From: "Robert Cohen" <notmilk@e...>
Date: Thu Mar 24, 2005 8:24 am
Subject: West Wing, Ice Cream, & Parkinson's Disease
West Wing, Ice Cream, & Parkinson's Disease
PREDICTION: Last night's episode (March 23, 2005) of
"West Wing" will earn Alan Alda an Emmy Award. Life
in the White House is magnificently portrayed each
Wednesday night during prime time. Last evening President
Jed Bartlett, portrayed by Martin Sheen, shared a scene
with Alda that will forever remain a NotMilk moment.
There they were, late in the show, two political
adversaries finding common ground in the White House
kitchen, pigging out by dipping teaspoons into four
5-gallon tubs of various ice creams. Sheen to Alda:
"Here, try the pistachio." Two actors portrayed the
most powerful men in America sharing a snack that
represented a dangerously unhealthful irony.
In the story line, President Bartlett's second term is
coming to an end, as the symptoms of our TV president's
Parkinson Disease accelerate...which brings us to the
March, 2005 issue of the Journal Neurology.
(2005 Mar 22;64(6):1047-51)
CONSIDER: Twelve pounds of milk are required to produce
one pound of ice cream.
JOURNAL OF NEUROLOGY STUDY TITLE: Consumption of milk and
calcium in midlife and the future risk of Parkinson disease.
STUDY OBJECTIVE: To examine the relation between milk and
calcium intake in midlife and the risk of Parkinson disease.
METHODS: From 1965 to 1968, 7,504 men (ages 45 to 68) were
studied for 30 years (1995-1998) in the Honolulu Heart Program.
RESULTS: During the follow-up phase of the study, 128 subjects
developed Parkinson's Disease. Incidences of Parkinson's
Disease were compared to milk intake. Researchers found no
relationship between calcium intake and Parkinson's Disease
(from milk or non-milk sources). However, researchers did find
a 2.3-fold increase of Parkinson's Disease in the high-milk
intake group when compared to the group of men who consumed
no milk.
SCIENTISTS CONCLUDE: "Findings suggest that milk intake is
associated with an increased risk of Parkinson disease."
ADDITIONAL SCIENTIFIC SUPPORT: Research suggests that cow's
milk lactoferrins are responsible for the onset of
Parkinson's Disease:
"These data suggest that lactoferrin receptors on vulnerable
neurons may increase intraneuronal iron levels and contribute
to the degeneration of nigral dopaminergic neurons in
Parkinson disease."
Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences,
October, 1995, 10;92(21):9603-7.
"These results suggest that lactotransferrin may
participate actively in the mechanism of neuronal
degeneration in Parkinson's disease."
Acta Neuropathology, 1996;91(6):566-72.
"According to these findings, disruption in the expression
of these proteins in the brain is probably one of the
important causes of the altered brain iron metabolism in
age-related neurodegenerative diseases, including
Parkinson's Disease..."
Brain Research Review, 1998 Aug;27(3):257-67.
Robert Cohen
http://www.notmilk.com
gehayw@hotmail.com - 25 Mar 2005 05:09 GMT
What about colostrum which is claimed to possess many health benefit
but contains much more lactoferrins than milk?
banmilk@hotmail.com - 25 Mar 2005 18:11 GMT
colostrum is milk.
It is the first milk produced after birth.
gehayw@hotmail.com - 27 Mar 2005 05:24 GMT
True, but it still differs substantially from conventional cow's milk.
Anyone with anything further on the possible hazards of colostrum,
please comment. I need to know whether to discontinue the colostrum
that I am currently taking. Thanks.
George Lagergren - 27 Mar 2005 05:53 GMT
<gehayw@hotmail.com>
> True, but it still differs substantially from conventional cow's milk.
> Anyone with anything further on the possible hazards of colostrum,
> please comment. I need to know whether to discontinue the colostrum
> that I am currently taking. Thanks.
Question: Does colostrum from cows still have a heavy, thick
casein protein content as with regular cow's milk?
Alf Christophersen - 27 Mar 2005 19:17 GMT
> Question: Does colostrum from cows still have a heavy, thick
>casein protein content as with regular cow's milk?
Thicker :-) Protein amount declines with time from the time the calf
was born.
And human colostrum is very rich.
By the way, casein is not a problem unless you have a digestive
problem. In case, get that fixed because otherwise you will experience
other problems too.
Lack of HCl may be one reason, lack of proteolytic enzymes, like
peptidases and proteinases, may also be a problem.
Have a pancreas checkup. Maybe pancreas outlet is blocked?
Rene - 27 Mar 2005 07:46 GMT
> True, but it still differs substantially from conventional cow's milk.
