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Medical Forum / General / Nutrition / August 2005RE: Kumar's question about hunger/cravings.
First of all, you might want to read Gilbert Ling's "Life at the cell and below-cell level" (regarding notions of "pumps"). Second, all kinds of things can generate cravings, such as low level inflammation. When I began taking calcium citrate and stomach acid/pepsin supplements (for severe osteoporosis), for example, within about 2 or 3 weeks, I began to get cravings that I never had before in life. My bones got better very quickly. Women's food cravins while pregnant are similar, but have nothing to do with salt. Third, I think most Americans who eat huge amounts (I've known plenty of them) because they say that nothing seems to satisfy their hunger, are dealing with chronic inflammation, due to a diet that produces a great deal of oxidative stress (lots of highly unsaturated fatty acids and not enough antioxidant protection seem to be the key to this). montygram, Thanks. I am a diabetic & eat more due to excess craving of taking snacks, food etc. Probably, this excess craving may be due to dibetic medicines or due to insulin resistance. I am unable to control this even sugar level is very high. But I tried by discontinuning & reducing table salt with food. To my surprise, my excess craving for snacks, excess food etc. become almost nil after that. Then I again started salt, craving was also similarily returned. Can you tell how it had happened? Althought aternative ancient system, following link tells something related to it:- "What to Eat Ayurveda recognizes six tastes - sweet, sour, salty, pungent, bitter and astringent and six main qualities (see below). All foods have one or more of these tastes and Ayurveda says that you should take foods including all six tastes at each main meal. If any taste is missed out it tends to cause a craving for it. http://www.maharishi.co.uk/DietaryGuidelines.htm " Whether, salty, sweat & sour tastes are related to each other? It tells that there are different sets of food type which are related to each other. Kumar: If you are "type II," you should try a little nutritional yeast with each meal. Biochemist Ray Peat has mentioned that his father was told in the 1930s (by his doctor) that he had diabetes and should go on a "brewer's yeast diet," which cleared the problem up in a month or so. However, you must get the free radical damage down, and this means no more food with more than trace amounts of unsaturated fatty acids. Butter is okay, coconut oil is better, but make sure they are fresh. Dark chocolate, berries, and white tea would be good to eat as well. Cheese is fine, as long as it's not homogenized, so stay away from "low fat," "no fat" stuff. Breyer's Natural Vanilla ice cream is good too. About a teaspoon of nutritional yeast with each meal should be good. Let me know how things turn out, but do not "cheat" and eat the wrong things. If you need "meat" boiled eggs and boiled shellfish are not just okay, but good, while fish and chicken are problematic. White fish with little fat content is okay, but remember to boil it. Do not cook while exposed to air. You can boil food that needs it, then warm it up in a pan with herbs, spices, butter, sherry, whatever. montygram, Thanks. Brewer's yeast in rich in chromium, which is helpful in IR condition. But, how to control cravings, that is very important? Sometimes I thing that 'genetic prediposition' to diabetes may just cause excess craving & rest can be from takeing more & unplanned food? Which type of craving--salt, sugar, sour...is to be understood? > When I began taking calcium citrate and stomach > acid/pepsin supplements (for severe osteoporosis), ... ... and a broken digestive system, both related to excessive protein consumption. What were you trying to do?? "Build muscles" by eating excessive protein? "High protein diets are believed to cause kidney stone formation and bone loss, ..." PMID: 14633136 "High dietary protein intakes are known to increase urinary calcium excretion and, if maintained, will result in sustained hypercalciuria. ... Therefore, it is commonly concluded that the source of the excess urinary calcium is increased bone resorption." PMID: 12936953 "Dietary risk factors for osteoporosis include low calcium intake, low or high protein intake, low vitamin intake, smoking, and high intake of alcohol, coffee, carbonated beverage and salt." PMID: 12731296 "Observational epidemiologic studies suggested a negative effect of a high protein intake on bone density..." PMID: 9725101 "The unique interrelationship between excess dietary protein, calcium metabolism, and osteoporosis with its associated ridge resorption has been reviewed. Recommendations for the prevention and management of osteoporosis have been discussed with concern for the calciuretic effect of a high protein diet customarily consumed in American society." PMID: 3316605 "Osteoporosis was induced through pair feedings of a high protein, low calcium diet." PMID: 3464755 "... plus the fact that Ca administration fails to reverse osteoporotic bone loss, has led some investigators to conclude that Ca nutrition is an insignificant factor in the etiology of osteoporosis. " PMID: 7250388 "Hence, increased dietary protein acutely causes a negative calcium balance in osteoporotic patients and may contribute to bone loss in this disease." PMID: 7451829 > Third, I think most Americans who eat huge amounts (I've known plenty > of them) because they say that nothing seems to satisfy their hunger, > are dealing with chronic inflammation, ... Actually, they are simultaneously overeating the wrong "foods", and starving of meaningful nutrients. If they ate our biologically-correct diet, the "hunger" would disappear along with the excess weight. Laurie Laurie, Good information. Do you know how this Ca & protien relationship works, physiologically? Whether digestion & so better absorption of Ca & protien which can be dependendent on Gastric acid level can have some link with your mentionings? > Laurie, > > Good information. Do you know how this Ca & protien relationship works, > physiologically? Whether digestion & so better absorption of Ca & > protien which can be dependendent on Gastric acid level can have some > link with your mentionings? I don't understand what you are saying, here. If it is a response to a previous posting (your mentionings?), it is common practice to quote the relevant parts of the original, so the writer might understand what you are referring to, as I am doing here. Laurie |
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