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Neuropathy from extreme diet, sound possible??

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fgt@aol.com - 03 Feb 2005 00:02 GMT
Due to mystery illness, I started avoiding carbs, and went to almost
vegen diet for weeks. Then I added some meats, but basically stayed
away from milk/dairy/ breads/ sugars and lived on mostly meats and
vegetables. I took many supplements.
About a month into this, I started to develop paresthesia, tingling,
burning, numbness, muscle twitches etc.

Is it possible that the diet was too extreme and caused these
sensations?

Know of any similar situations?

If so, what is the best way back to health.

Thanks.
steve@tropheus.demon.co.uk - 03 Feb 2005 00:25 GMT
>Due to mystery illness, I started avoiding carbs, and went to almost
>vegen diet for weeks. Then I added some meats, but basically stayed
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
>Thanks.

My wife had the same problem along with neuropathic pain in her feet.
The problem was due to years on a low carbohydrate, anti candida, diet
and the resulting lack of the vitamin B's. If that is your problem the
resulting nerve damage will take a long time to correct. Make sure you
start taking 200mg B1 every day along with a multi B complex and
sublingual B12.
fgt@aol.com - 03 Feb 2005 01:14 GMT
Thanks Steve.
Did she have muscle twitches, spasm as well?
I hate to ask but what is a long time?
Im taking the supplements but, how did she backtrack on her diet?
Slowly adding carbs etc?
It seems like mine is all over the place, one set of nerves goes, than
a different set, but the previous set seems fine. I hope there is a
way to reverse all this and there reallly isnt damage.

>>Due to mystery illness, I started avoiding carbs, and went to almost
>>vegen diet for weeks. Then I added some meats, but basically stayed
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>start taking 200mg B1 every day along with a multi B complex and
>sublingual B12.
Piezo Guru - 03 Feb 2005 01:32 GMT
Sounds like you have acidosis. you whole body is too acidic and you need to
raise your pH level. This can be associated with too many proteins and loss
of electrolytes via sweating etc.

Try this

Baking soda (sodium bocarbonate) at 10 am and 4 pm each day (not close to
food), about 500mg (large capsule size) for a few weeks.  If it works, get
on more magnesium and potassium and start eating fresh vegetables, not
cooked.

> Thanks Steve.
> Did she have muscle twitches, spasm as well?
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> >start taking 200mg B1 every day along with a multi B complex and
> >sublingual B12.
fgt@aol.com - 03 Feb 2005 02:53 GMT
>Sounds like you have acidosis. you whole body is too acidic and you need to
>raise your pH level. This can be associated with too many proteins and loss
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>on more magnesium and potassium and start eating fresh vegetables, not
>cooked.

Funny, I thought it sounded more like alkalosis, the paresthesia
symptoms are more associated with that arent they?

>> Thanks Steve.
>> Did she have muscle twitches, spasm as well?
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
>> >start taking 200mg B1 every day along with a multi B complex and
>> >sublingual B12.
Piezo Guru - 04 Feb 2005 01:27 GMT
It is possible although not likely in most diets. The symptoms are almost
the same.

> >Sounds like you have acidosis. you whole body is too acidic and you need to
> >raise your pH level. This can be associated with too many proteins and loss
[quoted text clipped - 41 lines]
> >> >start taking 200mg B1 every day along with a multi B complex and
> >> >sublingual B12.
steve@tropheus.demon.co.uk - 03 Feb 2005 10:05 GMT
>Thanks Steve.
>Did she have muscle twitches, spasm as well?

Yes, but the neuropathic pain in her feet was the main problem.

>I hate to ask but what is a long time?

She slowly improved after about three months and then, after about a
year, she started to improve quite a lot. We are hoping she will be
back to normal one day. The "experts" estimates vary from 18 months
upwards.

>Im taking the supplements but, how did she backtrack on her diet?
>Slowly adding carbs etc?

She has been building up on the carbohydrates very slowly.

>It seems like mine is all over the place, one set of nerves goes, than
>a different set, but the previous set seems fine. I hope there is a
>way to reverse all this and there reallly isnt damage.

Have you seen a neurologist? Your problem may not be diet related at
all.

Peripheral nerve damage will recover very slowly.

Steve
Rene - 03 Feb 2005 02:12 GMT
> Due to mystery illness, I started avoiding carbs, and went to almost
> vegen diet for weeks. Then I added some meats, but basically stayed
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Thanks.

What were the symptoms of the mystery illness that started you on this diet?

Ren?
fgt@aol.com - 03 Feb 2005 02:52 GMT
>> Due to mystery illness, I started avoiding carbs, and went to almost
>> vegen diet for weeks. Then I added some meats, but basically stayed
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
>What were the symptoms of the mystery illness that started you on this diet?

Basically colitis, had it once before eight years ago. Went overboard
with vegan, no carbs a radical diet change. About two weeks later,
all this neuropathy, muscle twitches, burning started. Blood test,
negative for celiac.
>René
Alf Christophersen - 09 Feb 2005 23:27 GMT
>Due to mystery illness, I started avoiding carbs, and went to almost
>vegen diet for weeks. Then I added some meats, but basically stayed
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>Is it possible that the diet was too extreme and caused these
>sensations?

Have you tested if you might have a hyperglycemia from overstimulated
gluconeogenesis from amino acids and high glucagon levels?
John Que - 12 Feb 2005 11:11 GMT
You say you started a special diet because you had a mystery illness and
now it has progressed? Go to the Doc and have check up.
You didn't tell us your approximate age, height, weight, bp,
prescriptions, chronic conditions, supplements, or etc.
I repeat go to a medical doctor.

> Due to mystery illness, I started avoiding carbs, and went to almost
> vegen diet for weeks. Then I added some meats, but basically stayed
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Thanks.
 
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