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janetconti1970@yahoo.com - 22 Feb 2005 01:05 GMT
Anyone know of good home remedies for people sensitive to fiber?  White
rice is helpful to me but I'm wondering what else would be.  Beano is
kind of pricey and you have to take it at the beginning of the meal,
which could get complicated because you don't always know what food is
going to cause a problem.  I've read about using blackberry root and I
wonder if using blackberries too could be good.
John Que - 22 Feb 2005 07:24 GMT
> Anyone know of good home remedies for people sensitive to fiber?  White
> rice is helpful to me but I'm wondering what else would be.  Beano is
> kind of pricey and you have to take it at the beginning of the meal,
> which could get complicated because you don't always know what food is
> going to cause a problem.  I've read about using blackberry root and I
> wonder if using blackberries too could be good.

Blackberries have seeds that can cause all sorts of problem in some
people. The home made juice is a traditional and effective remedy for
diarrhea.

Is the problem fiber or is it flatuence? Avoid the beans.
Alf Christophersen - 22 Feb 2005 15:29 GMT
>Anyone know of good home remedies for people sensitive to fiber?  White
>rice is helpful to me but I'm wondering what else would be.  Beano is

Sensitivity of fiber is a transitional state seen in almost everyone
that has been living for a very long time on highly refined food free
of fibers. Start slowly with just a few grams of fiber daily, then
increase carefully until your body has developed a bacterial flora
that can cope with it and your body otherwise accept them. Starting
with high doses only feed certain other bacteria that break them down
and produce lots of farts, probably stinking such ones if your food
contain some sulphur and your bacteria can convert organic sulphur to
H2S or mercaptanes or ethanethiol. Especially the last one is really
stinking and is sensible in a dilution of 1 to 10 millions if not
more. (produced natural in sheep by accident fed rotten cabbage)
herbwormwood - 22 Feb 2005 16:56 GMT
>> Anyone know of good home remedies for people sensitive to fiber?  White
>> rice is helpful to me but I'm wondering what else would be.  Beano is
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> stinking and is sensible in a dilution of 1 to 10 millions if not
> more. (produced natural in sheep by accident fed rotten cabbage)

Also what kind of fibre are you having now? White rice does not contain much
nutitrition other than carbohydrate. Are you taking supplement fibre such as
Wheat bran?
Natural forms of fibre are probably better, which can be obtained in whole
grains, and fruit and vegetables (cooked as well as raw). Pulses can provoke
wind or gas but you don't need to eat pulses unless you are a vegetarian.
Fibre is a natural part of food and only has been removed from western diets
in recent times.  I have a chinese friend who said traditional British food
gave her all sorts of digestive problems, constipation, flatulence, etc. She
needed to eat stir fried food because the chinese way of stir fry  cooking is
very fast and neither overcooks nor undercooks the food.
You could also try sprouting, this is where you get pulses and seeds such as
mung bans and sprout them to make salad type veg. They are high in fibre and
very easy to digest.
janetconti1970@yahoo.com - 22 Feb 2005 19:24 GMT
Thanks for the responses.  I know white rice doesn't have much
nutritional value, but I eat it because it allows me to handle other
foods that do have lots of nutritional value but also lots of
fiber-e.g. blueberries, flax seeds, apples, cantaloupe, spinach,
broccoli.  For years I've been eating 5-6 servings of fruits and
vegetables plus nuts plus the occasional ground flax seeds or beans
when I think I can handle them.  But it has never become easy for me to
handle these foods.  They can all cause occasional diarrhea and
flatulence even when I try to limit fiber intake.  The problems aren't
severe, but just annoying and slightly embarrassing.  Further
complicating the problem is that I can only tolerate a very limited
amount of lactose.  AND I drink caffeine.  I'm not really willing to
give up any of these things permanently because they're all good for
me.  But maybe this blackberry juice can substitute for one of my 5-6
servings.  I'll look to see if they sell it at the health food store.
I'm wondering if it is sold in little one ounce bottles or if it is
sold just like other kinds of juice.
John Que - 24 Feb 2005 08:12 GMT
> Thanks for the responses.  I know white rice doesn't have much
> nutritional value, but I eat it because it allows me to handle other
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> I'm wondering if it is sold in little one ounce bottles or if it is
> sold just like other kinds of juice.

NO. Do NOT use blackberry juice that way.
You need to find the underlying cause of your problem.
Apparently, it is persistant? Keep a journal.
Do you take huge doses of vitamin C. Or eat
lots of sorbitol candies? Anyone in the family have
Celaic disease? Have tried no milk products for
a time?

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Alf Christophersen - 23 Feb 2005 18:14 GMT
>Also what kind of fibre are you having now? White rice does not contain much
>nutitrition other than carbohydrate. Are you taking supplement fibre such as
>Wheat bran?

I make bread from whole and rough rye meal. Added to that wheat
bran,whole barley and several other things

And by the way, I haven't said I have oversensitivity to fibers.The
one I commented had so.
Try to rather comment the letter I did comment unless you think I eat
too little fibers.

AndI also eat a lot of beans and pulses,together with fish and some
times meat,but not very often because it is difficult to get meat low
in omega-6 acids and high in monounsaturated fats, except in autumn if
I buy new slaughtered lambs. On Iceland, on the other side, lamb and
sheep is grazing in the mountains all year round and is never or at
least seldomly fed commercial diets made on wheat and corn,rich in
omega-6s and making them kind of poisonous for people sensible to
omega-6 acids, like people with chronic inflammations, like rheumatics
and asthmatic patients. Changing fatty acid profile to less omega-6,
more omega-3 and huge increases in monounsaturated fats make the meat
much less provocative for a liver where cells are diseased and cannot
form phospholipids correctly, partly because the enzyme is inhibited
by substrate analogues like transfats which do bind tightly to the
enzymes and form products slowly, thus letting PUFA go undbound
directly into blood where they are quickly converted to isoketals or.
eicosanoids, or are recycled into saturated fats by beta-oxidation.
 
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