> Anyone with anything further on the possible hazards of colostrum,
> please comment. I need to know whether to discontinue the colostrum
> that I am currently taking. Thanks.
I have read that colostrum molecules are so large you can only absorb them
if you have leaky gut syndrome and so may be a waste of money.
Ren?
Alf Christophersen - 27 Mar 2005 19:17 GMT
>I have read that colostrum molecules are so large you can only absorb them
>if you have leaky gut syndrome and so may be a waste of money.
If your stomach is ok, it all ends up as free amino acids anyway.
But some are deficient in some specific peptidases, leaving some few
oligopeptides intact, and thus get problems since that will lead to
leakage from stomach of certain peptides with signal function.
But the usual reason is problem with pancreas or not low enough pH to
activate the sour protein degradation enzymes..
Not sure about what specific enzymes are lacking in people having
coelics or other casein oligopeptide challenged diseases.
Having a normal army of enzymes, no peptides will never pass into
intestines.
What may be a problem with milk is not protein, but fat composition.
But that is a matter of how the animal is fed. Free range fed cows
having plenty of normal hay/grass, usually have a high portion of
monounsaturated fat in 2-position of fats, while barn-fed usually have
mostly omega-6 there, depending how much of it pass through by
bacterial flora.
Feeding cow with nerve tissue may let DHA pass intact and give an
increased amount of DHA in nerve cells and increased rate of
neuroketal formation in brain, modifying proteins and possibly
inactivation of enzymes that are important for nerves. (Could in
fact,theoretically be the "infectious" agent of prion diseases, if the
observed prions are combined neuroketal and fructosylated products of
amino acid decarboxylases. Amino acid decarboxylases are different
decarboxylases that convert excitotoxic amino acids like glutamate
into excitoinhibitory molecules like GABA, taurine (from cysteinyl
sulfinate), beta-alanine (from aspartate), polyamine monomer from SAM
etc.
The excitotoxic effect of certain amino acid could also be enhanced by
activated cells in brain producing HOCl (a kind of analogue to
myeloperoxidase of neutrophil granylocytes or eosinophil peroxidase
from eosinophils. When HOCl attacks an ordinary amino acid, it is
quickly degraded to an aldehyde, HCl, CO2 and water. Reaction with
taurine or other non-carboxylcontaining amines gives more stable
chloramines that has feedback function on immune system. Glycine eg.
produce HCHO and is probably responsible for the HCHO formation when
aspartame is used in too high doses since the freed aspartate may be
decarboxylated to beta-alanine which is a strong taurine transport
inhibitor and is used experimentally to induce taurine deficiency in
animals normally producing lot of taurine. By removing taurine, HOCl
is then reacting with amino acids which produce in turn the aldehydes
responsible for the observed damages. (By the way, theoretically this
may be the way homocysteinemia may do harm,by function as an HOCl or
HOBr scavanger instead of taurine or spermidine/polyamines)
Pizza Girl - 30 Mar 2005 18:17 GMT
If everybody's stomache were OK we wouldn't have 99% of the disease in the
world. That point is totally moot.
> >I have read that colostrum molecules are so large you can only absorb them
> >if you have leaky gut syndrome and so may be a waste of money.
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> may be the way homocysteinemia may do harm,by function as an HOCl or
> HOBr scavanger instead of taurine or spermidine/polyamines)
Rene - 25 Mar 2005 18:42 GMT
> From: "Robert Cohen" <notmilk@e...>
> Date: Thu Mar 24, 2005 8:24 am
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> CONSIDER: Twelve pounds of milk are required to produce
> one pound of ice cream.
Hmmm. I make my own ice cream and it seems that I get the same amount of
ice cream out, as the milk and cream I put in. Go figure.
Ren?
> JOURNAL OF NEUROLOGY STUDY TITLE: Consumption of milk and
> calcium in midlife and the future risk of Parkinson disease.
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> Robert Cohen
> http://www.notmilk.com
Pizza Girl - 25 Mar 2005 19:24 GMT
You must not make it the "economical" way like the dairies though. All
powdered product from last product overflow. This is necessary because they
sold the fat to the Atkin's factories...LOL This is how the competition
stays out of the free enterprise and ruins the market.
> > CONSIDER: Twelve pounds of milk are required to produce
> > one pound of ice cream.
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>
> Reni
Cubit - 25 Mar 2005 23:58 GMT
If they are including ice cream in their measurement of milk, the subject
would have been ingesting a lot of sugar with their milk product.
> From: "Robert Cohen" <notmilk@e...>
> Date: Thu Mar 24, 2005 8:24 am
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> Robert Cohen
> http://www.notmilk.com