> After an isolated blood test gave a sodium level reading of 133, my father
> has been advised to increase his salt intake. I understand that normal
> sodium levels are 135 to 145. Is 133 too low??
>
> (He is aged 96, more or less chair bound, diabetic and overweight but with
> normal blood pressure)
There are a lot of factors that go on with sodium levels. The interpretation
is based on clinical grounds. Dehydration may be associated with low, normal
or high sodium levels.
Sodium levels generally reflect the body water content and usually not the
sodium content. What that means is that the body has too much water diluting
out the sodium. That can happen for a variety of reasons from SIADH, to
decreasing effective circulating volume such heart failure or kidney failure
and other causes.
The person would not be advised to take more sodium as that would cause more
water retention. They treat it with diuretics to get rid of the excess
water.
What is really needed is a urine sodium level that would reflect as to what
is happening in the body.
A urine sodium level of 15 meQ or greater would reflect sodium excretion and
one with a lower level would reflect sodium retention. In a normal person
with a low sodium as when one drinks too much water the urine sodium would
be low reflecting water excretion. A high urine sodium in a person with a
low blood sodium level reflects inappropriate sodium retention as in SIADH
or primary, secondary aldosteronism.
Edema is important for clinical grounds as well.
Robert - 15 Feb 2005 20:11 GMT
"Robert" <RobertJ@hotmail.com> wrote in message
That last statement should say primary, secondary hypoaldosteronism. A good
example of that would be adrenal gland insufficiency where the sodium is low
along with a high potassium.
Anti-diuretic hormones regulates the water and aldosterone regulates the
sodium. In short the body regulates its own water and sodium levels through
kidney modulation of retention or excretion.
enorehtonatey - 15 Feb 2005 20:48 GMT
>> After an isolated blood test gave a sodium level reading of 133, my
>> father
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> or primary, secondary aldosteronism.
> Edema is important for clinical grounds as well.
Robert, I'm very grateful that you took the time to write such a full reply.
It sounds like you know what you are talking about. Based on what you say,
In the light of what you say, perhaps I should approach his doctor asking if
a urine test would be possible and questioning the nurses advice re
increasing dietary salt.
Robert - 15 Feb 2005 21:35 GMT
> >> After an isolated blood test gave a sodium level reading of 133, my
> >> father
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> a urine test would be possible and questioning the nurses advice re
> increasing dietary salt.
I would approach the doctor on that and sometimes the cause of the water
retention or dehydration is obvious and a urine sodium might not even be
warranted. The above are generalizations and it might be that a salt pill
might help under the circumstances. Without knowing the complete picture of
physical and history and I am not a doctor so all I am saying is that
approach the doctor and have some rational or understanding of the cause of
the hyponatremia. It will be a life long challenge from here on out so the
understanding needs to be there on how to treat it.
You mention diabetes and if the blood glucose is high the water is lost in
the urine as a result of an osmotic diuresis causing dehydration and because
of the high glucose the sodium is lowered as the water is drawn into the
vascular space. This with time results in the loss of water and the loss of
sodium over the long run.
enorehtonatey - 16 Feb 2005 19:07 GMT
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> I would approach the doctor on that and sometimes the cause of the water
> retention or dehydration is obvious and a urine sodium might not even be
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> of
> sodium over the long run.
The blood glucose has been high - around 12 to 14, since he stopped taking
gliclazide (an "oral hypoglycemic medication" which is a sulphonylurea I
understand) around a month ago, so it is interesting that you mention this
as a possibly relevant. He is back on a reduced dose of the Glicazide now so
if that is continued, it will be interesting to see how that affects blood
sodium. Thanks again.
(footnote: He stopped the Gliclazide as it seemed to be having an adverse
effect - he had quite extreme symptoms of hypoglycemia and was as alert,
strong and lucid as normal as usual almost as soon as he stopped it. Back on
it now today, it looks like the symptoms are returning. I hope we can get a
Doctor to take an interest and hope to buy a glucose meter soon to build up
a better picture of what is happening - or to eliminate glucose levels from
the problem)