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Medical Forum / General / Nutrition / July 2005milk & disease
Rich wrote: > "Rich" wrote in message > news:kSQAe.6663$rF5.2707@tornado.socal.rr.com... > > > > "George Lagergren" wrote in message > > news:WCQAe.21677$eM6.15559@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net... > >> Topic: cow's milk & disease > >> > >> If one uses a search engine to key in these words: milk & disease or > >> (cow's milk) & disease, one gets some interesting hits for articles on > >> cow's milk and the possible relationship to various diseases. > > > > So what? > > By the way, George, "cow's" milk is incorrect. Except for the miniscule > minority of milk drinkers who have their own family cow, nobody drinks milk > from a singular cow. You should be referring to "cows'" milk. > > cow's . . . cows' Get it? Just trying to help. > > --Rich And technically, what shows up on the shelf is really no longer actually "milk", but more the processed and denatured remnants of what used to be milk. Real milk comes from a cow and goes directly to the table and has a shelf life measured in days. The crap at the store has been pasteurized, homogenized, separated, re-combined, denatured and has had additives added, and has a shelf-life of up to 5 weeks. It sits in warehouses, in shipment and on the shelf for weeks before it is consumed. George, you should specify real milk or denatured milk, and tell us which is the culprit in all of these diseases. TC Most hate warm milk though and refrigereation is human intervention again. Let's face it. It is still garbage for human digestion, poor nutrient absoption and seems to need all the artificial processes and ingredients added to it to make it salable to the ignorant majority. > Rich wrote: > > "Rich" [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > TC > Most hate warm milk though and refrigereation is human intervention again. Yes, how many cows' milk drinkers would still drink cows' milk if left at room temperature for several days? But most folks could still drink bottled water if left at room temperature for several days. > Let's face it. It is still garbage for human digestion, poor nutrient > absoption and seems to need all the artificial processes and ingredients > added to it to make it salable to the ignorant majority. But how can the pro-cows' milk drinkers be convinced that cows' milk may be bad for the human body? How does one convince a sugar addict that too much sugar is bad for their human body? You cannot. Their brains are screwed up from all the casein (rhymes with insane) > But how can the pro-cows' milk drinkers be convinced that cows' > milk may be bad for the human body? How does one convince a sugar addict > that too much sugar is bad for their human body? >> Most hate warm milk though and refrigereation is human intervention again. > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >milk may be bad for the human body? How does one convince a sugar addict >that too much sugar is bad for their human body? How does one convince the idiot George that just because he has problems with dairy, not everyone does? -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "I believe The Battle of the Network Stars should be fought with guns." -- Steve Martin > >> Most hate warm milk though and refrigereation is human intervention again. > > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > How does one convince the idiot George that just because he has > problems with dairy, not everyone does? George doesn't know he has problems with dairy; he gave up dairy because: "That cow's milk requires refrigeration was the real reason why I finally decided to give up drinking cow's milk. I have a friend who gave up drinking cow's milk in his early 20s because of the bother of the cold storage requirement for cow's milk." Apparently, he has never tried drinking it since, and consequently has no idea whether his problems would return if he did, whether their cessation was coincidental, or whether it was due to some other change in his lifestyle. Cathy > -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net > These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct. > "I believe The Battle of the Network Stars should be fought with guns." > -- Steve Martin > George doesn't know he has problems with dairy; he gave up dairy > because: > "That cow's milk requires refrigeration was the real reason why I > finally decided to give up drinking cow's milk. Right, but my twice yearly strep throats disappeared completely after stopping the drinking of cows' milk. Also, the lung congestion disappeared. > Apparently, he has never tried drinking it since, and consequently has > no idea whether his problems would return if he did, whether their > cessation was coincidental, or whether it was due to some other change > in his lifestyle. I made no other change n my diet. After reading the book: "Milk: The Deadly Poison", I had no desire to ever re-start consuming dairy or drinking cows' milk. Plus my twice-yearly strep throats for 30 years with the very heavy lung congestion was pure hell. I now greatly enjoy drinking lots of (bottled) pure water at room temperature. Drinking cows' milk stored at room temperature is NOT possible. > Plus my twice-yearly strep throats for 30 years with > the very heavy lung congestion was pure hell. Who did you catch those strep throats from? Vashti My daughter also gets twice yearly strep throats. BUT 1) She is lactose intolerant - runs in the family. I had a grandfather who was so violently lactose intolerant that he had rickets because he couldn't get enough calcium as a child. and 2) She lives on an island in the South China Sea, where it is not easy to get ANY dairy products, except at Pizza Hut - which she doesn't like. >> Plus my twice-yearly strep throats for 30 years with >>the very heavy lung congestion was pure hell. > > Who did you catch those strep throats from? > > Vashti  Signature"...in addition to being foreign territory the past is, as history, a hall of mirrors that reflect the needs of souls observing from the present" Glen Cook > My daughter also gets twice yearly strep throats. > > BUT > 1) She is lactose intolerant - runs in the family. I had a grandfather > who was so violently lactose intolerant that he had rickets because he > couldn't get enough calcium as a child. Rickets is not caused by calcium deficiency. It's caused by vitamin D deficiency. > and > 2) She lives on an island in the South China Sea, where it is not easy to > get ANY dairy products, except at Pizza Hut - which she doesn't like. So of course her strep throat is not caused by milk. Only George gets strep throat from milk. Strange that. Signature--Rich Recommended websites: http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles http://www.acahf.org.au http://www.quackwatch.org/ http://www.skeptic.com/ http://www.csicop.org/ > > My daughter also gets twice yearly strep throats. > > BUT > > 1) She