Juhana Harju schreef:
> :: Does anyone know how much vitamin D there is in cod liver? I can find
> :: data for cod liver *oil*, but not for the liver itself. I have a tin
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> It would have an excess of vitamin A (retinol).
Thank you! Hmm, that's about 2x the vit. A my Dutch database says it has
(the liver is in there, it just doesn't say anything about vit. D).
Oh, and I see it also has vit. E, which the 'Eetmeter' also doesn't
mention. I've bookmarked that site, it looks really good.
But now I have another question: how much vit. A is too much?
Berna

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Juhana Harju - 08 Jul 2005 06:19 GMT
:: Juhana Harju schreef:
::: Berna Bleeker wrote:
::::: Does anyone know how much vitamin D there is in cod liver? I can
::::: find data for cod liver *oil*, but not for the liver itself. I
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:: But now I have another question: how much vit. A is too much?
The optimal of retinol intake seems to be between 500 to 1000 micrograms a
day (1500-3000 IU) a day. Take in to account that you get it from other food
sources as well. Greater amount of retinol is associated with reduced bone
mineral density and fractures in the long term. (Melhus H et al., Excessive
dietary intake of vitamin A is associated with reduced bone mineral density
and increased risk of hip fracture. Ann Intern Med 1998;129:770-778.)
http://www.annals.org/content/vol129/issue10/images/large/3TT6.jpeg
"Adverse effects may occur at a level of retinol intake that is only about
twice the current recommendation for adult females." (Crandall C. Vitamin A
intake and osteoporosis: a clinical review. J Womens Health (Larchmt). 2004
Oct;13(8):939-53.)

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Berna Bleeker - 08 Jul 2005 07:56 GMT
Juhana Harju schreef:
> :: But now I have another question: how much vit. A is too much?
>
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> intake and osteoporosis: a clinical review. J Womens Health (Larchmt). 2004
> Oct;13(8):939-53.)
Hm. I've been getting quite a lot then already. But it's mostly because
I've eaten chicken liver a few times; maybe if I cut that out, I'd be
able to eat cod liver once every 2 weeks or so. Looks like I have to eat
less chicken liver in any case. That's a pity, because I really like
that stuff. :-(
Berna

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TC - 08 Jul 2005 15:45 GMT
> Juhana Harju schreef:
> > :: But now I have another question: how much vit. A is too much?
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There is little or no adverse effect from consuming large amounts of
retinol from real food sources. The problem is in consuming too much
overly refined supplements.
The Inuits used to consume vast amounts of these vitamins in seal oil
and they were extremely healthy.
TC
Berna Bleeker - 08 Jul 2005 17:57 GMT
TC schreef:
>>Juhana Harju schreef:
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> retinol from real food sources. The problem is in consuming too much
> overly refined supplements.
Why would that make a difference? I'd like to think you are right, and
in fact I am trying to get as much of my vitamins &c. as I can from food
instead of supplements, hence my original question about cod liver; but
isn't a molecule of retinol a molecule of retinol, whatever the source?
I do hope you're right, because as I said I really like chicken liver! I
think I am going to eat the ones I have in the fridge tonight, even
though it's only 6 days ago I ate it last. I'm going to have to study
this a bit more I think, to decide what I'm going to do long-term; but I
don't think one extra dose of chicken liver is going to hurt me. It's
not like it is polar bear liver! ;-)
Berna

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