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Can't Get Away from Sodium????

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NYC XYZ - 25 Jan 2005 14:56 GMT
Hi, All:

What's the worst that can happen with high daily sodium intake?  I
mean, there's just no avoiding it!  Even them stupid weight watchers
entrees have like 33% USRDA of sodium each!

I mean, short of cooking stuff myself (which I do, but can't
always)...is there no hope??  Could regular exercise (3x/wk. @ 2 hrs.)
mitigate, if not outright negate, the effects of high daily sodium
intake?  I mean, I do sweat a lot...so maybe all that salts going out
that way??

I have low blood pressure, BTW, and am in excellent health (as far as
the standard physical check-up goes -- I ain't talking about compared
to athletes, necessarily).

TIA!!
spodosaurus - 25 Jan 2005 15:39 GMT
> Hi, All:
>
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>
> TIA!!

Why are you worried? Most people aren't sodium sensitive anyway, and if
your blood pressure is on the low side, what's the point of getting
worked up?

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NYC XYZ - 25 Jan 2005 18:34 GMT
Well, I'm trying to be healthier.  I lift weights, jog, bicycle...but I
don't know if that's enough, 'specially since I'm getting older and
older and it really looks like I ain't the same boy I used to be!  I
mean, even I've noticed how much easier it is to gain weight now, and
how much harder to gain muscle, etc.

So anyway, I'm trying to eat healthy, besides just pumping out and
running around.

What's sodium sensitive?  What are the effects of too much sodium
intake?  This just doesn't seem like something I can control for,
unless I'm gonna cook for myself all the time!!  I mean, sheesh, 25g of
protein but 660mg of sodium (~33% USRDA) in one shot!

Say, any "healthy eating" sites around -- but with an eye towards the
weight-lifter??  You know, I don't want advice like "have a yogurt for
breakfast"....
xxx - 26 Jan 2005 03:05 GMT
>"NYC XYZ" <jack_foreigner@yahoo.com> wrote in message >
> What's sodium sensitive?  What are the effects of too much sodium
> intake?

Only about 1/3 of the population is 'sodium sensitive' where
their kidneys can't handle extra sodium - specifically SALT -
very well.  This is partly due to higher aldosterone levels, so
they retain too much sodium, which can cause or contribute
to cardiovascular disease and stroke.
There is also the usual effect of high sodium on other chemical
levels, such as a ratio conflict with, or loss of potassium,
magnesium, and others, which can result in additional medical
conditions.  The chloride component of salt may be a another
consideration for its beneficial and adverse effects.
xxx - 26 Jan 2005 03:11 GMT
>"NYC XYZ" <jack_foreigner@yahoo.com> wrote in message >
> What's sodium sensitive?  What are the effects of too much sodium
> intake?

Only about 1/3 of the population is 'sodium sensitive' where
their kidneys can't handle extra sodium - specifically SALT -
very well.  This is partly due to higher aldosterone levels, so
they retain too much sodium, which can cause or contribute
to cardiovascular disease and stroke.

There is also the usual effect of high sodium on other chemical
levels, such as a ratio conflict with, or loss of potassium,
magnesium, and others, which can either result in additional
medical conditions - or improve them, if they are caused by
low sodium.  The chloride component of salt may be a another
consideration for its beneficial and adverse effects.
Steve Freides - 25 Jan 2005 19:39 GMT
> Hi, All:
>
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> the standard physical check-up goes -- I ain't talking about compared
> to athletes, necessarily).

Other than higher blood pressure, which seems not to be an issue for
you, what "effects of high daily sodium intake" are you concerned about?
I don't know about the medical/scientific validity of what's on this
page:

http://www.acu-cell.com/pna.html

"Despite its essential requirement, sodium continues to suffer a bad
reputation as a result of being
linked to cardiovascular disease and stroke.  While one cannot dispute
its involvement, sodium only
affects about one third of the population in that regard.  The rest does
not have to worry as much as far
as intake is concerned.  In fact, for those who tend to be on the low
side blood pressure-wise, adequate
sodium or salt intake is very important,..."

For me, eating a lot of sodium makes my weight go up a pound or two
until I stop eating a lot of sodium, at which point it goes down again.
Many low-<something> foods have more sodium to make up for the loss of
flavor that happens when you leave out the <something>, but, e.g., my
kids like a particular brand of hot dog that comes in both a regular and
a low-fat style.  Given that hot dogs are pretty high in fat, much of it
the less than desirable kind, we usually by the low-fat hot dogs, which
are only low in fat when compared to other hot dogs, not other foods.
They do have more sodium, but my wife and I feel it's an appropriate
trade-off in this instance.  The kids like both styles equally well -
and, yes, I know, even the lower-sodium hot dogs have tons of sodium
already.

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com
joni - 26 Jan 2005 04:33 GMT
> Could regular exercise (3x/wk. @ 2 hrs.) mitigate, if not
> outright negate, the effects of high daily sodium
> intake?  I mean, I do sweat a lot...so maybe all that salts
> going out that way??
Drink lots of water and dont worry about it.

<<joni>>
 
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