>>>> http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/EdmontonSun/News/2004/11/24/728095.html
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> trace amount cause? Are we getting our knickers in a twist about
> nothing?
Butter is not the problem. The problem is that the rule says that
manufacturers can round down to zero when there's less than a half gram PER
SERVING. But it's up to a manufacturer to decide what constitutes a serving
size. Something could contain 1.5 grams of trans fat if a person routinely
uses three tablespoons, but if the manufacturer puts a serving size at
slightly under one tablespoon, it might say that it has no trans fat. If the
margarine is just one of many ingredients in a meal that "contain no trans
fat," it could add up quickly. It would not be hard to put together a meal
with 6g or more, even if the consumer thinks there is none. Is 18g per day
the same as zero?
If one product contains .5 grams of trans fat, and the serving size is
realistic, and another brand contains 0 grams, it will cause confusion. If
I see that a serving size is not realistic, my instinct would be to
multiply. But 3x0=0, not 1.49.
As I said, realistically, that's still better than something that has high
levels of trans fats. But I'd still like consumers to be able to decide for
themselves. If they do allow rounding, I wouldn't mind if it took into
account the total weight of a portion. If a tablespoon weighs 5 grams
total, and it's almost 10% trans fat, telling me that there's none seems
wrong.
Preston Crawford - 09 Dec 2004 22:50 GMT
> As I said, realistically, that's still better than something that has high
> levels of trans fats. But I'd still like consumers to be able to decide for
> themselves. If they do allow rounding, I wouldn't mind if it took into
> account the total weight of a portion. If a tablespoon weighs 5 grams
> total, and it's almost 10% trans fat, telling me that there's none seems
> wrong.
This is especially wrong given the ubiquity of trans fats in so many
processed foods.
Preston
Hagrinas Mivali - 10 Dec 2004 04:12 GMT
>> As I said, realistically, that's still better than something that
>> has high levels of trans fats. But I'd still like consumers to be
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> Preston
If you disagree with me, are you saying that high levels of trans fats are
better, or are you saying that it's fine not to disclose trans fats?
Doug Freese - 10 Dec 2004 13:41 GMT
>>> As I said, realistically, that's still better than something that
>>> has high levels of trans fats. But I'd still like consumers to be
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> are
> better, or are you saying that it's fine not to disclose trans fats?
I read this to say he is in total agreement with you.
-DF
Preston Crawford - 10 Dec 2004 14:56 GMT
>>>> As I said, realistically, that's still better than something that
>>>> has high levels of trans fats. But I'd still like consumers to be
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> I read this to say he is in total agreement with you.
Yes. Exactly.
Preston
Dunne E. Dawe - 12 Dec 2004 14:17 GMT
>> As I said, realistically, that's still better than something that has high
>> levels of trans fats. But I'd still like consumers to be able to decide for
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>This is especially wrong given the ubiquity of trans fats in so many
>processed foods.
Perhaps "manufactured" rather than "processed"?
Processed seems to mean more "refined" to me, "things removed", rather
than "new foodstuffs made from many ingredients in a factory"? But I'm
not sure how it would be regarded in America.
What do folks think "processed" means to them?
Dunne E. Dawe - 12 Dec 2004 14:12 GMT
>>>>> http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/EdmontonSun/News/2004/11/24/728095.html
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>total, and it's almost 10% trans fat, telling me that there's none seems
>wrong.
I agree. I understand that in Australia, the limit for saying zero, is
0.5%, but I might be out on this. The fact remains though that
Australian marges have very little trans fats, and so the retinal
problems found in USA were not found here.