOT
going to tell you.

Ha, ... Hah, Ha!  I have a long memory.

Just thought that you might want to know.
OmManiPadmeOmelet - 29 Jul 2005 13:53 GMT
> What supp is good as a topical for skin wounds, scratches, sores, etc? I
> read about one but can't remember which.

The one that generally comes most recommended is vitamin E oil.
It can be purchased in bottle form so you don't have to pop any gelcaps.

Even better is Emu oil if you can find it. ;-)

Castor oil (topical only!) is also excellent and you can use some plain
old extra virgin olive oil in a pinch.

HTH?
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Cubit - 29 Jul 2005 18:30 GMT
Neosporin claims to promote healing, and my subjective experience makes me a
believer.

> What supp is good as a topical for skin wounds, scratches, sores, etc? I
> read about one but can't remember which.
realjob - 29 Jul 2005 19:04 GMT
Aloe Vera Juice can be drunk or applied topically.  I use Oasis
Lifesciences, Hilltop Gardens Aloe Gold from the Ewald plantation (oldest in
America) it is cold pressed and concentrated.  The polysaccharide fraction
most beneficial for healing and repair is 50,000 to 100,000 daltons.  Sun
burn, scrapes, scratches, kitchen burns etc.  I have used it for all of them
and it really helps.

> Neosporin claims to promote healing, and my subjective experience makes me
> a
> believer.
>
>> What supp is good as a topical for skin wounds, scratches, sores, etc? I
>> read about one but can't remember which.
montygram - 29 Jul 2005 20:54 GMT
Linoleic does speed up wound healing, due to its biochemical activity.
However, it will promote nasty-looking scars because of this factor.
You can see the evidence at pubmed.com.  Do a search for arachidonic
keliod, for example.  The best thing is to get the arachidonic acid out
or your body, but that would take at least 2 years on the right diet.
You can use those silicon patches in the meantime to keep nasty
scarring to a minimum.  I had a nasty keliod on my shoulder that kept
growing a little each year or so, but after I stopped eating foods high
in polyunsaturated fatty acids, the keliod began to get smaller and
also the redness lessened dramatically.  This is actually a good
"lesson" in the effects of different fatty acids on the body.  It's too
bad more people don't understand the connections, because if they did,
we might be able to compel doctors to wise up, stop being dealers for
BigPharma, and start doing their jobs again, which should involved
thinking, not just going along with "the program."  Recently, I asked
my doctor a basic question about the salt (NaCl) molecule and he was
totally stumped, for example.
MMu - 01 Aug 2005 08:45 GMT
> Linoleic does speed up wound healing, due to its biochemical activity.
> However, it will promote nasty-looking scars because of this factor.
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> my doctor a basic question about the salt (NaCl) molecule and he was
> totally stumped, for example.

doctors are not chemists.
OmManiPadmeOmelet - 01 Aug 2005 09:02 GMT
> > Linoleic does speed up wound healing, due to its biochemical activity.
> > However, it will promote nasty-looking scars because of this factor.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> doctors are not chemists.

But they SHOULD have had basic chemistry, as well as Organic and
Biochemistry early in their training. :-P

NaCl is pretty damned basic!
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MMu - 01 Aug 2005 13:54 GMT
>> > Linoleic does speed up wound healing, due to its biochemical activity.
>> > However, it will promote nasty-looking scars because of this factor.
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> But they SHOULD have had basic chemistry, as well as Organic and
> Biochemistry early in their training. :-P

I agree of course, they should.. but unfortunately they forget most of it
since its not relevant (or rather, many deem it not relevant) for their
practical work and they don't keep up to date to refresh what they learned
in chemistry.

> NaCl is pretty damned basic!

It depends on the question being asked, not so much on the molecule.
"What is the dissociation constant of a NaCl molecule in 500mM saline
solution at 4°C?"
Mr-Natural-Health - 30 Jul 2005 17:50 GMT
> Neosporin claims to promote healing,
> and my subjective experience makes me a
> believer.

I just love your reply. :)

Natural health is about preventing lifestyle diseases, and little else.
http://naturalhealthperspective.com/tutorials/definition.html

Thus, when it comes to treating wounds the standard Western first aid
kit comes to my mind. :)

Personally, I perfer just cleaning the wound. And, leaving it exposed
to fresh air without any bandaid in order to speed healing.

Cover the wound with a cloth bandaid if it is likely to get dirty or
bumped into.  Use triple antibotic cream if it becomes score or
infected.

For chronic wounds, like shaving, I prefer applying clear aloe vera
gel.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstra
ct&list_uids=14517429&query_hl=5

Dawid Michalczyk - 30 Jul 2005 12:52 GMT
> What supp is good as a topical for skin wounds, scratches, sores, etc? I
> read about one but can't remember which.

On Discovery or National Geographic channel there was a documentary once
 about natural remedies. I remember raw honey being exceptionally good
at healing wounds that would otherwise not heal. They showed patients in
some European hospitals with some large open wounds that looked really
bad and did not heal. Once fresh raw honey (large amounts) was applied
the wound healed almost miraculously. The before and after photographs
were really impressive. I later read about Amazon Indians who relied on
raw honey for wound healing too.

My personal experimentation did not give any noticeable results. Perhaps
the honey I was using was of poor quality and I was unable to determine
whether it was raw or not.

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Dan - 31 Jul 2005 01:13 GMT
Arnica and Calendula ointments help for minor skin problems.
I have available much more information @
http://debunkbigpharma.blognation.us/blog/Skin

Dan
Stacy - 31 Jul 2005 03:52 GMT
Thanks to all for all these suggestions. None of them were the supp I read
about which promotes scar healing and skin health. If someone finally lists
it, I think I will remember. But I now have a few new ones to look into.

| Arnica and Calendula ointments help for minor skin problems.
| I have available much more information @
| http://debunkbigpharma.blognation.us/blog/Skin
|
| Dan
 
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