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People who don't like fruit

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JohnH - 14 Jun 2005 22:17 GMT
Does anyone have any information on why some people don't like fruit. I read
once that it may be related to some sort of allergy. It just seems an
unhealthy preference. I'm writing this with my girlfriend in mind.
John
MMu - 16 Jun 2005 14:22 GMT
> Does anyone have any information on why some people don't like fruit. I
> read once that it may be related to some sort of allergy. It just seems an
> unhealthy preference. I'm writing this with my girlfriend in mind.
> John

what you are probably are thinking of is fructose intolerance or (the weaker
and more probable form) fructose malabsorption.. but the reasons why people
don't like certain foods can of course be a lot more complex than that.
Juhana Harju - 17 Jun 2005 06:45 GMT
:: "JohnH" <jh89s@yahoo.com.au> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
:: news:42af4967$1@clear.net.nz...
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:: reasons why people don't like certain foods can of course be a lot
:: more complex than that.

Fruits are very healthy but they can aggrevate yeast problems (candida
albicans) in susceptible people. In the macrobiotic diet eating fruits is
discouraged (which is stupid). Those are some reasons for avoiding them.
Fruits are high in antioxidant vitamins and phytochemicals and not eating
them means limiting the variety of phytochemicals one gets from the diet.
Which is obviously not good.

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nospam@aol.com - 17 Jun 2005 07:29 GMT
>:: "JohnH" <jh89s@yahoo.com.au> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
>:: news:42af4967$1@clear.net.nz...
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>them means limiting the variety of phytochemicals one gets from the diet.
>Which is obviously not good.

Why is it not good?  And what desirable phytochemicals are in fruit that are not
available from something else.  

Ora
Juhana Harju - 17 Jun 2005 07:50 GMT
:: On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 08:45:38 +0300, "Juhana Harju"
:: <shantigiri@despammed.com> wrote:
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:: Why is it not good?  And what desirable phytochemicals are in fruit
:: that are not available from something else.

Vegetables and fruits contain phytochemicals which a largely different; they
do not overlap much. You can check it from these charts:

http://www.tonytantillo.com/reference/fruitchart.html

http://www.tonytantillo.com/reference/vegchart.html

Somehow during the evolution the human body has learned to work in unison
with a large variety of phytochemicals. It is said that in the cellular
level there is much common in plants and humans and the protection that
phytochemicals give to plants, they give also to human cells. Getting a
large variety of phytochemicals provides a wider antioxidant protection.
Also many of the phytochemicals have other biological functions in the body
beside the antixidant effect. From various studies it is known that diets
with a large variety of plant based foods is associated with longevity.
Having fruits as part of the diet helps to achieve this larger variety.

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nospam@aol.com - 17 Jun 2005 16:07 GMT
>:: On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 08:45:38 +0300, "Juhana Harju"
>:: <shantigiri@despammed.com> wrote:
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>with a large variety of plant based foods is associated with longevity.
>Having fruits as part of the diet helps to achieve this larger variety.

The references you cited contain only a very few (out of hundreds) of
phytochemicals.  Actually they do overlap to a large extent.   The charts are
also not necessarily accurate.  For accurate information see:

http://www.ars-grin.gov/duke/

Ora
Juhana Harju - 17 Jun 2005 16:41 GMT
:: On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 09:50:17 +0300, "Juhana Harju"
:: <shantigiri@despammed.com> wrote:
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:: Ora

You are picky! I replied at the level you asked the question. It was a
conscious choice to post the links of that popular site.

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John Sankey - 17 Jun 2005 09:35 GMT
"Somehow during evolution the human body has learned to work in
unison with a large variety of phytochemicals."

Evolution is such a magnificent process!

Seed/fruit plants, which are immobile, evolved in concert with
animals (animal kingdom, that is) that move, for mutual benefit. The
plants that provided the maximum survival value to animals that ate
their fruits and therefore spread their seeds, in return for minimal
effort on their part, also survived best. It's truly natural that
fruits, then, should be of great value to us for nutrition.

A problem is that in the last few centuries, fruit has so much been
selected by people on the narrow basis of how little effort they have
to put into cultivating the plants that make them, rather than being
selected by plants that produce fruit that helps their eaters to
live. However, a lot of fruits are still pretty natural in this
respect - berries in particular for northern people like Juhana and
me.

I'm very cautious about a blanket statement, "doesn't like fruit",
given the immense variety of fruits there are that are available in
many fruit stores today (see http://sankey.ws/labels/index.html and
http://sankey.ws/livingfood.html for some examples). There is such a
tremendous variety of fruits available that I can't believe that
anyone wouldn't find a few they like.
John Sankey - 17 Jun 2005 17:11 GMT
I recommend caution when using Duke's data on the net. When I tried
to check out some of his fluoride data, ARS said he no longer works
for them and directed me to FNIC. FNIC in effect repudiated his data
as it applied to North America, their jurisdiction.
 
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