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Medical Forum / General / Nutrition / July 2005How is pizza fatning?
I don't understand how a normal oven or pan fried pizza is fatning. It's basically like a sandwhich. It's got dough and water for the base, then meat, and vegetables. What is the fatning part of it? > I don't understand how a normal oven or pan fried pizza is fatning. > It's basically like a sandwhich. It's got dough and water for the base, > then meat, and vegetables. What is the fatning part of it? COMMENT: The oil and cheese. Commercial pizzas drip with oil. Put one hot on a napkin. > > I don't understand how a normal oven or pan fried pizza is fatning. > > It's basically like a sandwhich. It's got dough and water for the base, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > The oil and cheese. Commercial pizzas drip with oil. Put one hot on a > napkin. Oil is not the fattening part. All the flour/starch in the crust is. Don't eat the crust. Just the topping. ;-)  SignatureOm. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson What about home-made pizza's > > > I don't understand how a normal oven or pan fried pizza is fatning. > > > It's basically like a sandwhich. It's got dough and water for the base, [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Don't eat the crust. Just the topping. ;-) COMMENT: http://www.calorie-count.com/calories/item/54295.html Less than half the calories are from carbs, so your comment about this being the fattening part is BS. Calories are fattening no matter from where they come. A Pizza Hut pepperoni pizza is 35% fat calories, 20% protein calories, and 45% carb calories. Because of the relatively high fat and protein content, commercial take-out pizza is calorically very dense: more than 2.5 kcal/g. This is the REAL thing which makes it such a fattening food. You can easily eat 4 slices before you think about it, and get 1800 kcal. Other kinds of pizza from the same source can be looked at here: http://www.calorie-count.com/calories/manufacturer/54.html SBH > > > > I don't understand how a normal oven or pan fried pizza is fatning. > > > > It's basically like a sandwhich. It's got dough and water for the base, [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > SBH Not all calories are created equal... Carb calories count more than fat and protien calories. Has to do with the way they are processed. Cheers! SignatureOm. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson > Not all calories are created equal...> > Carb calories count more than fat and protien calories. > Has to do with the way they are processed. How so? Carb calories = 4 calories per gram Protein calories = 4 calories per gram Fat calories = 9 calories per gram The way carbs are processed/digested depends largely on what kind they are. But it has nothing to do with 'counting more'. Proteins and fats generally take longer to digest, but they dont 'count less'. A calorie is a unit of energy and nothing more. joanne > > Not all calories are created equal...> > > Carb calories count more than fat and protien calories. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > joanne The body lives primarily on Glucose. It takes calories to turn any "food" into that energy source. For the body to convert proteins into glucose takes a longer pathway, more calories and more effort in order for the body to use it as fuel. That is why, if you eat nothing but protein for an extended period of time, you can eventually starve to death. I'd suggest you research "rabbit starvation". Cheers! SignatureOm. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson >For the body to convert proteins into glucose takes a longer pathway, more calories and more effort in order for the body to use it as fuel. That is why, if you eat nothing but protein for an extended period of time, you can eventually starve to death. << COMMENT: No, you won't starve to death, calorie-wise. But if the rabbits are jackrabbits or other hares with little body fat, if you eat nothing but them, they are so lean that you'll get sick as hell from essential fatty acid deficiency (plus deficiency of some other B vitamins). Montygram's ignorant rants notwithstanding. Add a little fish to your rabbit or caribou and things go much better. As any Eskimo of the 18th century could not doubt have told you, if you'd been listening. SBH > > > I don't understand how a normal oven or pan fried pizza is fatning. > > > It's basically like a sandwhich. It's got dough and water for the base, [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Don't eat the crust. Just the topping. ;-) Yes ..and then if you peel the cheese out of the topping you get much less fat. I am not! Wheat crust is high starch carbs. many calories Tomato sauce is high sugar carbs, many calories The meats are high fat, many calories The olives are high in oil, many calories The cheese is mostly fat, very high calories The veggies are cooked and of no nutritional value The food combining makes it very hard to digest and results in digestive upset and bloating Not a good food at all. Consider as junk food. > I don't understand how a normal oven or pan fried pizza is fatning. > It's basically like a sandwhich. It's got dough and water for the base, > then meat, and vegetables. What is the fatning part