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WITH THE RAINS, COMES MALARIA

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Jamboweb - 25 Nov 2004 03:04 GMT
BULAWAYO, Nov 22 (IPS) - In the blistering summer heat, slow-gathering
clouds that promise rain are welcomed by farmers in Zimbabwe and other
water-scarce countries in Southern Africa. Yet the rains - when they
come - also worsen the incidence of malaria.
http://www.jamboweb.com/ctnt/index.cfm?icontent_id=805&isection_id=16
N-H-P - 25 Nov 2004 12:48 GMT
> BULAWAYO, Nov 22 (IPS) - In the blistering summer heat, slow-gathering
> clouds that promise rain are welcomed by farmers in Zimbabwe and other
> water-scarce countries in Southern Africa. Yet the rains - when they
> come - also worsen the incidence of malaria.
> http://www.jamboweb.com/ctnt/index.cfm?icontent_id=805&isection_id=16

The interesting thing about malaria that is NOT generally well known
by the public is that malaria used to be a major cause of death in the
United States.  During the civil war peroid many more soldiers died
from malaria than from battle.

I came across this information while researching my history tutorial
series of articles.

Clearly, there is no vaccination for malaria.  Clearly, medicine had
absolutely nothing to do with getting rid of malaria in the United
States.  Medicine has a number of very toxic drugs for preventing
malaria, which the population in the United States clearly do not
take.  Yet, there is no malaria problem in the United States.

Ha, ... Hah, Ha!  Malaria more than any disease in the United States
clearly documents that medicine had absolutely nothing to do with the
sudden improvement in health experienced by the United States at the
turn of the 20th century.

Just thought that you might want to know. :)
--
john gohde
http://tutorials.naturalhealthperspective.com/
Dunne E. Dawe - 25 Nov 2004 13:38 GMT
>> BULAWAYO, Nov 22 (IPS) - In the blistering summer heat, slow-gathering
>> clouds that promise rain are welcomed by farmers in Zimbabwe and other
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>
>Just thought that you might want to know. :)

And your ignorant, non-scientific lot called it "malaria", meaning
"bad air" which you thought caused the illness. Not improved much,
have you.
N-H-P - 25 Nov 2004 22:30 GMT
> And your ignorant, non-scientific lot called it "malaria", meaning
> "bad air" which you thought caused the illness. Not improved much,
> have you.

Miasmas if it is all the same to you, Dumb 'the Dumb Dawe.' :)

I shall be sure to write the History of Malaria in the Unites States.
It will make the perfect addition to my web site. :)
--
john gohde
http://tutorials.naturalhealthperspective.com/
markd@toad-net.com - 25 Nov 2004 16:08 GMT
"Clearly, there is no vaccination for malaria.  Clearly, medicine had
absolutely nothing to do with getting rid of malaria in the United
States.  Medicine has a number of very toxic drugs for preventing
malaria, which the population in the United States clearly do not
take.  Yet, there is no malaria problem in the United States."

And the point is?  "Public health practices broke the cycle of Malaria in
the us, one arm of the general set "medicine".  Malaria: was one of about
half dozen diseases common in the civil war, not the only or most
responsible for non-combat related deaths, and all were related to public
health problems,ie "medicine" which learned much from and applied info
learned in the war to general medical practices. Naturally, word play is
among the poorest kinds of support for a notion.
N-H-P - 26 Nov 2004 00:38 GMT
> "Clearly, there is no vaccination for malaria.  Clearly, medicine had
> absolutely nothing to do with getting rid of malaria in the United
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> And the point is?  

Medicine is a bunch of huey!  Ha, ... Hah, Ha!

> "Public health practices broke the cycle of Malaria in
> the us, one arm of the general set "medicine".

general set "medicine"

Ha, ... Hah, Ha!  Tell me another tall tale.

Public health practices

Ha, ... Hah, Ha!  Tell me another tall tale.

Gee!  Don't misquotes have something to do with it?

> Malaria: was one of about
> half dozen diseases common in the civil war, not the only or most
> responsible for non-combat related deaths, and all were related to public
> health problems,ie "medicine" which learned much from and applied info
> learned in the war to general medical practices. Naturally, word play is
> among the poorest kinds of support for a notion.

Ha, ... Hah, Ha!  Tell me another tall tale.  It had absolutely
nothing to do with medicine. Medicine certainly did not learn from the
Civil War, the Spanish American War, or even WWI.

Yes indeed, I need to write a good elucidation on malaria. :)
--
john gohde
http://tutorials.naturalhealthperspective.com/
markd@toad-net.com - 26 Nov 2004 01:03 GMT
"nothing to do with medicine. Medicine certainly did not learn from the
Civil War, the Spanish American War, or even WWI.

