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Medical Forum / General / Nutrition / July 2005Eating for Blood Type? Any experience out here?
I've been reading this book about eating foods that are healthiest for your blood type. I am type A and man oh geez! It's soooo limiting. I'm very interested in feeling better so I am really trying to find a good focused program I can use. Thoughts? Thanks. > I've been reading this book about eating foods that are healthiest for > your blood type. I am type A and man oh geez! It's soooo limiting. > I'm very interested in feeling better so I am really trying to find a > good focused program I can use. Thoughts? Thanks. I am amazed how anybody would take this seriously. I am personally against anyone knowing their blood type as it does them no good what so ever. If you want to amuse yourself then go ahead. It is a good conversational piece if you want to get laid at parties. Use some pick up lines on what she's eating. Maybe you can put some here so I can use some of those lines. If you are a type A person then you will agglutinate a type B person and if you are type O then you can have an orgy with a type A and B and O person. By careful when using the term "eat" comes in. >>I've been reading this book about eating foods that are healthiest for your blood type. I am type A and man oh geez! It's soooo limiting. I'm very interested in feeling better so I am really trying to find a good focused program I can use. Thoughts? Thanks. << COMMENT: Take a pill. Valium, Xanax, Ativan, whatever. Get a hobby. Get laid! Geez. > Take a pill. Valium, Xanax, Ativan, whatever. Get a hobby. Get laid! > Geez. Was that advise given in your capacity as a MD, or as our resident Kook of the Month? Everyone here is waiting with bated breath for your answer. Just thought that you might want to know. :) >I've been reading this book about eating foods that are healthiest for >your blood type. I am type A and man oh geez! It's soooo limiting. >I'm very interested in feeling better so I am really trying to find a >good focused program I can use. Thoughts? Thanks. Hey, I thought everyone knew you should eat according to your astrological sign, not blood type. :: On 19 Jun 2005 14:57:32 -0700, "sirenityseekr" <cafeentwo@msn.com> :: wrote: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] :: Hey, I thought everyone knew you should eat according to your :: astrological sign, not blood type. Great! I am a Libra, what would you recommend? :-)  SignatureJuhana > :: On 19 Jun 2005 14:57:32 -0700, "sirenityseekr" <cafeentwo@msn.com> > :: wrote: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Great! I am a Libra, what would you recommend? :-) A lot of fish because they have scales. Pastorio :: Juhana Harju wrote: ::: Rita wrote: [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] :: :: A lot of fish because they have scales. Thanks for advice. And what would you recommend for a Virgo? SignatureJuhana > :: Juhana Harju wrote: > ::: Rita wrote: [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Thanks for advice. And what would you recommend for a Virgo? Olive oil. Pastorio :: Juhana Harju wrote: ::: Bob (this one) wrote: [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] :: :: Pastorio Thanks. You are a real galactic nutritional guru. :-) SignatureJuhana > :: Juhana Harju wrote: > ::: Bob (this one) wrote: [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Thanks. You are a real galactic nutritional guru. :-) Uhm, yeah. People say that about me. No, seriously... Pastorio >:: Juhana Harju wrote: >::: Bob (this one) wrote: [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Thanks. You are a real galactic nutritional guru. :-) Great! I'm a Virgo too! Bob(this one)'s astrological diet really works! ;-))) I'm just kidding, but if someone sold such a diet book they would make big bucks, I guess. Maybe someone already does. SignatureEnrico C :: On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:28:20 +0300, Juhana Harju wrote in :: <news:3hoclfFi4gq7U1@individual.net> on sci.med.nutrition : [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] :: -- :: Enrico C Thanks for a nice tip. I'll start writing it right away! SignatureJuhana > :: On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:28:20 +0300, Juhana Harju wrote in > :: <news:3hoclfFi4gq7U1@individual.net> on sci.med.nutrition : [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > Thanks for a nice tip. I'll start writing it right away! Enrico and I expect to be mentioned in the book. With pictures. Pastorio :: Juhana Harju wrote: ::: Enrico C wrote: [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] :: :: Pastorio That's a deal. Nude, I expect? SignatureJuhana >>:: Juhana Harju wrote: >>::: Bob (this one) wrote: [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > Great! I'm a Virgo too! Bob(this one)'s astrological diet really works! > ;-))) Of course. I'm taurus and I like beef. Pisces? No brainer. See how it works...? <LOL> > I'm just kidding, but if someone sold such a diet book they would make big > bucks, I guess. Maybe someone already does. We're all too late... <http://tinyurl.com/eyaxr> Pastorio :: Enrico C wrote: ::: On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:28:20 +0300, Juhana Harju wrote in [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] :: :: Pastorio Here it is... http://www.astrologyguidance.com/store/books/astrdiet.htm SignatureJuhana > I've been reading this book about eating foods that are healthiest for > your blood type. I am type A and man oh geez! It's soooo limiting. > I'm very interested in feeling better so I am really trying to find a > good focused program I can use. Thoughts? Thanks. I bought the "Eat Right for your type" book around 2000 but was put off by some negative reviews I read just after ordering it. Some 6 months ago I decided to give it a try anyway. I don't regret it. Ever since I can remember, I have always been avoiding at least half of the foods listed under the "foods to avoid" for my blood type. I either didn't like them or knew they were not good for me (they made me unwell). Then I read the book and started to follow the blood type diet more closely. Overall, I had good results so far. I feel better by avoiding the foods that are bad for me. I noticed that I can tolerate some foods on the "avoid" list better then others. For example, oranges are bad for my stomach and I feel it right away (always have), while potatoes I would have to eat regularly, say 3-4 times per week to start feeling their negative effect. If you have a good feel for your body, it's easy to experiment with recommendations in the book. Just remove all the "avoid" foods for a few weeks and then add one at a time and see how they affect you. You can do the same with the "beneficial" ones too. SignatureDawid Michalczyk http://www.art.eonworks.com - Art and Illustration >> I've been reading this book about eating foods that are healthiest for >> your blood type. I am type A and man oh geez! It's soooo limiting. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > some negative reviews I read just after ordering it. Some 6 months ago I > decided to give it a try anyway. I don't regret it. I would never use that book. Well, unless I needed to start a fire and was out of newspaper. Neither the book nor theory is not based on any good science (except the theory that there is a sucker born every minute). Jeff > Ever since I can remember, I have always been avoiding at least half of > the foods listed under the "foods to avoid" for my blood type. I either [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > weeks and then add one at a time and see how they affect you. You can do > the same with the "beneficial" ones too. > >> I've been reading this book about eating foods that are healthiest for > >> your blood type. I am type A and man oh geez! It's soooo limiting. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Jeff It's also suitable for toilet paper if you run out! If I were to eat for my type, I'd end up a waddling blob with diabetes. It's only good if you happen to be type "O". <G> SignatureOm. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson > > I've been reading this book about eating foods that are healthiest for > > your blood type. I am type A and man oh geez! It's soooo limiting. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > "avoid" list better then others. For example, oranges are bad for my > stomach and I feel it right away (always have), while potatoes I would Oranges are bad for my stomach also and I am type O. I guess next time I see a woman eating oranges I'll ask if she would prefer bananas depending on her blood type of course. How nice to find a civil response after a slew of nasties. What's with those other ornery children? My goodness. Thank you Dawid > How nice to find a civil response after a slew of nasties. What's with > those other ornery children? My goodness. Thank you Dawid The truth that the blood type diet is utter bullshit and not based on any science. Jeff > The truth that the blood type diet is utter bullshit and not based on any > science. Ditto! I have heard a lot of favorable comments about the type O diet, not one in favor of the type A. People must simply like the type O diet. Has nothing to do with your biochemistry. A diet based on your race or ancestry would be easier to justify scientifically. Eskimos should eat a lot of fat and fish. Are there any takers? Just my opinion, but I am right as usual. > > The truth that the blood type diet is utter bullshit and not based on any > > science. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > in favor of the type A. People must simply like the type O diet. Has > nothing to do with your biochemistry. The type O diet is low carb. The type A diet is high carb. Duh. > A diet based on your race or ancestry would be easier to justify > scientifically. Eskimos should eat a lot of fat and fish. Are there any > takers? > > Just my opinion, but I am right as usual. > SignatureOm. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson >The type O diet is low carb. >The type A diet is high carb. > >Duh. Sorry, but if you would actually take some time to look at the lists of foods, you will find that the Type A diet is NOT HI CARB. The blood type food lists are specific based on foods to eat or avoid, not hi/low carb. Come out of your box, it's rather shallow and not a fun place to play in. best Steve http://www.uoregon.edu/~sshapiro/Pemphigus This is the part I love here. All the "Experts" that say it's bullshit and continuously get caught knowing absolutely nothing except what they overheard the girls at the office talking about. > > > The truth that the blood type diet is utter bullshit and not based on any > > > science. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > > > Just my opinion, but I am right as usual. > This is the part I love here. All the "Experts" that say it's bullshit and > continuously get caught knowing absolutely nothing except what they > overheard the girls at the office talking about. It's bullshit and yes, the girls in the office are experts at it. That's the only thing it's good for and that is getting to talk to girls at the office. One on one investigation. > This is the part I love here. All the "Experts" that say it's bullshit and > continuously get caught knowing absolutely nothing except what they > overheard the girls at the office talking about. No, I actually read the book... Type A, (my type) was told to avoid too much meat, that my blood type had evolved in an agricultural enviroment. I have wheat allergies and insulin resistance. I'd get fat as a pig eating that kind of diet! Pam, the friend that was trying to push it on me, was type "O". I read hers and it suggested avoiding grains and stuff. If you translate it, that comes out to a higher meat diet as that blood type evolved when people were "hunter/gatherers", Sounds low carb to me! SignatureOm. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson Um, duh, why are we even having this discussion. If you would LOOK at the Type A list, you would clearly see that most forms of wheat should be avoided, especially Wheat Germ, Wheat Bran, whole wheat. Plain bleached & processed wheat flour can be tolerated by some type A's, but is not recommended. It's a specific compound called "Wheat Germ Agglutinen" that's the problem (WGA, search Medline about it), not the carbohydrate content. Again, blood type food choice is food specific, not lumping categories of foods into eat/don't eat. Again, the Type A diet is not high carb. best, steve >> This is the part I love here. All the "Experts" that say it's bullshit and >> continuously get caught knowing absolutely nothing except what they [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > >Sounds low carb to me! This guy hasn't gone near any of the 5 or 6 books by either author and it's obvious. He has also nym shifted to avoid killfilters. This is troll activity. > Um, duh, why are we even having this discussion. If you would LOOK at > the Type A list, you would clearly see that most forms of wheat should [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > > >Sounds low carb to me! > > A diet based on your race or ancestry would be easier to justify > > scientifically. Eskimos should eat a lot of fat and fish. Are there any > > takers? Actually, Eskimos should eat a lot of seals and fatty mammals. Polynesians should eat a lot of fish. Australian aborigines should eat a lot of meat. While Blacks should avoid milk and dairy products. etc., etc., etc. >> The truth that the blood type diet is utter bullshit and not based on any >> science. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >scientifically. Eskimos should eat a lot of fat and fish. Are there any >takers? Hmmm. My ancestors come from the British Isles so what would be the recommended diet for me? Besides Guiness, that is. Should I check out the Bog People Diet? rr By your nick you should stiff with a total salad diet. > >> The truth that the blood type diet is utter bullshit and not based on any > >> science. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > rr > By your nick you should stiff with a total salad diet. Bwahaha.. Rabbit... "stiff" with a total salad diet. Bwahahaha <wipes eyes> Geddit...? Sex and veggies in one pithy line... Pastorio > "Roger Rabbit" <rogers@home.com> wrote > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >> >>rr >> By your nick you should stiff with a total salad diet. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Pastorio That's Mr. Rabbit! And leave my very active sex life out of this conversation! Oops, its time again ... :oP rr >> "Roger Rabbit" <rogers@home.com> wrote >> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >>> >>>rr >>>By your nick you should stiff with a total salad diet. >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > That's Mr. Rabbit! And leave my very active sex life out of this > conversation! Oops, its time again ... :oP Oh, sure. But what about the poor veggies. Nothing for them...? Pastorio >By your nick you should stiff with a total salad diet. I use my nick to protect the guilty! ;o) p.s. My coworker, originally from England, calls me a bog person because my ancestors came to Canada from Wales via Ireland. rr >> >> The truth that the blood type diet is utter bullshit and not based on >any [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >> >> rr >How nice to find a civil response after a slew of nasties. What's with >those other ornery children? My goodness. Thank you Dawid Sorry but there's nothing good one can say about this quack diet book written by a quack for people who like to follow the advice of quacks. I thought we were done with this book years ago! Apparently not! A new generation of quack-followers have arrived on the scene. rr I have had excellent results as a Type O. My wife, type A had neutral effects and forgot about it. It has changed the way I think and opened up a lot of new avenues for me with food types. The foods are not exact for each type. D'adamo's son has discovered some new parameters to help isolate some of the exceptions. I have no expereince with that. Try for a few months and if it works keep it. If not ignore and try something else to improve. Best of luck. > I've been reading this book about eating foods that are healthiest for > your blood type. I am type A and man oh geez! It's soooo limiting. > I'm very interested in feeling better so I am really trying to find a > good focused program I can use. Thoughts? Thanks. > I have had excellent results as a Type O. My wife, type A had neutral > effects and forgot about it. My wife? Pizza girl is a married lesbian woman? A transvestite? > > I have had excellent results as a Type O. My wife, type A had neutral > > effects and forgot about it. > My wife? Pizza girl is a married lesbian woman? A transvestite? Ha, ... Hah, Ha! I always knew that Pizza Girl was a f.ck face. Now, I know that "it" is too too f.cked up to ever take as a joke again. :( "It" is more of a germ deserving to be eradicated. After all, who would name themselves after junk food in a science nutrition forum? There is nothing normal, or desirable, about being gay. Just my opinion, but I am right as usual. :) And you call yourself Mr Natural Health? You, should be band. Tarred, feathered and then banned. Off with his head!!!! >>"It" is more of a germ deserving to be eradicated. After all, who would name themselves after junk food in a science nutrition forum? There is nothing normal, or desirable, about being gay. << COMMENT: There's nothing normal about being red-haired or left-handed, either, Gohde--- you bigotted weenie. Whether or not it's explicitly "undesirable" to be left-handed depends on the level of enlightenment in the society you live in. Once upon a time it was considered "sinister" to be left-handed, hence the modern meaning of the word. We've progressed since then, but not in other ways. A hundred years ago when left-handed students were punished and schools actively tried to get them to switch to writing with the "correct hand," there were just about half as many left-handed students as there are today. Evidently about half of today's left handed students are sufficiently ambidexterous to be converted to right-handed writing, if they are hounded enough. But the other half really have little choice in the matter, and are made about as miserable by this procedure as a right-handed student would be if he lost his hand and was forced into doing everything left-handed. Sexual orientation is very much like handedness. Would it not be better to leave everybody alone? That's a rhetorical question. You, evidently, will have problems answering it. Due to stupidity and lack of imagination. SBH > A hundred years ago when left-handed students were punished and schools > actively tried to get them to switch to writing with the "correct > hand," there were just about