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Protein real star of low-carb diets

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TC - 27 Jul 2005 14:31 GMT
http://www.latimes.com/features/health/nutrition/la-he-lean25jul25,1,1367345.sto
ry?coll=la-health-nutrition-news


Protein real star of low-carb diets
Dieters report feeling full and satisfied after protein-packed meals.

By Sally Squires, Special to The Times

To reach a healthier weight - with fewer hunger pangs - consider
eating more lean protein.

A new study points to protein's power to satisfy hunger better than
either fat or carbohydrates. The findings also could help explain the
recent clamor for low-carbohydrate diets, which are high in protein.

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This is "telling us that one of the reasons why the low-carbohydrate
diets seemed to work is not because of low carbohydrates, but because
of high protein," said Arne Astrup, head of human nutrition at the
Royal Veterinary and Agricultural University in Copenhagen.

"Look at Atkins, South Beach and the Zone," said Astrup, author of an
editorial accompanying the study in this month's American Journal of
Clinical Nutrition. These diets provide "30 to 40% of calories from
protein," he noted.

Thirty percent of daily calories as protein - about twice what most
people eat and the upper limit recommended by the Institute of Medicine
- is the amount that University of Washington researchers gave to 19
participants in the study. All were about 10 pounds overweight and had
maintained their weight for at least three months. Prospective
participants interested in dieting were eliminated from the study.

Food was prepared and supplied by the research team. Participants lived
at home but met with researchers twice a week to be weighed and receive
more food.

During the first two weeks of the trial, participants maintained their
weight by eating 15% of calories as protein, 35% as fat and 50% from
carbohydrates. They were instructed to eat all the food supplied or to
return any remaining to allow the researchers to measure how many
calories were eaten.

In weeks three and four of the trial, participants also maintained
their weight but shifted to a diet containing twice the amount of
protein and about half the fat. Remaining calories came from healthy
carbohydrates, including plenty of fruit, vegetables and whole grains.

As before, participants were instructed to eat all the food or return
it for measurement. "They complain about it because they feel very full
on the high-protein diet," said David Scott Weigle, professor of
medicine at the University of Washington and the study's lead author.

For the last 12 weeks of the study, participants received 15% more food
each week and the freedom to eat as much of it as they wanted. To avoid
nutritional boredom, participants could also eat one meal of their
choosing weekly and drink as many as three alcoholic beverages a week.

Left to their own devices, participants spontaneously cut their intake
by 441 calories daily. They lost an average of 11 pounds, while
reporting feeling full and satisfied.

Hormones regulating appetite stayed at levels that normally boost
hunger, Weigle said, suggesting that high-protein diets somehow affect
the brain. If the brain perceives that lower levels of
appetite-stimulating hormones are normal, he said, "then it would
continue to turn down hunger."

Even so, experts caution that eating 30% of daily calories as protein
may not be safe for everyone, because it could overtax kidneys in those
who already have kidney problems, or diabetes or glucose intolerance.

Here's how researchers boosted protein in the study. (The recipes are
available on http://www.leanplateclub.com .)

·  Add nonfat dairy products. Drink skim milk with meals and use it
instead of water to make oatmeal or "creamy" soups, such as tomato.
Snack on nonfat yogurt. Use shredded nonfat or low-fat cheese for
pizza, tacos and for grilled cheese sandwiches on whole wheat bread.
Add nonfat dry milk to mashed potatoes and casseroles.

·  Eat more lentils and beans. Not only are they high in protein, but
they pack complex carbohydrates that don't increase blood sugar and
contain plenty of fiber. Tofu, soy milk and soy-based meat substitutes
are also protein rich. Or add a little soy powder to orange juice to
boost protein.

·  Crack an egg. Egg whites are pure protein with no fat or
cholesterol. Hard-boil and fill with guacamole, salsa or bean dip, or
chop and sprinkle on salads. Egg substitutes contain no cholesterol and
less fat than regular eggs. Or use one whole egg with extra egg whites
to make fluffy, high protein omelets or frittatas.

·  Eat more lean cuts of meat, poultry and fish. Skinless turkey and
chicken breasts were frequent mainstays as was beef lasagna made with
lean ground beef and ground turkey.

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TC
Stacy - 27 Jul 2005 15:33 GMT
http://www.latimes.com/features/health/nutrition/la-he-lean25jul25,1,1367345.sto
ry?coll=la-health-nutrition-news


What about vegetarians??

·  Eat more lean cuts of meat, poultry and fish. Skinless turkey and
chicken breasts were frequent mainstays as was beef lasagna made with
lean ground beef and ground turkey.

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TC
TC - 27 Jul 2005 15:44 GMT
> http://www.latimes.com/features/health/nutrition/la-he-lean25jul25,1,1367345.sto
ry?coll=la-health-nutrition-news

>
> What about vegetarians??

Vegetarianism is not a healthy diet or lifestyle. Start eating meat.