is lactose intolerant - runs in the family. I had a grandfather > > who was so violently lactose intolerant that he had rickets because he > > couldn't get enough calcium as a child. "Rich" <joshew@hawaii.rr.com> replied: > Rickets is not caused by calcium deficiency. It's caused by vitamin D > deficiency. > > > 2) She lives on an island in the South China Sea, where it is not easy to > > get ANY dairy products, except at Pizza Hut - which she doesn't like. > So of course her strep throat is not caused by milk. Only George gets strep > throat from milk. Strange that. It may be strange. But at least I am now wise enough to stay away from dairy (& cows' milk) products. Too bad I was not this wise 40 years ago. > Plus my twice-yearly strep throats for 30 years with > the very heavy lung congestion was pure hell. "Vashti" <vashti.nl@gmail.com> replied: > Who did you catch those strep throats from? As I have mentioned here before, I caught those strep throats from my drinking of cows' milk. Cows' milk is a mucus creating food item. Mucus creating food items causes germs to get a "hold" in the human body. Thus cows' milk drinkers can create an internal environment where the ear infection germ or the strep throat germ can "stay" in the human body. Once I stopped my drinking of cows' milk, no more strep throats for me. You are one of the most ignorent twits I have seen in a ling time I guess you went to sckool in an area where theu didn't teacj science, or Logic, or... George Lagergren wrote: >> Plus my twice-yearly strep throats for 30 years with >>the very heavy lung congestion was pure hell. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Once I stopped my drinking of cows' milk, no more strep throats > for me. Signature"...in addition to being foreign territory the past is, as history, a hall of mirrors that reflect the needs of souls observing from the present" Glen Cook > George Lagergren <gel44@earthlink.net> wrote: > But how can the pro-cows' milk drinkers be convinced that cows' >milk may be bad for the human body? How does one convince a sugar addict >that too much sugar is bad for their human body? "David Wright" <wright@l1000.prodigy.net> replied: > How does one convince George that just because he has > problems with dairy, not everyone does? Not everyone but maybe 1/4; or 1/3; or 1/2 of the population (???) has problems with dairy or cows' milk. > > George Lagergren <gel44@earthlink.net> wrote: > > But how can the pro-cows' milk drinkers be convinced that cows' [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Not everyone but maybe 1/4; or 1/3; or 1/2 of the population (???) > has problems with dairy or cows' milk. Oh, excellent guesswork George. Very convincing. Did this unknown proportion of the population also give up milk because "That cow's milk requires refrigeration was the real reason why I finally decided to give up drinking cow's milk. I have a friend who gave up drinking cow's milk in his early 20s because of the bother of the cold storage requirement for cow's milk."? Cathy > "That cow's milk requires refrigeration was the real reason why I > finally decided to give up drinking cow's milk. > > I have a friend who gave up drinking cow's milk in his > early 20s because of the bother of the cold storage requirement for cow's milk."? btw, what is wrong with giving up consuming a particular food item, especially when that food item is bulky and heavy AND that bulky, heavy food item also requires cold storage? plus after giving up a particular food item, one solves three health problems: strep throat; lung congestion; common colds. does a gallon of bottled, pure water weigh less or more than a gallon of bottled cows' milk? if people had to purchase meat items, say in 50 pounds cases, how many people would drag meat purchases home? > > "That cow's milk requires refrigeration was the real reason why I > > finally decided to give up drinking cow's milk. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > especially when that food item is bulky and heavy AND that bulky, heavy > food item also requires cold storage? George, if your fridge is so small you had to give up milk, fine. Strange, but fine. Your deciding that milk is the cause of all your health problems and extrapolating that to the entire population without evidence, however is more than strange, it's bizarre. > plus after giving up a particular food item, one solves three > health problems: strep throat; lung congestion; common colds. > > does a gallon of bottled, pure water weigh less or more than a > gallon of bottled cows' milk? Why? > if people had to purchase meat items, say in 50 pounds cases, how > many people would drag meat purchases home? Is there a rule at your local shop that you have to buy milk in bulk? What on earth are you trying to say? >> > "That cow's milk requires refrigeration was the real reason why I >> > finally decided to give up drinking cow's milk. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >extrapolating that to the entire population without evidence, however >is more than strange, it's bizarre. Even beyond that, I'd note that while you *can* drink bottled water at room temperature, it's nicer chilled, and a gallon of water takes up just as much refrigerator space as a gallon of milk. -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "I believe The Battle of the Network Stars should be fought with guns." -- Steve Martin > if people had to purchase meat items, say in 50 pounds > cases, how many people would drag meat purchases home? I don't eat meat... notice I don't attribute my lack of flu and goodness knows what else to not eating meat and don't generalise my own experiences to the entire world or fabricate causation from mere correlation. Vashti >> George Lagergren <gel44@earthlink.net> wrote: >> But how can the pro-cows' milk drinkers be convinced that cows' [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Not everyone but maybe 1/4; or 1/3; or 1/2 of the population (???) >has problems with dairy or cows' milk. It's so much fun watching you make stuff up, George. You don't have the slightest idea what the actual number is, and it would have to be qualified by specifying what population you're talking about. -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "I believe The Battle of the Network Stars should be fought with guns." -- Steve Martin Yeah "ignorant majority".... What did your mother feed you when you were a baby? Pure water? No wonder you got ___ for brains! clear pure brains.... nothing there. Why I can see through one of pizza girl's ears clear through to the other side! | Most hate warm milk though and refrigereation is human intervention again. | [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] | > | > TC Hey! Two posts on the same day without changing your nickname! Improvement noted! > Yeah "ignorant majority".... > [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > | > > | > TC |
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