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John Sankey - 14 Feb 2005 14:32 GMT
I'm not sure if this is the right group to raise this, because I've
no proof that it affects our nutrition, but it might.

When I was growing up, our food was alive. If we wanted sprouts for
our salad, we put grocery-bought pot barley into a bowl with a bit of
water, and grew them. Same thing with beans, and many seeds (I
remember sesame in particular). Today, the only grains I can find
that are still alive are wheat. Even health food stores here say they
can't get live barley or rice any more.

If you bought fruit when I was young, and planted the seeds, they
grew - we had a small indoor forest of citrus fruit, date and fig
trees. Today, I have a selection of over a dozen pots with various
fruit seeds in them - zero response.

For years, I made banana bread for Christmas. (I don't mean banana
pound cake, but real yeast bread.) Since Christmas 2003, my bread
stays as doorstops - the yeast is killed. (Of course I checked yeast,
all other ingredients, and tried every brand of bananas I could find
from different retail stores.)

Does anyone else care about this? Is there a better group to discuss
it?
Rene - 14 Feb 2005 21:51 GMT
> I'm not sure if this is the right group to raise this, because I've
> no proof that it affects our nutrition, but it might.
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> Does anyone else care about this? Is there a better group to discuss
> it?

I have a great email group you can join and discuss this:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/beyondprice/

This list is small, but when new members join and have questions, it can
really get going.  Some members are extremely knowledgeable.

Ren?
Phil Scott - 15 Feb 2005 08:50 GMT
> I'm not sure if this is the right group to raise this, because I've
> no proof that it affects our nutrition, but it might.
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> Does anyone else care about this? Is there a better group to discuss
> it?

discuss away, many of us know full well the value of live food
and raw juice therapy and have raised ourselves from the near
dead to prove it.... with fasting also,

Others of us are shilling for the drug companies and trash the
very notion and try to destroy anyone posting on these issues
with vicious ad hominem attacks... so brace yersef... that
doesnt changes the facts however... or the fact that the vioxx
folks murdered a few hundred thousand people with deliberate
fraud just to make money...etc.

If you post about live food, include a range of links...for
the drug company reps to quote out of context and trash..thats
always exciting.

Myself I just tell folks to go ahead wait until they are
almost dead like I did... then do raw vegitable juice, greens
especially, with garlic and ginger...(get a book on raw
vegitable juice therapy)     if they want to come back alive
again... no point in getting into a more involved discussion
than that...but you can.. some will find it very interesting,
you might save a few lives.

Phil Scott
TC - 15 Feb 2005 14:53 GMT
> I'm not sure if this is the right group to raise this, because I've
> no proof that it affects our nutrition, but it might.
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> Does anyone else care about this? Is there a better group to discuss
> it?

I think that you may be in the right group.

Freshness of food is key in good nutrition. Although I would not go so
far as to say that we need to eat everything in its raw state,
freshness ensures maximum nutrition to a large extent.

The converse is food that has been manufacturd and refined to death.
Grains and grain starches, sugars, manufactured fats like margarine and
shortening are all dead foods. Unfotunately even todays milk has been
processed pretty much to its death.

Soups made from chemical powders in plastic cups where you just add hot
water is not live food, it isn't even a food, it's a chemical
concoction. Conversely, soup made from the meat and bones of healthy
freshly dispatched well-fed chickens is real healthy live food.

TC
John Sankey - 18 Feb 2005 17:17 GMT
An update: grains from local Chinese and Indian ethnic groceries do
sprout - including some really neat looking rices like bright red
stuff from the Himalayas and long deep purple glutinous rice from
China. But, barley is still a 'dead end' :-(
John Sankey - 19 Feb 2005 02:28 GMT
"My health food store has a specific area for many sprouting grains
and sprouting paraphernalia."

As it should, although neither of the ones closest to me does. But,
I'm personally more interested in what ordinary people eat, not the
tiny number who use health food stores.
 
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