of it? I've already posted recent reports about how toxic highly unsaturated oils are when heated up (and many are even if you don't heat them up). I eat huge amounts of cheese, yogurt, butter, coconut, and ice cream (Breyer's, because it doesn't have carrageenan in it), but I'm 5'9" tall and about 120 pounds (40 yr. old male). All my friends and relative are overweight to some degree. None of them take my advice to avoid highly unsaturated fat sources and eat antioxdiant-rich foods like berries and dark chocolate with each meal. Eating pizza is just a variation on the theme of the "corn fed" farmer's daughter. > I've already posted recent reports about how toxic highly unsaturated > oils are when heated up (and many are even if you don't heat them up). [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > like berries and dark chocolate with each meal. Eating pizza is just a > variation on the theme of the "corn fed" farmer's daughter. What is your view on the amount and type of unsaturated fat found in clean, raw milk from grass-fed cows? Since when are all cooked veggies of no nutritional value? > I am not! > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > It's basically like a sandwhich. It's got dough and water for the base, > > then meat, and vegetables. What is the fatning part of it? > Since when are all cooked veggies of no nutritional value? Since Pizza bimbo says it's true and keeps repeating it, hoping people will believe the myth is fact. Follow his postings if you need some humor but nothing even close to truth about nutrition. We have quite a few quacks on this board and you will find them quickly, i.e. banmilk, ironjustice, two blatant ding dongs. There are others. -DF > > Since when are all cooked veggies of no nutritional value? > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > -DF Ironjustice and banmilk hit my killfiles long ago, and I'm pretty tolerant. I'm surprised that not more have done the same! SignatureOm. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson > Ironjustice and banmilk hit my killfiles long ago, and I'm pretty > tolerant. I'm surprised that not more have done the same! I only killfile infantile trolls. This pair along with TC's "there is a crooked PhD behind every study" are actually serious in their beliefs, or so it seems. I actually find their cacophony at times so ludicrous that it's funny. -DF > I don't understand how a normal oven or pan fried pizza is fatning. > It's basically like a sandwhich. It's got dough and water for the base, > then meat, and vegetables. What is the fatning part of it? The dough is made of processed wheat flour... what is not burned as energy goes to fat.... the cheese is almost pure fat...what is not burned for energy goes to create fat. do 2 hours on a tread mill every day and you eat a lot of pizza not get fat.... or skip the pizza. and eat salads and meat and fruits and you can skip the treadmill if you work much at all/ Phil Scott > do 2 hours on a tread mill every day and you eat a lot of > pizza not get fat.... or skip the pizza. and eat salads and > meat and fruits and you can skip the treadmill if you work > much at all/ Don't try to suggest they are mutually exclusive. If you want to be healthy you had best exercise AND eat right. It's a misconception that if you do lots of exercise(burning calories) you can then eat a pile of sh.t food and burn it all off. -DF > I don't understand how a normal oven or pan fried pizza is fatning. > It's basically like a sandwhich. It's got dough and water for the base, > then meat, and vegetables. What is the fatning part of it? It's not necessarily fattening. Depends on what you put on it and how much of it you eat. Some of the meat toppings such as pepperoni are loaded with fat and calories. Some argue that the cheese is fattening. It is often drizzled with olive oil. If you get a thin crust, whole wheat pizza with vegetable toppings and some cheese and eat only one slice, then it's not fattening. But if you're like a lot of people, you get the extra large kind with extra everything and eat until you're stuffed. Now that's fattening! On 8 Jul 2005 18:42:26 -0700, amsdcj@hotmail.com wrote in <news:1120873345.995702.20630@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> on sci.med.nutrition : > I don't understand how a normal oven or pan fried pizza is fatning. > It's basically like a sandwhich. It's got dough and water for the base, > then meat, and vegetables. What is the fatning part of it? Quantities are fattening, not foods. SignatureEnrico C >I don't understand how a normal oven or pan fried pizza is fatning. > It's basically like a sandwhich. It's got dough and water for the base, > then meat, and vegetables. What is the fatning part of it? The calories. Jeff When I was obese, I was surprised to find that eating an extra large pizza had no effect on my weight. However, a few bowls of regular sugary ice cream had quick results. Of course, I was still under the illusion that short term weight changes can be informative. The bottom line is calories. > I don't understand how a normal oven or pan fried pizza is fatning. > It's basically like a sandwhich. It's got dough and water for the base, > then meat, and vegetables. What is the fatning part of it? |
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