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Fruits and Diabetes

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Kamalakar Pasupuleti - 14 Jul 2005 01:49 GMT
I find my readings on glucometer increase when I consume even small
quantities of fruit like pears , banana and apple . Fructose in moderate
amounts is not supposed to increase the blood sugar levels .

I have also seen increased levels after consuming no-sugar / sugar free
cookies , ice cream and also when I use products containing splenda .

Is there a specific remedy for correcting this situation ? I am type 2
diabetic for the last 3 yrs and take Metformin .

Anyone like me in a similar situation ? Any help Pl.

Kam
Eric Bohlman - 14 Jul 2005 05:43 GMT
> I find my readings on glucometer increase when I consume even small
> quantities of fruit like pears , banana and apple . Fructose in
> moderate amounts is not supposed to increase the blood sugar levels .

Not all sugar in fruits is fructose.  The particular fruits you named
have rather high sugar contents (just about every diabetic finds that
bananas spike their BG, for example).  Consider berries instead; most
people find they have much less effect.

> I have also seen increased levels after consuming no-sugar / sugar
> free cookies , ice cream and also when I use products containing
> splenda .

Most "sugar-free" foods are sweetened with sugar alcohols, which can
raise blood glucose, although usually more slowly than sugars.  Splenda
by itself should have no effect; it's not even absorbed into the
bloodstream.  However, if you're talking about baked goods, ice cream,
etc. sweetened with Splenda, they're very likely to contain other
sources of rapidly-digesting carbohydrate (e.g. sugar-free cookies still
contain plenty of flour) which will raise your BG.
Kamalakar Pasupuleti - 14 Jul 2005 11:36 GMT
> Not all sugar in fruits is fructose.  The particular fruits you named
> have rather high sugar contents (just about every diabetic finds that
> bananas spike their BG, for example).  Consider berries instead; most
> people find they have much less effect.

   Mnay thanks for your kind info I was unaware of .

Regards,
Kam
Dr. Dickie - 14 Jul 2005 12:01 GMT
> > Not all sugar in fruits is fructose.  The particular fruits you named
> > have rather high sugar contents (just about every diabetic finds that
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> Regards,
> Kam

I have to second what Eric said. I (a type 2 as well) find that bananas are
a no no; however, I love strawberries and have found no problem with them at
all.
I currently do not take medication, but took about two years (with meter in
hand) testing one and two hours post-pradial to work out what was okay and
what was not.
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TC - 14 Jul 2005 14:58 GMT
> I find my readings on glucometer increase when I consume even small
> quantities of fruit like pears , banana and apple . Fructose in moderate
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>> I find my readings on glucometer increase when I consume even small
>> quantities of fruit like pears , banana and apple . Fructose in moderate
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>
> TC
calypso47@voyager.net - 14 Jul 2005 19:16 GMT
Fruits have glucose and fructose and can easily raise blood glucose.  
Fructose is not measured by a glucose meter but it's levels in the blood
has all of the same dangers as glucose for a diabetic.  Items marketed as
"sugar free" doesn't mean it does not have sugars, what it means under the
rules of advertising is it does not have common table sugar.  It can have
all kinds of added carbohydrates which also increase blood glucose.  When
considering what to eat and how much it is imporant to read the label and
see how many carbohydrates it contains, carbohydrates raise blood glucose
because most forms of them are turned into glucose in the blood.  The way
to do this is to do a test 2 hours after starting eating and note what you
ate in what amount and see what level it created.  Then reduce either some
of the carbohydrate containing foods or eliminate them from your diet.  I
assume from your name you are from s. asia where large amounts of rice and
bread and other high carbhydrate containing foods make up much of the
diet.  For a diabetic these foods are the worst, they creat the same
effect as eating sugar.  Try to reduce them and increase protein
containing foods and vegetables, excluding potatoes and other tubers which
have the same effect often as rice and bread.  Avoid high fat milk
products like ghee and whole milk, yogurt is a good milk food for you in
moderation using the testing method above.  Avoid foods fried in oil and
ghee and use canola oil in moderation.  Fish and poultry are good protein
sources when baked or boiled or steamed.  In diabetes there are no easy
answers, serious lifestyle changes are required and this includes
increasing physical activity as much as possible and losing weight; there
are no substitutes which give better results because the drugs just delay
the severe problems if lifestyle changes are not also made.  Good luck.

"I find my readings on glucometer increase when I consume even small
quantities of fruit like pears , banana and apple . Fructose in moderate
amounts is not supposed to increase the blood sugar levels .

I have also seen increased levels after consuming no-sugar / sugar free
cookies , ice cream and also when I use products containing splenda .

Is there a specific remedy for correcting this situation ? I am type 2
diabetic for the last 3 yrs and take Metformin .

Anyone like me in a similar situation ? Any help Pl."
voyagernet - 14 Jul 2005 21:00 GMT
Fruits have glucose and fructose and can easily raise blood glucose.  
Fructose is not measured by a glucose meter but it's levels in the blood
has all of the same dangers as glucose for a diabetic.  Items marketed as
"sugar free" doesn't mean it does not have sugars, what it means under the
rules of advertising is it does not have common table sugar.  It can have
all kinds of added carbohydrates which also increase blood glucose.  When
considering what to eat and how much it is imporant to read the label and
see how many carbohydrates it contains, carbohydrates raise blood glucose
because most forms of them are turned into glucose in the blood.  The way
to do this is to do a test 2 hours after starting eating and note what you
ate in what amount and see what level it created.  Then reduce either some
of the carbohydrate containing foods or eliminate them from your diet.  I
assume from your name you are from s. asia where large amounts of rice and
bread and other high carbhydrate containing foods make up much of the
diet.  For a diabetic these foods are the worst, they creat the same
effect as eating sugar.  Try to reduce them and increase protein
containing foods and vegetables, excluding potatoes and other tubers which
have the same effect often as rice and bread.  Avoid high fat milk
products like ghee and whole milk, yogurt is a good milk food for you in
moderation using the testing method above.  Avoid foods fried in oil and
ghee and use canola oil in moderation.  Fish and poultry are good protein
sources when baked or boiled or steamed.  In diabetes there are no easy
answers, serious lifestyle changes are required and this includes
increasing physical activity as much as possible and losing weight; there
are no substitutes which give better results because the drugs just delay
the severe problems if lifestyle changes are not also made.  Good luck.

"I find my readings on glucometer increase when I consume even small
quantities of fruit like pears , banana and apple . Fructose in moderate
amounts is not supposed to increase the blood sugar levels .

I have also seen increased levels after consuming no-sugar / sugar free
cookies , ice cream and also when I use products containing splenda .

Is there a specific remedy for correcting this situation ? I am type 2
diabetic for the last 3 yrs and take Metformin .

Anyone like me in a similar situation ? Any help Pl."
calypso47@voyager.net - 14 Jul 2005 22:29 GMT
" Excellent advise , I am a vegeterian and except eggs I donot take meat ,
poultry and sea food . What can I do for protien . I do take Soy products
and low fat cheese . Is that OK . Pl. advise ."

Eggs are fine, some low fat cheeses add additional carbohydrates to
replace fat, note labels carefully. As I answer most of your question in
another post, I will not be redundant.
 
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