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Medical Forum / General / Nutrition / March 2005Feeling Hungry?
Hi, All: Should I heed my stomach every time I feel hungry? Seriously...I ask 'cause I get hungry at the oddest times! Like just yesterday, I just was hungry just an hour and a half after my chicken salad! Now I know it's salad, but there was 25g of protein in there! And I didn't do nothing but sit at the desk.... TIA! :: Hi, All: :: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] :: know it's salad, but there was 25g of protein in there! And I :: didn't do nothing but sit at the desk.... 25g protein = 100 calories. So, saying your salad had at least 100 calories ain't saying much. if you weigh 400 lbs then just moving about during the day will place a significant energy demand on your body. Whether you should heed your stomach depends on how much you're eating and where that level is compared to your maintenances needs, and your other goals in terms of weight loss or gain, etc. > :: Hi, All: > :: [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > where that level is compared to your maintenances needs, and your other > goals in terms of weight loss or gain, etc. Protein is not a proper measure of how filling food items ought to be. The body needs carbohydrates, fat, fibre, etc. and although protein might be your focus if you work out, it only partially affects your appetite. When I want to put an end to appetite after a meal, I just have an apple or two. Roy  SignatureRoy Schestowitz http://schestowitz.com :: Roger Zoul wrote: :: [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] :: affects your appetite. When I want to put an end to appetite after a :: meal, I just have an apple or two. A lot of people here think protein suppresses appetite. There have been studies that claim that as well. > A lot of people here think protein suppresses appetite. There have been > studies that claim that as well. Yes indeed. Here's one: * http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstra ct&list_uids=14557793 The significance of protein in food intake and body weight regulation. SUMMARY: Protein is more satiating than carbohydrate and fat in the short term, over 24 h and in the long term. Thermogenesis plays a role in this satiety effect, but the role of satiety hormones still needs to be elucidated. > > A lot of people here think protein suppresses appetite. There have been > > studies that claim that as well. > > Yes indeed. Here's one: > > * http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstra ct&list_uids=14557793 > The significance of protein in food intake and body weight regulation. > > SUMMARY: Protein is more satiating than carbohydrate and fat in the > short term, over 24 h and in the long term. Thermogenesis plays a role > in this satiety effect, but the role of satiety hormones still needs to > be elucidated. Hmm! I do know that having a steak seems much more satisfying than even four times the weight in pasta, but I kinda thought that that was in some significant part due to the oil/fat involved. > Hmm! I do know that having a steak seems much more satisfying than > even four times the weight in pasta, but I kinda thought that that was > in some significant part due to the oil/fat involved. The role of fat is unclear to me in satiation. We find it palatable but don't seem to have any taste receptors for it. The one thing that i did find that make sense is that protein with fiber and fat takes longer to digest so it is more filling. > The role of fat is unclear to me in satiation. We find it palatable but > don't seem to have any taste receptors for it. Hmm, interesting! Never thought of that...but then again, we don't have a taste for protein, either...plain beef or chicken or anything is just boring to chew...that fat really does do something for it! > The one thing that i did find that make sense is that protein with fiber > and fat takes longer to digest so it is more filling. Well, yes, I guess it just sits in the stomach longer or something...? I'm trying to eat healthy, but it's been driving me crazy! Not just feeling the munchies, wanting to nosh -- but actually feeling empty, just short of actual hunger! Nuts. > Hmm, interesting! Never thought of that...but then again, we don't > have a taste for protein, either...plain beef or chicken or anything is > just boring to chew...that fat really does do something for it! fat it the solvent for most of the gustatory substances.. very lean food tastes more bland than food with higher fat content (with the same ammount of carbohydrates). So what are the consequences of not eating when hungry? I mean, does the body automatically burn fat, or does it seek out the muscle first, or what? I don't mean starvation; I mean just like, at worst, skipping a meal (or, actually, even "fasting" for a whole day, say). IOW, any harmful consequences? Thanks again! > So what are the consequences of not eating when hungry? The body has excess fat and nutrients. Appetite is a 'mechniam' which ensures you have regular 'input'. > I mean, does > the body automatically burn fat, or does it seek out the muscle first, > or what? Muscles are not broken down if you skip a meal or two. > I don't mean starvation; I mean just like, at worst, skipping > a meal (or, actually, even "fasting" for a whole day, say). Perhaps it depends on your physique. > IOW, any harmful consequences? > > Thanks again! Some talk about the benefits of fasting once in a while, but I never 'bought' it. I think that the most healthy and natural thing to do is submit to your body and eat when it tells you to. Supressing hunger is possibly not much different from sleep deprivation, which is chronic. Roy SignatureRoy Schestowitz http://schestowitz.com > Muscles are not broken down if you skip a meal or two. please provide citations for that. > Hi, All: > Should I heed my stomach every time I feel hungry? Seriously...I ask > 'cause I get hungry at the oddest times! Like just yesterday, I just > was hungry just an hour and a half after my chicken salad! Now I know > it's salad, but there was 25g of protein in there! And I didn't do > nothing but sit at the desk.... Do you take supplemental digestive enzymes? If not, use a search engine for these words: "digestive enzymes." > "NYC XYZ" <jack_foreigner@yahoo.com> wrote >> Hi, All: [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > If not, use a search engine for these words: "digestive > enzymes." OK, I may regret this, but I'll bite: what is the connection between the OP's symptoms and "supplemental digestive enzymes"? David > > "NYC XYZ" <jack_foreigner@yahoo.com> wrote > >> Hi, All: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > OK, I may regret this, but I'll bite: what is the connection between the > OP's symptoms and "supplemental digestive enzymes"? <crickets chirping> David David Cohen wrote: >> "NYC XYZ" <jack_foreigner@yahoo.com> wrote >>> Hi, All: [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > David There is a correlation David. You see, studies have shown that when symptoms were exposed to large quantities of digestive enzymes, there was a fubar effect noticed. By large quantities, I mean 220, 230...whatever it takes. Signature-Larry > David Cohen wrote: > >> "NYC XYZ" <jack_foreigner@yahoo.com> wrote [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > fubar effect noticed. By large quantities, I mean 220, 230...whatever it > takes. Ooooo, fubar effect! I like when that happens. David Yes, You should never be hungry, in fat once you are hungry your body is already cannibalizing. if 25 grams is not doing it hen step it up. Your body should be able to handle 50grams a meal. Also you might add more carbs, the protein will not necessarily crave your hunger. > Hi, All: > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > TIA! > Hi, All: > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > TIA! I am type 2 diabetic - depending upon what else was in the salad I may have added to whole grain rye crackers - sometime after 2 1/2 hours later I would can have a snack of something like the 2 rye crackers and a piece of fruit. we are all different and have different needs. if you don't know much about nutrition and would like help with your diet a registered dietitian can be a big help. SignatureTom Exercise Today = Life Tomorrow Information you can trust from the diabetes experts... Your American Diabetes Association http://www.diabetes.org/home.jsp the American Diabetes Association's Message Boards http://community.diabetes.org/n/pfx/forum.aspx?webtag=amdiabetesz&nav=index |
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