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coca cola
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bob@coolgroups.com - 06 Jul 2005 20:06 GMT Could someone tell me what ingredients are in Coca cola? I read the label, and it said it contains natural flavors. What type of plants do these natural flavors come from? Do they come from the cola tree?
Also, I was reading the page at http://www.meridianinstitute.com/echerb/Files/1cola.html
It says that
"The original Coca-Cola contained cola leaf extracts (a source of cocaine prohibited in soft drinks in the U.S. after 1904.)" Is this right? I know the coca tree has cocaine, so I think they might have gotten cola confused with coca.
Bob http://www.coolgroups.com/zoomer/
TC - 06 Jul 2005 20:20 GMT > Could someone tell me what ingredients are in Coca cola? I read the > label, and it said it contains natural flavors. What type of plants do [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Bob > http://www.coolgroups.com/zoomer/ Used to be from coca leaves, now it's from coca roots which contain only minute amounts of cocaine. And the Kola nut. Hence the name Coca-Cola.
TC
outrider@despammed.com - 06 Jul 2005 20:44 GMT Canadian Coca Cola kitchen lore circa 1950:
--use Coke to clean stubborn stains off your enamel sink and to keep your kitchen sink drain unplugged.
Zee
Ralf - 07 Jul 2005 08:04 GMT >Canadian Coca Cola kitchen lore circa 1950: > >--use Coke to clean stubborn stains off your enamel sink and to keep >your kitchen sink drain unplugged. Works fine against rust too. pH = 2,7, or more acid than vinegar and 100x more acid as lemons. hence rust and stains dissolve (as do your teeth).
Ralf
bob@coolgroups.com - 07 Jul 2005 20:54 GMT Is the kola nut from the cola tree?
TC - 07 Jul 2005 20:54 GMT b...@coolgroups.com wrote:
> Is the kola nut from the cola tree? It is from the Kola tree and contains something similar to caffeine.
TC
bob@coolgroups.com - 08 Jul 2005 23:07 GMT Is there a difference between the Kola tree and the Cola tree?
> b...@coolgroups.com wrote: > > Is the kola nut from the cola tree? > > It is from the Kola tree and contains something similar to caffeine. > > TC bob@coolgroups.com - 07 Jul 2005 20:54 GMT So, it does still contain minute amounts of cocaine?
Dr Tomato - 08 Jul 2005 07:52 GMT > So, it does still contain minute amounts of cocaine? High potency homeopathic cocaine...
T.
TC - 08 Jul 2005 14:58 GMT > So, it does still contain minute amounts of cocaine? It could. Why not? Of course Coca-Cola will say no.
TC
Bob (this one) - 08 Jul 2005 15:45 GMT >>So, it does still contain minute amounts of cocaine? > > It could. Why not? Of course Coca-Cola will say no. NO. It doesn't. And any remotely competent lab could find it easily enough no matter what anybody says or doesn't say.
They don't use coca leaves in the formulation any more. Haven't for a long, long time. Be real hard to import as much sheer tonnage of leaves as they'd need given the daily production.
Pastorio
TC - 08 Jul 2005 15:53 GMT > >>So, it does still contain minute amounts of cocaine? > > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Pastorio According to this guy, Coca-Cola imports up to eight tons of coca leaves each year:
http://www.newstarget.com/003228.html
Wouldn't surprise me if it were true.
TC
Bob (this one) - 10 Jul 2005 05:19 GMT >>>>So, it does still contain minute amounts of cocaine? >>> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Wouldn't surprise me if it were true. <LOL>
I really trust the "facts" in a story the very headline of which is "Satire: the unauthorized history of Coca-Cola."
Zowie, huh?
Pastorio
TC - 11 Jul 2005 14:44 GMT > >>>>So, it does still contain minute amounts of cocaine? > >>> [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Pastorio I was wondering about that too. But most of what they speak of, I already knew to be fact. For satire, they sure are bang on with the facts that I know to be true.