TC
Stacy - 27 Jul 2005 15:48 GMT
That's like telling a Christian to start worshiping Budda!
People don't need to eat meat to get protein.

http://www.latimes.com/features/health/nutrition/la-he-lean25jul25,1,1367345.sto
ry?coll=la-health-nutrition-news


| > What about vegetarians??
|
| Vegetarianism is not a healthy diet or lifestyle. Start eating meat.
|
| TC
TC - 27 Jul 2005 16:04 GMT
No, but they need to eat meat to be healthy - physically, mentally and
spiritually.

TC

> That's like telling a Christian to start worshiping Budda!
> People don't need to eat meat to get protein.
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> |
> | TC
Stacy - 28 Jul 2005 03:51 GMT
I don't agree.
Vegetarians live longer, have less disease and better quality of life. AND
there's less suffering for the animals.

| No, but they need to eat meat to be healthy - physically, mentally and
| spiritually.
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| > That's like telling a Christian to start worshiping Budda!
| > People don't need to eat meat to get protein.

http://www.latimes.com/features/health/nutrition/la-he-lean25jul25,1,1367345.sto
ry?coll=la-health-nutrition-news


| > | > What about vegetarians??
| > |
| > | Vegetarianism is not a healthy diet or lifestyle. Start eating meat.
| > |
| > | TC
NoOption5L@aol.com - 28 Jul 2005 03:13 GMT
http://www.latimes.com/features/health/nutrition/la-he-lean25jul25,1,1367345.sto
ry?coll=la-health-nutrition-news


> > What about vegetarians??

> Vegetarianism is not a healthy diet or lifestyle.

Wrong.  Either you're mistaken or you're lying.  Vegetarianism has been
common in Hindu and Buddhist countries for thousands of years.  (Note
the word thousands.)

> Start eating meat.

Do you work for Adkins, or is it the Beef Industry?

Low-carb is yet another stupid diet plan in long line of stupid diet
plans... can't wait to see what the next one is.    

Patrick
Visual Purple - 15 Aug 2005 09:06 GMT
> http://www.latimes.com/features/health/nutrition/la-he-lean25jul25,1,1367345.sto
ry?coll=la-health-nutrition-news

>
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>
> Patrick

Patrick,

This group is comprised mainly of people with vested interests who are
doing their damnedest to thwart the free flow of ideas and discredit
one another.

Vociferous objections to Natural Hygiene, as espoused by Marilyn and
Harvey Diamond have been voiced.  This tells me that Natural Hygiene is
right on target, that they know it and will go to some lengths to try
to discredit it.

Just for this reason alone, Natural Hygiene is worth a look-see.

VP
Laurie - 15 Aug 2005 02:42 GMT
> Vegetarianism is not a healthy diet or lifestyle. Start eating meat.
   Could you then explain just why the most-popular "degenerative diseases"
are associated with meat-eating?  And just why reducing the amount of "meat"
eaten reduces the incidence of these "diseases"?
   http://www.ecologos.org/ttdd.html and pick the "degenerative disease" of
your choice.
   Clearly, you were not born into a vegan household, did significant
research, and then came to the logical conclusion to eat dead animals; you
were conditioned to do so by similarly-ignorant parents and media
advertising.

   Laurie
George Cherry - 15 Aug 2005 03:43 GMT
>> Vegetarianism is not a healthy diet or lifestyle. Start eating meat.
>    Could you then explain just why the most-popular "degenerative
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> were conditioned to do so by similarly-ignorant parents and media
> advertising.

From
http://www.harpercollins.com/global_scripts/product_catalog/book_xml.asp?isbn=00
60765313


Eating steak twice a week makes your "RealAge"
    seven years older.
Smoking a pack of cigarettes a day makes your "RealAge"
    eight years older.
Having a low HDL cholesterol of 29 makes your "RealAge"
    four years older.
Having the stress of avoiding a nagging task makes your "RealAge"
    eight years older.

So, eating steak twice a week is almost as bad
as smoking a pack of cigarettes a day.

Now TC run off and find the evil affiliations of the two
doctors who wrote the referenced book.

GWC
Just Cocky - 15 Aug 2005 04:51 GMT
>    Clearly, you were not born into a vegan household, did significant
>research, and then came to the logical conclusion to eat dead animals; you
>were conditioned to do so by similarly-ignorant parents and media
>advertising.

This appears to contradict your thesis that apes are not natural meat
eaters:

http://www.pupress.princeton.edu/chapters/s6549.html
Max C. - 15 Aug 2005 13:09 GMT
> > Vegetarianism is not a healthy diet or lifestyle. Start eating meat.
>     Could you then explain just why the most-popular "degenerative diseases"
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> were conditioned to do so by similarly-ignorant parents and media
> advertising.

I love vegan hubris.  It's so stereotypical.  "YOU don't think the way I
think, so YOU'RE ignorant... and so are your parents and everyone else
that doesnt eat the way I eat."  Classic.

To everyone else, would you believe the China Study so often referenced
by vegans actually disproves a vegan diet?  I've crunched the numbers
myself, and it says practically the opposite of T. Colin Campbell's
recommendations.

