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bob@coolgroups.com - 06 Jul 2005 20:06 GMT
Could someone tell me what ingredients are in Coca cola?  I read the
label, and it said it contains natural flavors.  What type of plants do
these natural flavors come from?  Do they come from the cola tree?

Also, I was reading the page at
http://www.meridianinstitute.com/echerb/Files/1cola.html

It says that

"The original Coca-Cola contained cola leaf extracts (a source of
cocaine prohibited in soft drinks in the U.S. after 1904.)"  Is this
right?  I know the coca tree has cocaine, so I think they might have
gotten cola confused with coca.

Bob
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TC - 06 Jul 2005 20:20 GMT
> Could someone tell me what ingredients are in Coca cola?  I read the
> label, and it said it contains natural flavors.  What type of plants do
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> Bob
> http://www.coolgroups.com/zoom­er/

Used to be from coca leaves, now it's from coca roots which contain
only minute amounts of cocaine. And the Kola nut. Hence the name
Coca-Cola.

TC
outrider@despammed.com - 06 Jul 2005 20:44 GMT
Canadian Coca Cola kitchen lore circa 1950:

--use Coke to clean stubborn stains off your enamel sink and to keep
your kitchen sink drain unplugged.  

Zee
Ralf - 07 Jul 2005 08:04 GMT
>Canadian Coca Cola kitchen lore circa 1950:
>
>--use Coke to clean stubborn stains off your enamel sink and to keep
>your kitchen sink drain unplugged.  

Works fine against rust too. pH = 2,7, or more acid than vinegar and
100x more acid as lemons. hence rust and stains dissolve (as do your
teeth).

Ralf
bob@coolgroups.com - 07 Jul 2005 20:54 GMT
Is the kola nut from the cola tree?
TC - 07 Jul 2005 20:54 GMT
b...@coolgroups.com wrote:
> Is the kola nut from the cola tree?

It is from the Kola tree and contains something similar to caffeine.

TC
bob@coolgroups.com - 08 Jul 2005 23:07 GMT
Is there a difference between the Kola tree and the Cola tree?

> b...@coolgroups.com wrote:
> > Is the kola nut from the cola tree?
>
> It is from the Kola tree and contains something similar to caffeine.
>
> TC
bob@coolgroups.com - 07 Jul 2005 20:54 GMT
So, it does still contain minute amounts of cocaine?
Dr Tomato - 08 Jul 2005 07:52 GMT
> So, it does still contain minute amounts of cocaine?

High potency homeopathic cocaine...

T.
TC - 08 Jul 2005 14:58 GMT
> So, it does still contain minute amounts of cocaine?

It could. Why not? Of course Coca-Cola will say no.

TC
Bob (this one) - 08 Jul 2005 15:45 GMT
>>So, it does still contain minute amounts of cocaine?
>
> It could. Why not? Of course Coca-Cola will say no.

NO. It doesn't. And any remotely competent lab could find it easily
enough no matter what anybody says or doesn't say.

They don't use coca leaves in the formulation any more. Haven't for a
long, long time. Be real hard to import as much sheer tonnage of leaves
as they'd need given the daily production.

Pastorio
TC - 08 Jul 2005 15:53 GMT
> >>So, it does still contain minute amounts of cocaine?
> >
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>
> Pastorio

According to this guy, Coca-Cola imports up to eight tons of coca
leaves each year:

http://www.newstarget.com/003228.html

Wouldn't surprise me if it were true.

TC
Bob (this one) - 10 Jul 2005 05:19 GMT
>>>>So, it does still contain minute amounts of cocaine?
>>>
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>
> Wouldn't surprise me if it were true.

<LOL>

I really trust the "facts" in a story the very headline of which is
"Satire: the unauthorized history of Coca-Cola."

Zowie, huh?

Pastorio
TC - 11 Jul 2005 14:44 GMT
> >>>>So, it does still contain minute amounts of cocaine?
> >>>
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>
> Pastorio

I was wondering about that too. But most of what they speak of, I
already knew to be fact. For satire, they sure are bang on with the
facts that I know to be true.