TC
Bob (this one) - 11 Jul 2005 21:35 GMT >>>>>>So, it does still contain minute amounts of cocaine? >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > already knew to be fact. For satire, they sure are bang on with the > facts that I know to be true. Funny thing about that. So much of that piece was snotty stuff, snide comment. Much of the rest was conjectural. I didn't find much news that I felt confident about. YMMV
Pastorio
TC - 11 Jul 2005 22:22 GMT > >>>>>>So, it does still contain minute amounts of cocaine? > >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > Pastorio I have read a number of books and other numerous pieces on the history of coke and coca-cola (the company) and what you appear to label as conjectural appears to me to be historical facts. The article is accurate on the points related to the history of the company and the product. If you feel otherwise, please educate us as to what "conjectures" were inaccurate.
And yes it snotty snide coment, based on accurate history and observations.
TC
Bob (this one) - 12 Jul 2005 01:53 GMT >>>>>>>>So, it does still contain minute amounts of cocaine? >>>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > And yes it snotty snide coment, based on accurate history and > observations. Give it a rest. No one argues with the history of the company. It's all that bullshit "chemistry" and "biology" that's a bit too far out to buy. If Coke were such a destroyer of teeth and bodies as the doomsayers say, it would either be put back to its medicine state where the syrup was commonly found in drugstores (as it was when I was a kid) or it would be taken off all the shelves of every store.
Frankly, it's not worth going through a multi-part, purple-prosefest to isolate the obviously absurd parts. It's a garbled piece, alternately dealing with historical fact then raging and ranting about deleterious effects that may or may not actually be the case. He quotes a whole lot of people, virtually all "alternative" types, most of whom take shots at Coke. Fine, for a polemic. Just not much science in there.
Pastorio
Doug Freese - 12 Jul 2005 11:33 GMT > Frankly, it's not worth going through a multi-part, purple-prosefest > to isolate the obviously absurd parts. It's a garbled piece, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > of whom take shots at Coke. Fine, for a polemic. Just not much science > in there. Why do you even bother to banter with him. He spends his days and nights looking for articles that stress his views. Sad to say, and as we have all noted, very little science and all opinion. When one does show him a science paper that disputes any of his views, he discards them as Corporate shills on the take. When one thinks like that, how can they ever be wrong?
Understand, he is right and the world is wrong.
-DF
TC - 12 Jul 2005 14:31 GMT > > Frankly, it's not worth going through a multi-part, purple-prosefest > > to isolate the obviously absurd parts. It's a garbled piece, [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > -DF You guys are jokes, the both of you. You insist that I am wrong but can't be bothered to actually show anything to support it. Continually.
Put up or shut the f**k up, a.sholes.
TC
bob@coolgroups.com - 11 Jul 2005 21:54 GMT What facts did it validate?
> > >>>>So, it does still contain minute amounts of cocaine? > > >>> [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > TC TC - 11 Jul 2005 22:14 GMT > What facts did it validate? It repeated accurate and known historical facts about Coca-Cola, both the company and the drink. It did not validate the facts as much as the facts as presented validated the article to some extent, IMHO.
If you are challenging the accuracy of the points presented in the article, please go ahead and tell us exactly which points you are challenging and why. Please, inform us poor plebes.
TC
Dr Tomato - 08 Jul 2005 08:03 GMT >Could someone tell me what ingredients are in Coca cola? I read the >label, and it said it contains natural flavors. What type of plants do >these natural flavors come from? Do they come from the cola tree? According to Disinfotainment Today:
THE COCA-COLA RECIPE 1 oz. citrate caffeine 1 oz. vanilla 2½ oz. flavoring * 4 oz. fluid extract of coca 3 oz. citric acid 1 qt. lime juice 30 lbs. sugar 2½ gal. water caramel * orange, lemon, nutmeg, cinnamon, coriander, neroli oils, alcohol, and crack
So, it's a kind of mocha, caramel, curry milkshake without the milk.
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