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Medical Forum / General / Nutrition / December 2004Laetrile
http://www.whale.to/cancer/laetrile.html >http://www.whale.to/cancer/laetrile.html Using the above link as an example, rate the quality of the "evidence" presented there based on the following: 1. At least 1 properly randomized, controlled trial; 2. Well-designed, controlled trials without randomization; 3. Well-designed, cohort or case-control analytic studies; 4. Multiple time series with or without the intervention; 5. Dramatic results in uncontrolled experiments; and 6. Opinions of experts or committees, clinical experiences, and descriptive studies. > http://www.whale.to/cancer/laetrile.html Laetrile pushers are murders, IMNSHO. > http://www.whale.to/cancer/laetrile.html Just watch out for the side effects...like increased tumor size and cyanide poisoning. http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/laetrile.html "The results of the trial were clear-cut. Not one patient was cured or even stabilized. The median survival rate was 4.8 months from the start of therapy, and in those still alive after seven months, tumor size had increased. This was the expected result for patients receiving no treatment at all. In addition, several patients experienced symptoms of cyanide toxicity or had blood levels of cyanide approaching the lethal range [7]. " > http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/laetrile.html http://www.whale.to/p/quacks.html Quackwatch (Operated by Stephen Barrett, M.D.) affiliate of the National Council Against Health Fraud. National Council Against Health Fraud (NCAHF) http://www.hcrc.org/ncahf/ncahf.html Committee For The Scientific Investigation of Claims of the Paranormal (CSICOP) http://www.csicop.org/ (CSICOP Fellow--Dr Barrett) Magazine---Skeptical Inquirer Dr Victor Herbert, Stephen Barrett and William Jarvis are on the Scientific Board of the American Council on Science and Health. Founded in 1978, this organisation is funded solely by the large pharmaceutical and chemical companies, the AMA and industry supported Foundations. Don't like that source John? Try this one... The National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine http://cis.nci.nih.gov/fact/9_3.htm "Laboratory and animal studies have shown little evidence that laetrile is effective against cancer." "...little evidence to support laetrile as a treatment for cancer." "All of the patients showed cancer progression 7 months after completing treatment. " "The side effects associated with laetrile treatment are like the symptoms of cyanide poisoning. " "The symptoms include nausea and vomiting, headache, dizziness, bluish discoloration of the skin due to a lack of oxygen in the blood, liver damage, abnormally low blood pressure, droopy upper eyelid, difficulty walking due to damaged nerves, fever, mental confusion, coma, and death." The side effects can be increased by....<snip> ... or taking high doses of vitamin C. > Don't like that source John? You think the medical mafia don't have a cover story for laetrile? You may be asleep but some of us woke up years ago Contreras has been using it for 30 years http://www.whale.to/a/laetrile_p.html so I guess the Mexican government are in on the fraud too > > Don't like that source John? > > You think the medical mafia don't have a cover story for laetrile? You may > be asleep but some of us woke up years ago You woke up in La-La Land. > Contreras has been using it for 30 years > http://www.whale.to/a/laetrile_p.html so I guess the Mexican government are > in on the fraud too "john" <nospamoridiots@vaccine.com> wrote... > Contreras has been using it for 30 years > http://www.whale.to/a/laetrile_p.html so I guess the Mexican government are > in on the fraud too OMG, you absolutely DESTROYED your argument when you brought in the Mexican government. I've lived on the Mexican border much of my life (still do) and while I doubt you've read anything I've posted to the Mexico-related newsgroups, the recurring theme is that the Mexican government is corrupt to the core, not even a real "government" at all but a criminal mafia-like syndicate that has robbed the country blind. I've paid visits to Mexican "doctors," and like their government (who granted them their UNAM public university degrees and licenses them), they are also corrupt to the core and many extremely incompetent (I go to them because they write prescreeptions for controlled substances like candy, surely evidence of standards of Mexican medical ethics). Mexican government in on the fraud? Naturally. Please keep in mind that this is a country whose entire police