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q What foods that will not make me tired after lunch?

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Willoughby Bridge - 06 Jun 2005 02:42 GMT
I get very tried after lunch and I am looking to experiment with different
lunch foods to help make this situation better. Does anyone have any
specific suggestions on the types of foods that might not make me as tired
after lunch.  Conversely I'd appreciate any suggestions on the types of food
to avoid.  I know there are other factors besides diet, but I want to see
what can be accomplished by changing the food I eat at lunch.

TIA

David
Susan - 06 Jun 2005 02:49 GMT
> I get very tried after lunch and I am looking to experiment with different
> lunch foods to help make this situation better. Does anyone have any
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>
> David

Protein.  Like grilled chicken with a green salad.  No starch or sugar
or juice drinks.

Susan
Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com - 06 Jun 2005 02:49 GMT
As opposed to getting enough sleep?  LOL.
Willoughby Bridge - 06 Jun 2005 02:54 GMT
Enough sleep is not the problem.

> As opposed to getting enough sleep?  LOL.
Mr-Natural-Health - 06 Jun 2005 12:58 GMT
> As opposed to getting enough sleep?  LOL.

The dumbest comment made by a sleeping research physician that I have
seen in the last few days. Do you have any more of these gems, SBH?

Lifestyle management: Are research physicians ready and willing?

Ha, ... Hah, Ha!  You are an idiot Harris.  And, the MD behind your
names sure don't help to raise the level of your comments.

Just my opinion, but I am right as usual. :)
Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com - 06 Jun 2005 19:57 GMT
> As opposed to getting enough sleep?  LOL.
>>The dumbest comment made by a sleeping research physician that I have
seen in the last few days. Do you have any more of these gems, SBH? <<

COMMENT:

Gohde is being his usual thickheaded self, but what's new?  Sleepiness
during the daytime, which often manifests after meals (for reasons I
hope I don't have to explain), is common marker of poor quality sleep
or not enough sleep. If a person finds they get sleepy after lunch at
work, and this is worse the later in the work week they are, that
suggests buildup of a  sleep deficit over the work week, which is very
common. People who commonly sleep late Saturday and Sunday mornings,
more on the first day than the second, are probably building up a
deficit during the work week. Finally, if your worst problems occur at
lunch at work on Friday (assuming you work the standard 5 day week) but
never occur after lunch on Sunday, that's a very strong indictation
that food and food composition are not the real problem.

Gohde, get an adult to read the above and explain it to you.

SBH
TC - 06 Jun 2005 20:36 GMT
> > As opposed to getting enough sleep?  LOL.
> >>The dumbest comment made by a sleeping research physician that I have
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>
> SBH

You and Gohde should partner up. You'd make a good team. The blind
leading the blind.

TC
Mr-Natural-Health - 07 Jun 2005 14:29 GMT
> Gohde, get an adult to read the above and explain it to you.

Gee, I don't think you wrote that the first time did you Mr. Ice Cube?
Sorry, it doesn't answer the question asked now does it?  I could also
go into a long winded tirade on why the lack of regular exercise makes
people feel tired, too.

People with a sleep deficit tend to be falling asleep all day long.
Just thought that you might want to know. :)

Carbohydrates tend to make the people sleepy, while protein tends to
wake people or stimulates their brain.  Big meals with excessive amount
of junk fook carbohydrates like cake and pasteries tend to make people
sleepy.

Just thought that you might want to know, Dumb Dumb. :)
Laurie - 04 Aug 2005 22:44 GMT
> Carbohydrates tend to make the people sleepy, while protein tends to
> wake people or stimulates their brain.
   Guess what?  Glucose, a carbohydrate, is the 'fuel' for both brain and
muscle.  Protein is NOT used for energy in the brain.

> Big meals with excessive amount
> of junk fook carbohydrates like cake and pasteries tend to make people
> sleepy.
   Excessive concentrated starches do cause food-induced hypoglycemia and
do produce this effect; fruit sugars, also carbohydrates, do not.
   Read some biochemistry texts and learn what the differences are between
various types of 'carbohydrates'.

   Laurie
Susan - 05 Aug 2005 01:10 GMT
>     Guess what?  Glucose, a carbohydrate, is the 'fuel' for both brain and
> muscle.  Protein is NOT used for energy in the brain.

Guess what?  Protein is a source of glucose for the brain!  58% of it is
converted to glucose.

Susan
Visual Purple - 05 Aug 2005 17:00 GMT
Eat fruit, which is digested in the intestine, not in the stomach and
therefore requires the least amount of enery of any food to be
digested.  Thus, you will not be tired from digesting food.  You may
eat bananas if you wish, but do not eat dried fruit if you wish to
watch your weight.

However, eat about three - four ounces of protein with the fruit in
order to prevent glycemic highs and lows.  Soy protein and yoghurt are
your best best.

To your health,
VP
Susan - 05 Aug 2005 17:23 GMT
> Eat fruit, which is digested in the intestine, not in the stomach and
> therefore requires the least amount of enery of any food to be
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> order to prevent glycemic highs and lows.  Soy protein and yoghurt are
> your best best.

Or just eat the protein.  Digesting protein is less tiring because it
provides a steadier, longer supply of glucose than fruit.

Susan
Laurie - 15 Aug 2005 04:28 GMT
>>     Guess what?  Glucose, a carbohydrate, is the 'fuel' for both brain
>> and muscle.  Protein is NOT used for energy in the brain.
>
> Guess what?  Protein is a source of glucose for the brain!  58% of it is
> converted to glucose.
   Scientifically-credible citations??  All the biochem books I have read
seem to have missed this important discovery.

   Laurie
Pizza Girl - 06 Jun 2005 02:49 GMT
Experiment!
Try a few smaller meals. perhaps you have a glycemic bounce.
Try low carb meals. perhaps you have a glycemic bounce

> I get very tried after lunch and I am looking to experiment with different
> lunch foods to help make this situation better. Does anyone have any
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>
> David
TC - 06 Jun 2005 14:53 GMT
> I get very tried after lunch and I am looking to experiment with different
> lunch foods to help make this situation better. Does anyone have any
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>
> David

Simple. Cut out all refined carbs. Eat a lunch with 4 to 5 oz (or
thereabouts) of meat, chicken, pork or fish (etc), with all the salad
you want, a side of veggies, (go easy on any potatoes). No pasta. No
bread. Don't hold back on fats. A good dollop of butter on the veggies
will make it taste sooooo good. Use a regular salad dressing, the diet
crap is low-fat and *high-sugar*. Drink water instead of soda. Easy on
any caffeinated product. *No dessert.*

You will have energy you never knew you had. And you will be satiated
for 4 to 5 or more hours. The temptation to have a sugary snack halfway
thru the afternoon will be significantly reduced. Well, maybe not so
much in the first week or two, but if you eat like this on a regular
basis the carb craving will go away.

TC
John Sankey - 06 Jun 2005 16:48 GMT
When I was a student, and had 4 hours of lectures every morning,
I had the same problem of either falling asleep about hour 3 or
of running out of energy before the end of hour 4.

I found the quantity of food I ate for breakfast to be the
primary determinant of success. Focusing on protein and fat
rather than carbs helped me as well.
 
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