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Cubit - 27 Feb 2005 00:37 GMT
http://www.heartfixer.com/Nanobacterium/NB%20-%20Overview.htm

Kidney Stones?

CVD?
adam_becker_sr@yahoo.com - 27 Feb 2005 05:48 GMT
The way the article started out, telling me that most bacteria have a
diameter of 1/1000 of a meter, put me off.  (No they don't! that's
silly.)  Yeah, maybe it's just a typo, but a telling one.

Read the debunking at
 http://drcranton.com/nanobacteria.htm

Alleged Nanobacteria do not Cause
Calcification of Arterial Plaque

by Elmer M. Cranton, M.D.

Copyright © 2005 Elmer M Cranton, M.D.

Pathologic calcification of atherosclerotic plaque, dental plaque and
kidney stones has been attributed to a previously unreported and
putative bacterial species, Nanobacterium sanguineum, by Finnish
researchers, Kajander and Ciftcioglu.(1) That work has since been
duplicated by scientists at NIH, who made identical observations, but
concluded that biomineralization was caused by the nonliving,
nucleating activities of self-propagating microcrystalline centers
(nidi), which form crystaloid macromolecules of calcium carbonate
phosphate apatite.(2)

These submicroscopic (submicron) crystals could be transferred in a
deceptively life-like manner through serial dilutions using  techniques
similar to those used for subcultures, while retaining their
crystalline ability to grow into calcific concretions at physiologic
pH. Six serial 1:10 dilutions were transferred to fresh culture media,
and were observed to repeatedly propagate as tiny coccoid appearing or
dome-shaped crystals. Photographs of these non-living structures taken
under electron microscopy were identical in appearance to those
previously published by the Finnish researchers and mistakenly labeled
as "Nanobacteria."

much more

Adam Becker
Cubit - 27 Feb 2005 20:02 GMT
Thank you for the debunking.

Alas, I am quite disappointed.  I was imagining having my kidney stones
dissolved away.

The way the article started out, telling me that most bacteria have a
diameter of 1/1000 of a meter, put me off.  (No they don't! that's
silly.)  Yeah, maybe it's just a typo, but a telling one.

Read the debunking at
 http://drcranton.com/nanobacteria.htm

Alleged Nanobacteria do not Cause
Calcification of Arterial Plaque

by Elmer M. Cranton, M.D.

Copyright ? 2005 Elmer M Cranton, M.D.

Pathologic calcification of atherosclerotic plaque, dental plaque and
kidney stones has been attributed to a previously unreported and
putative bacterial species, Nanobacterium sanguineum, by Finnish
researchers, Kajander and Ciftcioglu.(1) That work has since been
duplicated by scientists at NIH, who made identical observations, but
concluded that biomineralization was caused by the nonliving,
nucleating activities of self-propagating microcrystalline centers
(nidi), which form crystaloid macromolecules of calcium carbonate
phosphate apatite.(2)

These submicroscopic (submicron) crystals could be transferred in a
deceptively life-like manner through serial dilutions using  techniques
similar to those used for subcultures, while retaining their
crystalline ability to grow into calcific concretions at physiologic
pH. Six serial 1:10 dilutions were transferred to fresh culture media,
and were observed to repeatedly propagate as tiny coccoid appearing or
dome-shaped crystals. Photographs of these non-living structures taken
under electron microscopy were identical in appearance to those
previously published by the Finnish researchers and mistakenly labeled
as "Nanobacteria."

much more

Adam Becker
 
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