forces, military as well as high ranking generals, and even the president of Mexico himself have been discovered to be on the payroll of drug cartels. This is a country where government officials have stolen literally billions of dollars in public resources, funnelling some into personal secret Swiss bank accounts and using some to illegally fund the ruling party's political machine to rig elections in their favor. The moment you brought Mexico into it, you doomed your argument in favor of Laetrile. "Michael Myers" <mmyers@halloween.net> wrote in message news:LTRwd.2965 > Mexican government in on the fraud? Naturally. Please keep in mind that > this is a country whose entire police forces, military as well as high [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > rig elections in their favor. The moment you brought Mexico into it, you > doomed your argument in favor of Laetrile. Just like our own except ours just funnells it into Corporations http://www.whale.to/a/cartels_h.html and the biggest drug dealer on the planet is Kissinger as Dope Inc proved, as if we all didn't know anyway http://www.whale.to/b/drug_war.html so I don't think your argument holds much water, as there isn't any difference in the governments, ours just rob us more covertly, bandits in white collars I call them and the biggest robber is the pharma industry http://www.whale.to/a/hoaxmed.html > "john" <nospamoridiots@vaccine.com> wrote... > > Contreras has been using it for 30 years [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > OMG, you absolutely DESTROYED your argument when you brought in the Mexican > government. John the owner of the whale.to website never has an argument worth destroying because they are not worth believing in the first place. The whale.to website has been criticized as the entire internets leading suppository of mis- and false information. I've lived on the Mexican border much of my life (still do) > and while I doubt you've read anything I've posted to the Mexico-related > newsgroups, the recurring theme is that the Mexican government is corrupt [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > rig elections in their favor. The moment you brought Mexico into it, you > doomed your argument in favor of Laetrile. Interesting, one of the most infamous health care frauds, Hulda Clark, has a clinic in Tiajuana. Recently, like earlier this month, Hulda's Henchmen stipulated that they can no longer sell her gadgets, gizmos and goos in the US with any form of health care intent. Interestingly, there is a picture someone took of her "clinic" which shows a car from a local mortuary. Do you know if morticians split fees with large referrers in Mexico? > > http://www.whale.to/cancer/laetrile.html > > Just watch out for the side effects...like increased tumor size and cyanide > poisoning. Death is also a well known side effect of this crap. Angry relatives, who learn of this scam after the death can also be hazardous to the sellers w/health. http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/laetrile.html > "The results of the trial were clear-cut. Not one patient was cured or even > stabilized. The median survival rate was 4.8 months from the start of > therapy, and in those still alive after seven months, tumor size had > increased. This was the expected result for patients receiving no treatment > at all. In addition, several patients experienced symptoms of cyanide > toxicity or had blood levels of cyanide approaching the lethal range [7]. " "john" <nospamoridiots@vaccine.com> wrote... > http://www.whale.to/cancer/laetrile.html Away with thee, unholy troll! First it was your magic homeopathic herbal vitamin potions, now you have resurrected the beast known as laetrile that was slain nearly 30 years ago. I won't even bother clicking on your link, I know all about laetrile and it is just the most perfect example of snake oil and the vermin who peddle the stuff. "Michael Myers" <mmyers@halloween.net> wrote in message news:1oswd.1447 I won't even > bother clicking on your link, I know all about laetrile and it is > just the most perfect example of snake oil and the vermin who > peddle the stuff. Truth a bit hard to handle, I can sympathise Real snake oil peddlars http://www.whale.to/a/hoaxmed.html > "john" <nospamoridiots@vaccine.com> wrote... > > http://www.whale.to/cancer/laetrile.html [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > just the most perfect example of snake oil and the vermin who > peddle the stuff. This is the jerk you are responding to: http://pages.ivillage.com/vaccinesupport/antivaxsites/whale.html |
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