half as many left-handed students as there > are today. If left-handed people were eradicated thousands of years ago, they wouldn't be here today. That is called the science of evolution. They are here today because of human culture. And, today the fags are screwing up American culture. Just thought that you might want to know. :) Well we cannot blame the gays for having screwed up genetics from some malnutritional genetic idiosyncrasy but we can blame them for acting like fruitcake, faggot cocksuckers with limp wrists. One question to finish this off. If gay guys like other men why do the other men try to act like women? > > A hundred years ago when left-handed students were punished and schools > > actively tried to get them to switch to writing with the "correct [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Just thought that you might want to know. :) > Well we cannot blame the gays for having screwed up genetics from some > malnutritional genetic idiosyncrasy but we can blame them for acting like > fruitcake, faggot cocksuckers with limp wrists. Lesbianism is the ultimate form of the women's liberation movement, so they want us to believe. :( Ha, ... Hah, Ha! Those in the know, however, realize that Lesbos suffer from a fundamental lack of self-esteem. As Freud put it, you got a very bad case of penis envy ... Butch! Small minded responses. Small brained responder. Mr unatural unhealthy. Like he said He has penis envy. > Small minded responses. Small brained responder. Mr unatural > unhealthy. >>If left-handed people were eradicated thousands of years ago, they wouldn't be here today. That is called the science of evolution. << COMMENT: Sorry, but genetics is not that simple. Just thought you might want to know. Please don't say that. I will pay you if you don't say that! LOL > Sorry, but genetics is not that simple. Just thought you might want to > know. > >>If left-handed people were eradicated thousands of years ago, they > wouldn't be here today. That is called the science of evolution. << [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Sorry, but genetics is not that simple. Just thought you might want to > know. Oh yes it is! :) Left-handers are simply a mutation just like humans who make vitamin C are. Get rid of that mutation, and it is gone forever. Just my opinion, but I am right since our residenct quack MD is a fruit. :) I guess Steve is one of those humans who still has a tail. Ha, ... Hah, Ha! Is it your third brain? >Left-handers are simply a mutation just like humans who make vitamin C >are. Get rid of that mutation, and it is gone forever. Or perhaps a result from mother smoking while having a baby in the womb or perhaps a mutation in the eggs in ovaries from tobacco carcinogens (inducing permanent changes in the genes of your unborn great grandchildren in perhaps 100 years from now) (Evidences are now coming to surface that at least the DNA of mitochondria in unripe eggs in ovaries can mutate when the young women do smoke) Robert! I think a change of show would be in order for you too! May help with the ugly's. > Robert! I think a change of show would be in order for you too! May > help with the ugly's. Sorry I thought you wanted an honest opinion and happy fathers day to both of you. > happy fathers day to both > of you. Ha, ... Hah, Ha! When your brain is f.cked up enough to be gay, then every aspect of your life is totally f.cked! It is called reality. Just my opinion, but I am right as usual. :) Hi PG. Hey, you also wrote to me about he Amino's. I had a real bad time with my first dose of 5htp. It kept me awake much of the night. Now I just take it during the day. Any clue of that response. I go back to the Amino Acid guy tomorrow for a follow-up. Not real sure about the validiity of visiting with him. Nice guy, but I'm just not sure I couldn't get the same advice right here or from a book. Thanks for the response. >I have had excellent results as a Type O. My wife, type A had neutral > effects and forgot about it. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Try for a few months and if it works keep it. If not ignore and try > something else to improve. if the theory works its true- if the theory does not work then just ignore the result.. not exactly signs of great theory. > Best of luck. > >> I've been reading this book about eating foods that are healthiest for >> your blood type. I am type A and man oh geez! It's soooo limiting. >> I'm very interested in feeling better so I am really trying to find a >> good focused program I can use. Thoughts? Thanks. > I have had excellent results as a Type O. My wife, type A had neutral > effects and forgot about it. If this pervert ever goes near one of my replies again, guess what I am going to do? Ha, ... Hah, Ha! Your own words will be exposed with a direct reference to this fine post yours. :) Just thought that you might want to know. > I have had excellent results as a Type O. My wife, type A had neutral > effects and forgot about it. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Best of luck. It'll always work if you are type "O". The diet for type "O" happens to be low carb. Duh. The diet for type "A", my type, is exactly what made me obese in the first place! This book is a total crock of sh.t. SignatureOm. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson Being a pig and eating lots of junk food made you obese. Nothing else, nobody else. Burn your brain, not the book. Try reading it once. You have already demonstrated you have no idea what the book is about fool. Which book have you read and which author was it? > > I have had excellent results as a Type O. My wife, type A had neutral > > effects and forgot about it. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > This book is a total crock of sh.t. > Being a pig and eating lots of junk food made you obese. Nothing else, > nobody else. > > Burn your brain, not the book. Try reading it once. You have already > demonstrated you have no idea what the book is about fool. Which book have > you read and which author was it? "Eat right for your type" was the name of the book... I did not memorize the author as I could tell the book was full of pseudo-science and only good for toilet paper. Cheers! SignatureOm. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson > I've been reading this book about eating foods that are healthiest for > your blood type. I am type A and man oh geez! It's soooo limiting. > I'm very interested in feeling better so I am really trying to find a > good focused program I can use. Thoughts? Thanks. It never ceases to amaze me the utter BS that some people will believe. That was my first thought. It takes all kinds to make a planet, I guess you are filling a niche. That was my second thought. I'll stop there. SignatureDr. Dickie Skepticult member in good standing #394-00596-438 Poking kooks with a pointy stick. "The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' ('I found it!'), but rather 'hmm....that's funny...'" - Isaac Asimov Some morons will believe anything they read. Some even believe vaccines actually do positive things for people's health. > > I've been reading this book about eating foods that are healthiest for > > your blood type. I am type A and man oh geez! It's soooo limiting. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > It takes all kinds to make a planet, I guess you are filling a niche. That > was my second thought. I'll stop there. > Some morons will believe anything they read. Some even believe > vaccines actually do positive things for people's health. <LOL> Uninformed opinion that flies in the face of millions and millions of experiences. How deeeeep. Vaccines don't do positive things for people's health. They help prevent or minimize negative things that damage people's health. Pastorio >>> I've been reading this book about eating foods that are >>> healthiest for your blood type. I am type A and man oh geez! [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> planet, I guess you are filling a niche. That was my second >> thought. I'll stop there. And how is this vaccine quackery and more valid than a scientifically researched blood type diet? > > Some morons will believe anything they read. Some even believe > > vaccines actually do positive things for people's health. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > >> planet, I guess you are filling a niche. That was my second > >> thought. I'll stop there. > And how is this vaccine quackery and more valid than a scientifically > researched blood type diet? Statistics, darling. Statistics. Vaccination has before and after comparisons. Has done here but not there comparisons. Has long, long experience with demonstrable effect. The blood type diet has no scientific standing. The "historical" background is pure fiction; the biology is Disneyland. Blood types didn't come into being the way that fraud says, And do look at the types found in chimps. Ooooops. He's dead wrong. Pastorio >>>Some morons will believe anything they read. Some even believe >>>vaccines actually do positive things for people's health. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >>>>planet, I guess you are filling a niche. That was my second >>>>thought. I'll stop there. > Some morons will believe anything they read. Some even believe vaccines > actually do positive things for people's health. Some people still hope that you will eventually start to show consideration for fellow members of these newsgroups by inline posting. The fact of the matter is that after sanitation and clean water, vaccination is greatest public health measure ever. It saves millions of lives each year, by preventing deaths from measles, mumps, rubella, smallpox, polio, chicken-pox, diptheria, purtussis, tetanus and Hib invasive disease. Jeff (...) Here is your consideration., Don't let the door hit ya' in the a.s on the way out. > > Some morons will believe anything they read. Some even believe vaccines > > actually do positive things for people's health. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > (...) > Some morons will believe anything they read. Some even believe vaccines > actually do positive things for people's health. You mean like the Small Pox vaccine? That disease used to kill millions per year. Now it's virtually wiped out. And they are making progress on polio. I've personally met older polio survivors before the vaccine became available. I'd rather have the vaccine, thanks, than take my chances! The only real problem I have with vaccinations is that they are given TOO damned early! What the hell is the point in giving a baby a vaccination before their immune system is developed enough to really make use of it? There are many rumors of SIDS being connected to the older Pertussis vaccine. There are pros and cons. Don't throw the baby out with the bath water! SignatureOm. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson I didn't have any polio vaccine and I do not have the disease. My brother was vaccinated for polio and he is dead, possibly linked to the vaccine. Polio disappeared in countries never having a vaccination programme. So did measles. Did you get your swine flu vaccine too? > > Some morons will believe anything they read. Some even believe vaccines > > actually do positive things for people's health. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > There are pros and cons. > Don't throw the baby out with the bath water! > My brother was vaccinated for polio and he > is dead, possibly linked to the vaccine. Maybe he couldn't bear beaing related to you? Or, are you talking about your sister? >I didn't have any polio vaccine and I do not have the disease. Others did have a polio vaccine and prevented you from getting infected. >My brother was vaccinated for polio and he is dead, possibly linked to the >vaccine. it either was or it wasn't; its not that hard to find that out if there is enough motivation to do so. (and the death of a relative should be enough motivation if there really was a reasonable possibility) > Polio disappeared in countries never having a vaccination programme. So > did > measles. the thing with epidemics is: less carriers - smaller incidence of getting infected. people have the habit of moving from place to place every now and then. > Did you get your swine flu vaccine too? > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >> Don't throw the baby out with the bath water! > Nicholson They can't even prove vaccination works. How would they prove it killed somebody 45 years later? They have already proven statistics don't count or else they would have to admit the vaccines do not work at all. > >I