From: "Robert Cohen" <notmilk@e...>
Date: Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:40 am
Subject: Dicey Rice
Dicey Rice
"How many times can a man turn his head,
Pretending he just doesn't see?"
-Bob Dylan, 1962
Ventria Pharmaceutical company has genetically engineered
human genes into grains. Ventria has combined human lysozyme
with rice, and have applied to the United States Department
of agriculture for permits to plant 204 acres of their
genetically modified organism (GMO) this spring in Missouri.
One unforeseen problem with new GMO crops is that the
winds spread new genes to other plants producing
unexpected results. Dylan sang, "The answer my
friend, is blowing in the wind..."
Ventria attempted to plant their human/rice crop in
California in the Spring of 2004, but the publicity and
subsequent protest uprooted their plans. This time,
their strategy is to keep things low key. Very few
Americans are aware of what is going on. That is, until
this very moment.
In 2002, a team of researchers determined that this
new science fiction rice had antibiotic-like properties
when fed to baby chickens. Their work was published in
the Journal of Nutrition (2002, 132: 1214-1218).
The Missouri Department of Agriculture awaits your comments.
Please take this opportunity to show the "Show Me" state
that human DNA should not be implanted into rice.
Email: aginfo@m...
Attn: Fred Ferrell, Director
Imagine the consequences?
Combine one part rice with Condoleezza, and you'll produce
a hybrid plant the forever seeks out weapons of mass
destruction that go snap, crackle, and pop.
Combine one part rice with John Kerry and you get a
bitter grain with Heinz-sight.
Combine one part rice with Supreme Court Justice Clarence
Thomas, and you get a grain with a soft black exterior
containing a hard white interior.
Combine one part rice with one part Donald Rumsfeld and
the outside of the grain has an easily penetrable exterior
coating that you have, not a coating that you wish for.
Combine one part rice with one part Bill Clinton, and
you end up with the plant kingdom version of Cialis.
Combine one part rice with Bill gates, and you create
a virtually inedible rice. Each grain requires 64 bytes.
Combine one part rice with Barry Bonds, and you create
a new grain that denies it was genetically engineered.
Robert Cohen
http://www.notmilk.com
Jeff - 24 Mar 2005 02:23 GMT
The fact of the matter is that people have been doing genetic engineering
for millenia, ever since man first started breeding and selecting plants.
The only difference now is that humans are able to select the genes much
more carefully.
I will take changing one known gene at a time rather than who knows how many
genes when different varieties of plants are crossed.
Jeff
bcpg@canada.com - 24 Mar 2005 03:01 GMT
"The fact of the matter is that people have been doing genetic
engineering
for millenia"
.
REALLY!!!? Is that a fact?
Then perhaps you point out down through history when flounder genes
were spliced into tomatoes; human genes into rice?
Jeff - 25 Mar 2005 02:49 GMT
> "The fact of the matter is that people have been doing genetic
> engineering
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Then perhaps you point out down through history when flounder genes
> were spliced into tomatoes; human genes into rice?
New genetic combinations have been made by humans every since they started
doing artificial selection and cross-breeding. I would much rather have a
plant with only one known genetic change than a plant with tons of different
genetic changes you get when you do cross-breeding.
We have been eating GM foods for several years now, without any sign of
adverse reactions.
Jeff
Pizza Girl - 25 Mar 2005 03:21 GMT
LOLOLOLOL..no adverse reactions? How can you tell?
> We have been eating GM foods for several years now, without any sign of
> adverse reactions.
>
> Jeff
Pizza Girl - 25 Mar 2005 04:07 GMT
Where are your peer reviewed studies for your bold statements?
>> We have been eating GM foods for several years now, without any sign of
> adverse reactions.
>
> Jeff
Jeff - 26 Mar 2005 16:23 GMT
> Where are your peer reviewed studies for your bold statements?
>
>>> We have been eating GM foods for several years now, without any sign of
>> adverse reactions.
>>
>> Jeff
It is considered appropriate to put your comments below the comments of the
previous poster, to make following the thread easier.
Below are three cites about the safety of GM foods.
You can find additional ones by going to scholar.google.com and search for
genetically modified foods.
Jeff
http://www.blackwellpublishing.com/plantgm/tpj1119.pdf
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=1
1344340&dopt=Citation
http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/reprint/318/7183/581
MMu - 26 Mar 2005 14:56 GMT
> The fact of the matter is that people have been doing genetic engineering
> for millenia, ever since man first started breeding and selecting plants.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> I will take changing one known gene at a time rather than who knows how
> many genes when different varieties of plants are crossed.
Genetically modified? Yes, true- we are eating genetically modified food for
a very long time already.. or since homo sapiens started to settle and grow
plants most probably.
Every domesticated animal and every plant we "optimized" and crossed with
other plants was in fact genetically modified by us.
But the big difference is: until now we could not cross a dung beetle with a
rice plant..
Jeff - 26 Mar 2005 16:26 GMT
>> The fact of the matter is that people have been doing genetic engineering
>> for millenia, ever since man first started breeding and selecting plants.
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> But the big difference is: until now we could not cross a dung beetle with
> a rice plant..
While we can import genes from animals to plants, we can;t insert most of
the genes of an animal. And, genes have been known to cross species. Viruses
and bacteria have been doing this almost forever, at very small rates.
Jeff