Yes indeed, I need to write a good elucidation on malaria. :)"

Don't bother if the above is your level of understanding about medicine in
the US.  Just what are you offereing as the reason malaria is not the
problem it once was, homopathetic practices?  Was the soldiers blood
diluted to make their immune system more powerful?  Naturally it must have
been that way.
N-H-P - 26 Nov 2004 13:54 GMT
> "nothing to do with medicine. Medicine certainly did not learn from the
> Civil War, the Spanish American War, or even WWI.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> diluted to make their immune system more powerful?  Naturally it must have
> been that way.

Obviously, it had nothing to do medicine, nor was it related to
garbage and horse manure lying in the streets.  It had to do with the
control of misquotes.

It probably would come under 'nuisance abatements,' like the draining
of swamps.

Malaria is certainly the perfect example of an infectious disease
disappearing around the turn of the 20th century without any help
whatsoever from medicine  or from scientific research being published
in peer-reviewed bullshit journals.

History is history, Dim-wit.
--
john gohde
http://tutorials.naturalhealthperspective.com/
N-H-P - 26 Nov 2004 15:15 GMT
> "nothing to do with medicine. Medicine certainly did not learn from the
> Civil War, the Spanish American War, or even WWI.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Don't bother if the above is your level of understanding about medicine in
> the US.

http://www.jhsph.edu/Malaria/Malaria_Background.html
"The Public Health Service began an anti-malaria campaign in 1942, and
by 1953, Plasmodium was considered to be tamed in the United States.
Some authorities today, however, believe this public health campaign
had less to do with malaria's retreat than did the country's
increasing prosperity, which pushed millions of Americans out of the
swampy hinterlands and into cities."

'nuisance abatements'
Malaria was brought under control by spraying with insecticides such
as DDT, coating marshes with paraffin (to block development of
mosquito larvae), draining stagnant water, and sleeping under bed
nets.

There was no use of a malaria vaccine.  While medicine can brag about
their toxic drugs preventing malaria the facts are that malaria is
still running out of control in many areas of the world which have
failed to control their mosquitoes and drain their swamps. :)
--
john gohde
http://tutorials.naturalhealthperspective.com/
markd@toad-net.com - 26 Nov 2004 14:19 GMT
No, the history of the control of malaria is not what you speculate, it is
speciffically the application of science based on breaking the cycle of
it's spread as learned from scientific investigation.  It was a pyublic
health measure,ie. medicine, and was a spectacular success within a few
years.  Your time period is all wrong too.  Drugs were first used to
control those who got it, but science made possible the breaking of the
disease's cycle, naturally.

>It probably would come under 'nuisance abatements,' like the draining
>of swamps.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>john gohde
>http://tutorials.naturalhealthperspective.com/
markd@toad-net.com - 26 Nov 2004 14:38 GMT
Congratulations, no end of wonders when one uses a search enjine.  The
below reflects, but is only a shadow of, the science involved in the
history of malaria control in the US.  Note the '42 date, it was WW II and
scores of military camps were placed in malarie infested areas of the
country, it was the war that was the greatest incentive to find a way to
control the disease.  And it was done and it was a excellent application
of the methods of science/medicine that made it possible, meantime, in
other parts of the world where such public health techniques were not
avalible, drugs old and new were used to protect troops from the disease.  
Now for extra points, what is thought to have been the entry of the
disease into the americas?  Crude attempts to wedge what is medicine and
not into some agenda driven box do not serve.  Language is a wonderous
thing, but it holds no salvation for your goals.

>http://www.jhsph.edu/Malaria/Malaria_Background.html
>"The Public Health Service began an anti-malaria campaign in 1942, and
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>john gohde
>http://tutorials.naturalhealthperspective.com/
markd@toad-net.com - 26 Nov 2004 19:43 GMT
The logical non-sequitur mess has not improved from the first time such
was posted.  Now, by exertion of free will, going back to the topic of
malaria in the US, ...  What has science learned about the disease that
makes a vaccine difficult to develope, but perhaps one that is soon to be
overcome?  Two chances now for extra points, when added to the question
about the history of it's introduction into the americas.  Ah, shucks, I'm
feeling generous, tis the season you know, for even more points; what
disease is an genetic adaption to malaria and where did this adaption
happen and why?

>The ideology of free will brings up bigger issues then merely being
>pro or anti science. Politically, in the United States, the
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>john gohde
>http://tutorials.naturalhealthperspective.com/
markd@toad-net.com - 28 Nov 2004 17:45 GMT
Good, just 3 to go, aren't search enjines great.   See how a scientific
question proposed and a scientific answer provided clears the air,
naturally.

>> > For your extra point question of the day, for what disease was malaria
>> > given to a person on purpose and why?
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>john gohde
>http://gnu-dictionary.naturalhealthperspective.com/
 
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