didn't have any polio vaccine and I do not have the disease. > [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > >> Don't throw the baby out with the bath water! > > Nicholson > They can't even prove vaccination works. <LOL> You say it, so it must be true. Bwah... Statistics are exactly what *does* prove that vaccines work. And they prove that the good actually extends to those not vaccinated by reducing the numbers of carriers and transmitters. But, hey, let's not permit facts to intrude on a good empty rant. Pastorio > How would they prove it killed somebody 45 years later? They have > already proven statistics don't count or else they would have to [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] >>> >>> Nicholson >I've been reading this book about eating foods that are healthiest for >your blood type. I am type A and man oh geez! It's soooo limiting. >I'm very interested in feeling better so I am really trying to find a >good focused program I can use. Thoughts? Thanks. Thoughts? Yes. This is a quack diet. No serious medical professional takes this diet seriously. There is no evidence to support the author's claims of adverse effects caused by lectins. My recommendation: toss this book out now. rr Have you tried the diet? I didn't think so. I have and it works wonders for me and thousands of other that have come forward. Even read a few histories of followers on the website? I didn't thnk so. Just another ignorant sheep doing what his mommy told him to do. > >I've been reading this book about eating foods that are healthiest for > >your blood type. I am type A and man oh geez! It's soooo limiting. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > rr > Have you tried the diet? > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I didn't thnk so. Just another ignorant sheep doing what his mommy told him > to do. I'm betting you are type "O", right? SignatureOm. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson > Have you tried the diet? Of course not. All one has to do is read the bullshit "science" that's biologically and genetically nonsense to see what a waste of time it is. > I didn't think so. I have and it works wonders for me and thousands of other > that have come forward. Even read a few histories of followers on the > website? Right. Funny thing about those thousands who come forward. Where exactly is that happening? The web site? Do count those "thousands." > I didn't thnk so. Just another ignorant sheep doing what his mommy told him > to do. As opposed to a crank who buys anything as long as it doesn't have any science behind it. Pastorio >>>I've been reading this book about eating foods that are healthiest for >>>your blood type. I am type A and man oh geez! It's soooo limiting. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >> >>rr Which book and author have you read on the Blood type diet? Did you not understand the science behind it? > > Have you tried the diet? > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > >> > >>rr > Which book and author have you read on the Blood type diet? Did you not > understand the science behind it? There *is* no science behind it. The story about how and when blood types originated is pure, unadulterated fiction. Did you read about primate blood types? The premises the BTD people assert that separate us from them are wrong. I've read D'Adamo's crappy "Live right for your type" and it takes about three pages in to see how wrong it all is. His biology is flat out bullshit. His reconstruction of the timelines for evolutionary development are straight out of "Jurassic Park." Funny how not one reliable scientific organization, not one medical organization, not one nutritional organization endorses it or even suggests it's anything but another fad diet. Pastorio >>>Have you tried the diet? >> [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] >>>>author's claims of adverse effects caused by lectins. My >>>>recommendation: toss this book out now. Actually I think Jurassic Park is closer to reality. ;o) rr >> Which book and author have you read on the Blood type diet? Did you not >> understand the science behind it? [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] >>>>>author's claims of adverse effects caused by lectins. My >>>>>recommendation: toss this book out now. > Actually I think Jurassic Park is closer to reality. ;o) <LOL> Amen... Pastorio >>>Which book and author have you read on the Blood type diet? Did you not >>>understand the science behind it? [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] >>>>>>author's claims of adverse effects caused by lectins. My >>>>>>recommendation: toss this book out now. > Which book and author have you read on the Blood type diet? Did you not > understand the science behind it? There is no science behind it. The only behinds one wants to know are the ones at the office wearing skirts. >Which book and author have you read on the Blood type diet? Did you not >understand the science behind it? I'm afraid the only science behind this diet is science fiction. Moreover, there are many systems besides the ABO system of blood classification. How does D'Adamo's theory work with the Rh system for example? BTW, my blood type is A+ so according to this theory I should do well on an almost vegan diet. I've tried vegetarian and vegan diets in the past but always felt better adding various animal foods back into my diet. So who are the health professionals that support this theory? I'd be curious to find out. rr :: I've been reading this book about eating foods that are healthiest :: for your blood type. I am type A and man oh geez! It's soooo :: limiting. I'm very interested in feeling better so I am really :: trying to find a good focused program I can use. Thoughts? Thanks. This is my serious reply from one previous discussion: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/sci.med.nutrition/msg/3797918d6660b20c?hl=fi SignatureJuhana >:: I've been reading this book about eating foods that are healthiest >:: for your blood type. I am type A and man oh geez! It's soooo [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > http://groups-beta.google.com/group/sci.med.nutrition/msg/3797918d6660b20c?hl=fi That's very interesting. Let me quote it and ask a few questions. [...] | It is true that blood groups predispose