TC
Bob (this one) - 11 Jul 2005 21:35 GMT
>>>>>>So, it does still contain minute amounts of cocaine?
>>>>>
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> already knew to be fact. For satire, they sure are bang on with the
> facts that I know to be true.

Funny thing about that. So much of that piece was snotty stuff, snide
comment. Much of the rest was conjectural. I didn't find much news that
I felt confident about. YMMV

Pastorio
TC - 11 Jul 2005 22:22 GMT
> >>>>>>So, it does still contain minute amounts of cocaine?
> >>>>>
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>
> Pastorio

I have read a number of books and other numerous pieces on the history
of coke and coca-cola (the company) and what you appear to label as
conjectural appears to me to be historical facts. The article is
accurate on the points related to the history of the company and the
product. If you feel otherwise, please educate us as to what
"conjectures" were inaccurate.

And yes it snotty snide coment, based on accurate history and
observations.

TC
Bob (this one) - 12 Jul 2005 01:53 GMT
>>>>>>>>So, it does still contain minute amounts of cocaine?
>>>>>>>
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> And yes it snotty snide coment, based on accurate history and
> observations.

Give it a rest. No one argues with the history of the company. It's all
that bullshit "chemistry" and "biology" that's a bit too far out to buy.
If Coke were such a destroyer of teeth and bodies as the doomsayers say,
it would either be put back to its medicine state where the syrup was
commonly found in drugstores (as it was when I was a kid) or it would be
taken off all the shelves of every store.

Frankly, it's not worth going through a multi-part, purple-prosefest to
isolate the obviously absurd parts. It's a garbled piece, alternately
dealing with historical fact then raging and ranting about deleterious
effects that may or may not actually be the case. He quotes a whole lot
of people, virtually all "alternative" types, most of whom take shots at
Coke. Fine, for a polemic. Just not much science in there.

Pastorio
Doug Freese - 12 Jul 2005 11:33 GMT
> Frankly, it's not worth going through a multi-part, purple-prosefest
> to isolate the obviously absurd parts. It's a garbled piece,
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> of whom take shots at Coke. Fine, for a polemic. Just not much science
> in there.

Why do you even bother to banter with him. He spends his days and nights
looking for articles that stress his views. Sad to say, and as we have
all noted, very little science and all opinion. When one does show him a
science paper that disputes any of his views, he discards them as
Corporate shills on the take. When one thinks like that, how can they
ever be wrong?

Understand, he is right and the world is wrong.

-DF
TC - 12 Jul 2005 14:31 GMT
> > Frankly, it's not worth going through a multi-part, purple-prosefest
> > to isolate the obviously absurd parts. It's a garbled piece,
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>
> -DF

You guys are jokes, the both of you. You insist that I am wrong but
can't be bothered to actually show anything to support it. Continually.

Put up or shut the f**k up, a.sholes.

TC
bob@coolgroups.com - 11 Jul 2005 21:54 GMT
What facts did it validate?

> > >>>>So, it does still contain minute amounts of cocaine?
> > >>>
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>
> TC
TC - 11 Jul 2005 22:14 GMT
> What facts did it validate?

It repeated accurate and known historical facts about Coca-Cola, both
the company and the drink. It did not validate the facts as much as the
facts as presented validated the article to some extent, IMHO.

If you are challenging the accuracy of the points presented in the
article, please go ahead and tell us exactly which points you are
challenging and why. Please, inform us poor plebes.

TC
Dr Tomato - 08 Jul 2005 08:03 GMT
>Could someone tell me what ingredients are in Coca cola?  I read the
>label, and it said it contains natural flavors.  What type of plants do
>these natural flavors come from?  Do they come from the cola tree?

According to Disinfotainment Today:

THE COCA-COLA RECIPE  
1 oz. citrate caffeine
1 oz. vanilla
2½ oz. flavoring *
4 oz. fluid extract of coca
3 oz. citric acid
1 qt. lime juice
30 lbs. sugar
2½ gal. water
caramel
* orange, lemon, nutmeg, cinnamon, coriander, neroli oils, alcohol, and crack

So, it's a kind of mocha, caramel, curry milkshake without the milk.
 
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