Look up Optimum Whey on the Internet.  You can order
it from websites and it is a good brand.  You have a choice
of flavors -- I get plain and make shakes with a a bit of
peanut butter and fresh or frozen fruit.  I think you can
buy it on the net for about $25 or $30 for 5 pounds.  Cheaper
than in most health food stores.  If you just want to try it
out, buy a small amount from a local health food store. It
has a long, long shelf life.

What's wrong with eating meat?
And eggs?

LMR's are only useful if you don't have time for meals.

And don't forget to lift weights! ;-)

"Vegetarian Hindus have many times more heart disease than non-vegetarian
Muslims from the same areas in India."

Oh dear, here we go again.  The last time you rolled out this set of
"facts" you were asked to provide a web source by which to confirm it, it
was not provided and one might conclude it can not be done this or any
other time.  This is an example of the lifestyle cult in action, this one
centered on various speculations about nutrition which can not be
supported scientifically but exists soley on emotional cheerleading among
it's adherents..

To the below we were provided a list of urls speaking about the indian
paradox.  This is the observation that a diet tradition having 70 percent
or more in carbs had one of the lowest metabolic disorder risk levels, but
which started to change around 15 years or so to the world's highest risk
level wwhile continuing the high carb diet with other things added and
other lifestyle factors.  For each of them I did a search for "muslim" or
"muslum" and none was found.  Look at the below assertions and see how the
urls can then support them, proof is still missing, big surprise.  This
tactic was the same response as before, still falls flat on it's face:

"> "Vegetarian Hindus have many times more heart disease than
non-vegetarian

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"Man you are a dolt. If I run into the article that makes the comparison
between vegetarian Hindus and non-vegetarian Muslims I will post it."

Good, and until then your track record allows no one to accept this
assertion on it's face.  Even if you find such an article, it will show
that all indians eat most of their calories as carbs, the muslims adding a
littleittle meat sometimes, meat is expensive and india is a very poor
country.

"I think I sufficiently showed that Indian, where most of the population
is vegetarian Hindu, has a massive problem with heart disease, among
the Hindu specifically."

Muddled logic and not responsive to the request.  You were to show us the
proof of your assertion, you did not, again.  As the articles confirm, the
indian paradox is due to recent changes in diet and lifestyle which have
produced higher risk levels, while the previous very high carb diet had
one of the lowest; that is the paradox as to why this should be.  Indeed,
you have shown much about your knowledge and use of logic, but nary a bit
about the topic and the assertion made.

"If you fail to see that, then i suggest that you take off your
rose-coloured vegan-activist glasses and come back to the rel world for
one brief moment, just long enough to see that you are wrong about
vegetarian diet and heart disease."
I'm not a vegetarian, not that it matters as this bit of personal attack
is irrelevant as to what you did or didn't fail to support about your
assertion.

When I searched for the best one to supplement my vegetarian diet and work
out program and compared ingredients, etc., the one I
decided on was designerwhey. They have a website too, designerwhey.com. I
always get the chocolate flavored. It tastes really good too.

Rachel

dan_paul182@hotmail.com ha scritto:

pay attention to
1) your diet (it must be balanced)
2) your rest
3) your training.

If you're a beginner you don't need any other kind of "help" to gain muscles

"That is true in India but if you look at the studies of Western
vegetarians vegetarian diets are actually quite efficient in preventing
heart disease. The heart disease risk is at least 25% lower in Western
vegetarians compared to meat eaters. "

It was lower in the traditional indian diet too.  What we see in these
recent studies is the result of what has happened in the last 15 years or
so when greater amounts of fats, more calories and less physical activity
started the current situation.  In areas where the traditional diet of 70
percent carbs, little fat, and no obesity, is still used the risk factors
are among the lowest in the world, as is the case with the entire complex
of e. asian dietary traditions which have followed the same pattern of
change.  For indians speciffically, there is a genetic trend toward the
metabolic syndrom when they over consume and become obsese, in fact the
body mass index for them has been lowered to 23 for normal from 25.