Max.
calypso47@voyager.net - 27 Jul 2005 17:07 GMT
"http://www.latimes.com/features/health/nutrition/la-he-lean25jul25,1,136734="

Here is perhaps the most intresting finding of this study:

"This is "telling us that one of the reasons why the low-carbohydrate
diets seemed to work is not because of low carbohydrates, but because of
high protein," said Arne Astrup, head of human nutrition at the Royal
Veterinary and Agricultural University in Copenhagen."
TC - 27 Jul 2005 17:45 GMT
> "http://www.latimes.com/features/health/nutrition/la-he-lean25jul25,1,136734="
>
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> high protein," said Arne Astrup, head of human nutrition at the Royal
> Veterinary and Agricultural University in Copenhagen."

http://www.nutripharma.com/who_biographies.html

Arne Astrup is a close colleague of the infamous industry sellout David
B Allison. Allison was recently severely criticized for his sloppy work
on research papers and has been on the industry payroll his entire
career.

Astrup and Allison both have interests in of all things, diet
treatments and soy proteins:

http://www.nutripharma.com/what.html

*quote*
Nutri Pharma's patent protected products target the following fast
growing areas:

Weight management & meal replacement products
Functional foods & Dietary Supplements for cholesterol reduction
Soy proteins & ingredients
Nutri Pharma has developed new process technologies which help
incorporate the soy compontents into various products, and which have
secured new commercial agreements in 2003 and 2004.
*quote*

So he sells soy products. I can see how he would want to make protein
out to be the reason for the success of low-carb diets. But why would
he suggest that carbs are not the culprit in obesity?

http://www.nutripharma.com/who_partners.html

Allied Bakeries owns part of the company:

Allied Bakeries
Allied Bakeries (www.alliedbakeries.co.uk) is market leader in the UK
bread market, with approximately 1/3 share and brands which include
Kingsmill, Allinson and Sunblest. Owned by the publicly traded
Associated British Foods (www.abf.co.uk), it is part of one of Europe`s
largest food groups. ABF has sales of approximately £5 billion, over
35,000 employees, and brands such as Silver Spoon,Twinings, Ryvita,
Mazola and Ovaltine.

And Mills DA does also:

Mills DA
Mills is a Norwegian food company, part of the Agra group. The
company's headquarter is in Oslo. Mills had a turnover of NOK 1250
million in 2003. The company is a leading player in the Norwegian
retail market as well as the growing food service and bakery & industry
business.

And lookee here:

http://www.skepticreport.com/health/atkins.htm

Astrup attacks the Atkins diet and here is his declaration of conflicts
of interest:

*quote*
Arne Astrup is medical advisor for Weight Watchers, Denmark. The
Department of Human Nutrition receives/has received research funding
from over 50 Danish and international food companies. Otherwise, we
declare no conflict of interest.
*unquote*

I love that last line: "Otherwise, we declare no conflict of interest."

Hilarious. And this guy tries to pass himself off as a real scientist.
He is nothing more than salesman trying to sell his products and trying
to add value to his personal investments.

TC
calypso47@voyager.net - 27 Jul 2005 20:50 GMT
"> "This is "telling us that one of the reasons why the low-carbohydrate
> diets seemed to work is not because of low carbohydrates, but because of
> high protein," said Arne Astrup, head of human nutrition at the Royal
> Veterinary and Agricultural University in Copenhagen."

http://www.nutripharma.com/who_biographies.html

Arne Astrup is a close colleague of the infamous industry sellout David
B Allison. Allison was recently severely criticized for his sloppy work
on research papers and has been on the industry payroll his entire
career."

Fine, it was your article you used to start the thread.  Only more proof
you don't read past headlines.  The bit above was in the first part of
the article.  In any case your "detective" work is irrelevant, what
flaws are in the science of the article you introduced?  Hoe it's
results not in support of the bit above?  The author was not shown to
have problems, guilt by association, fine science that?
Krane - 27 Jul 2005 20:58 GMT
TC.... I've read quite a number of your posts, and they all seem to be
the same ignorant garbage.  You expect people to listen to you, yet you
dismiss anything anyone else says (unless they agree with you)

You are NOT the weight-losing miracle you say you are (mr. man-boobs).
You say you're never sick?  Bullshit.  That is a LIE and you know it.
You think you're all-knowing when it comes to nutrition?  Bullshit.
For you, the truth is the last book you read.  Reading a book and then
regurgitating it in these forums is not 'expertise'.

ah.... that felt good.

Krane

PS - I know vegans/vegetarians who are a lot healthier than you are.
(And I know how healthy you are, Mr. BS)
TC - 27 Jul 2005 22:00 GMT
> TC.... I've read quite a number of your posts, and they all seem to be
> the same ignorant garbage.  You expect people to listen to you, yet you
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> PS - I know vegans/vegetarians who are a lot healthier than you are.
> (And I know how healthy you are, Mr. BS)

Struck a nerve have I? Better take your b vitamins.

Interesting how you can tell my weight, my health status, my level of
honesty, and my research methods over the internet.

You must be a magical genie with great mental powers. I bow to your
genius.

TC
 
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