to certain diseases How important can be the "blood group" risk factor in certain diseases? Would it be possible to draw some conclusions about the best diet to prevent/treat those diseases related to certain blood groups? | but D'Adamo is | illogical. Ok, but that would just mean that *his* "blood group diet" is wrong, right? A (hypothetic) alternative blood group diet could be more logical? | Let's take blood group O. Here I am! :) | Blood group O has a higher risk of | duodenal ulcers. That's bad news. :( Any other bad news for me? :) | According to D'Adamo blood group O people should prefer | meat to vegetables, legumes and cereal, which is is ill-advised as dietary [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] | | http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&. Thus, I gather that blood group 0 people like me should eat more foods high in soluble fibre and vit. A, right? Or I shouldn't overstimate "blood group" risk and eat just as anybody else, a diet rich in fiber (that's good for everybody) but not *especially* rich? I read, in fact, that even too much soluble fibre could be a problem... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dietary_fiber | Soluble fiber is found in some fruits (particularly oranges, also apples | and bananas), oats, legumes, (peas, soybeans, and other beans), other [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] | and seeds, vegetables such as green beans, cauliflower, and potato | skins, and the skins of fruit and root vegetables. >>:: I've been reading this book about eating foods that are healthiest >>:: for your blood type. I am type A and man oh geez! It's soooo [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] > for everybody) but not *especially* rich? > I read, in fact, that even too much soluble fibre could be a problem... In other words, I mean, even if 0 blood group people are somewhat more at risk of duodenal ulcers, what should they do? 1. Eat their soluble fiber (as everybody should). Yet, not overeat it. 2. Eat lots of soluble fiber, more than other people should. I guess the correct answer might be no. 1. In that case, there is not really a specific diet for each blood group, but - at most - a specific reason to follow a certain recommendation in a generally correct diet. What do you reckon? > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dietary_fiber >| Soluble fiber is found in some fruits (particularly oranges, also apples [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >| and seeds, vegetables such as green beans, cauliflower, and potato >| skins, and the skins of fruit and root vegetables. I tried the diet for one week and i got pretty sick. I need much more than what this diet allows. I think this diet may work if blood type were the only factor to consider but, of course, it isn't. So, I thank you all for your input! Wow, ya'll get busy with the dialog! Very entertainling. > I tried the diet for one week and i got pretty sick. I need much more > than what this diet allows. I think this diet may work if blood type > were the only factor to consider but, of course, it isn't. So, I > thank you all for your input! Wow, ya'll get busy with the dialog! > Very entertainling. Don't forget to try every diet out there and buy every book out there. It helps the economy. > > I tried the diet for one week and i got pretty sick. I need much more > > than what this diet allows. I think this diet may work if blood type [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Don't forget to try every diet out there and buy every book out there. It > helps the economy. Or to save money, just eat less and move more... Eat fewer calories than you consume! Cheers! SignatureOm. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson >> > I tried the diet for one week and i got pretty sick. I need much more >> > than what this diet allows. I think this diet may work if blood type [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Or to save money, just eat less and move more... > Eat fewer calories than you consume! this system is obviously not spectacular enough to be popular. people want "what your doctor/scientist/politicans.. won't tell you" kind of diets. > >> > I tried the diet for one week and i got pretty sick. I need much more > >> > than what this diet allows. I think this diet may work if blood type [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > this system is obviously not spectacular enough to be popular. Obviously... ;-) But even _I_, with all my care and will power, still reached a sticking point that I could not get past strictly low carbing, so had to up my gym activities from 3 days per week to 5 days per week. The scale is finally moving downwards again at a steady rate. > people want "what your doctor/scientist/politicans.. won't tell you" kind of > diets. Actually, I do work with a doctor that controls my meds, but she only discussed what I'd planned to do diet-wise. She never "told me what to do", just agreed with my plan. I think most people, by now, know what they have to do, they just don't have the self-discipline to do it. SignatureOm. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson You "expert" morons! The blood type diet is not intended for weight loss. Don't start here about what you know about D'adamo and his son and their diets. You just admitted total ignorance and all being moronic trolls. More know-nothings with big mouths here. > > >> > I tried the diet for one week and i got pretty sick. I need much more > > >> > than what this diet allows. I think this diet may work if blood type [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > I think most people, by now, know what they have to do, they just don't > have the self-discipline to do it. >> >> > I tried the diet for one week and i got pretty sick. I need much >> >> > more [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > I think most people, by now, know what they have to do, they just don't > have the self-discipline to do it. exactly. everyone is trying to find a workaround where you can eat strawberry-cake and burgers all day and stay perfectly in shape. > >> >> > I tried the diet for one week and i got pretty sick. I need much > >> >> > more [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > everyone is trying to find a workaround where you can eat strawberry-cake > and burgers all day and stay perfectly in shape. They want that "magic pill", or gastric bypass surgery. <shudder> I was a candidate, but she only mentioned it once. My reaction was less than enthusiastic. <lol> She never mentioned it again!!!!! But I have lost 40 lbs. so far so I proved to her that I _could_ do it once I got the help of Metformin! I am rabidly against that surgery except as a very last resort for really HUGE people. Over 300 lbs. I never got quite that bad thank the gods! I think another reason I got stuck was that my T4 dropped below normal range when we switched to Thyroid Armour. I'm hoping that now that Thyrolar is available again, I can bring that back up. I'm taking 2 per day right now and will re-test next week. Armour brought my TSH down into normal range, but is not working well to keep T4 up. I really need to shell out again for a total T3. Our lab does not run those so I'll have to co-pay for it. Cheers! SignatureOm. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson The book was free, I'm not a fool, and you are so very wrong to judge. You have such limited information about my situation I don't know what you are basing your conclusions on. How many of you have been slam dunked into menopause? Until you have been here, you cannot possibly know what the challanges are like. It has been an amazing, frightening, no, terrifying is more accurate, experience. I am trying to find all new ways to be the best that I can be as everything inside has changed. The way my body acts, responds to all things ingested, my though processes, my ability to focus, remember, and reason have all been switched around. Imagine it, it much like a nighmare or a action thriller movie but I don't wake up and no one yells CUT! The action packed adventure just keeps on rollin and I am the star the director the stage hands...you get the picture? Most likely not. Never mind. >> > I tried the diet for one week and i got pretty sick. I need much more >> > than what this diet allows. I think this diet may work if blood type [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >Or to save money, just eat less and move more... >Eat fewer calories than you consume! What? No book? No diet guru? Way to radical! It'll never work. rr > >> > I tried the diet for one week and i got pretty sick. I need much more > >> > than what this diet allows. I think this diet may work if blood type [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > rr Sarcasm becomes you....... ;-) Cheers! SignatureOm. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson The book was free, I'm not a fool, and you are so very wrong to judge. You have such limited information about my situation I don't know what you are basing your conclusions on. How many of you have been slam dunked into menopause? Until you have been here, you cannot possibly know what the challanges are like. It has been an amazing, frightening, no, terrifying is more accurate, experience. I am trying to find all new ways to be the best that I can be as everything inside has changed. The way my body acts, responds to all things ingested, my though processes, my ability to focus, remember, and reason have all been switched around. Imagine it, it much like a nighmare or a action thriller movie but I don't wake up and no one yells CUT! The action packed adventure just keeps on rollin and I am the star the director the stage hands...you get the picture? Most likely not. Never mind. > How many of you have been slam > dunked into menopause? Until you have been here, you cannot possibly > know what the challanges are like. It has been an amazing, > frightening, no, terrifying is more accurate, experience. I am trying > to find all new ways to be the best that I can be as everything inside > has changed. menopause? Are you trying to tell me that you are the only female/? on the planet who is experiencing menopause? I am not a female, but I at least know that menopause is a NATURAL part of life for all human females. Does that include you? Personally, I have to deal with the fact that I am a senior citzen who still feels like a child inside. If I follow the same steps of my father and grandfather then I have less than 20 years to live. I have that to deal with. So, menopause? What is the big deal? Absolutely nothing!!! Just my opinion, but I am right as usual. :) I have come to the conclusion that you are incapable of understanding anything about anyone else. You, with out a shadow of a doubt, are a very self absorbed, insecure person. I will not bother to read your postings again. > > How many of you have been slam > > dunked into menopause? Until you have been here, you cannot possibly [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Just my opinion, but I am right as usual. :) She's been trolling these waters for the last few years. > I have come to the conclusion that you are incapable of understanding > anything about anyone else. You, with out a shadow of a doubt, are a > very self absorbed, insecure person. I will not bother to read your > postings again. > I have come to the conclusion that you are incapable of understanding > anything about anyone else. You, with out a shadow of a doubt, are a > very self absorbed, insecure person. I will not bother to read your > postings again. Good! People, or should I say slime, who constantly whine are a dime a dozen. They also die quite young, because they are fundamentally a bunch of total idiots. Menopause? What is the big deal? Absolutely nothing!!! It is called reality. Learn to deal with it! Just my opinion, but I am right as usual. :) > > I have come to the conclusion that you are incapable of understanding > > anything about anyone else. You, with out a shadow of a doubt, are a [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Menopause? What is the big deal? Absolutely nothing!!! It is called > reality. Learn to deal with it! Except that you are not female, so have NO clue... Think about getting age related impotence. To your wife, it's probably a blessing. Cheers! SignatureOm. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson > The book was free, I'm not a fool, and you are so very wrong to judge. > You have such limited information about my situation I don't know what |
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