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Medical Forum / General / Nutrition / November 2004

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One size fits all diets

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jt - 14 Nov 2004 14:43 GMT
I think we need to start looking at peoples individual situations
before recommending a diet.

The Atkins Diet is not a healthy diet period, but neither is being
obese.  For these unfortunate people who can't or won't lose weight
through any other means are essentially taking the lesser of two
evils.  I would not recommend this diet to anyone but those whose life
is in serious jeopardy due to their weight.  The Atkins Diet can
produce serious and unwanted side effects but so can many drugs, just
as long as the cure is not worse than the disease.

A healthy person at a healthy weight eating a diet of say 60% carbs
25% fat & 15% protein should stay on that diet.  These people are not
at the same risk in developing the complications that occur in obese
people.  If a healthy person goes on Atkins who is at a healthy weight
or maybe a few pounds overweight they will probably develop heart
disease or other side effects of eating a high fat low nutrition diet.

I think you have to look at family history when trying to find the
right diet for someone.  Someone with a family history of heart
disease might have to watch their fat and cholesterol intake more
closely.  Someone like me with no family history of heart disease does
not need be as concerned with fat and cholesterol intake.

A healthy person should eat a wide range of foods and get rid of the
processed foods, bad fats/oils, refined sugars etc that are not good
for anyone.

Meats, fruits & vegetables, whole grains, fats, dairy are all healthy
in reasonable portions and part of a healthy diet.  If an obese person
cuts out whole grains and substitutes meat instead that may be the
best choice for their situation but not for someone else.  A person
with high cholesterol or a history of heart disease may substitute
whole grains and vegetables for meat & dairy.  Again perhaps the best
diet for their health problem but not the best diet for someone else.

On this board and elsewhere there is this need to come up with the
definitive diet that everyone should follow but that diet does not
exist.  Individuals have unique needs and circumstances that will not
be served by this one size fits all diet.  We need to get away from
these diets where all they offer is eliminating entire healthy food
groups from ones diet.  Whether its carbs, meat, dairy, etc they all
have a place in a healthy diet.
Viviane Beullens - 14 Nov 2004 15:18 GMT
Wholy agree with you.
The mode here in the country where I live was to favour vegetables, water,

no fats, no sugars and so on.
I was in good health, but on a day I decided to become a vegetarian and to
drink only water.
Well,  as result  I got a disease! I will not go into details, but it was
enough bad a disease, one  for which there seems to be no cure.
I came through it when returning to a balanced diet including again meat
and drinks with sugars! True, I eat only bio meat now.
While coping with the disease I studied a lot and found on the Internet
a site where they said  the success of
becoming a vegetarian might depend upon the boodgroup.
According to my bloodgroup I belonged to the meateaters!.
Others may have a bloodgroup which may be better suited for vegetarian
food.

If you are interested in reading what I wrote myself about nutrition while

coping with the disease, some songs are available on my site.
Have a listen to them when you've some time. (see links below)
I think my conclusion would be the same as yours: nutrition is the
key to health, but one has to find out which foods are best suited for us.

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/5/vivien.htm
Songs:
On Healing:
http://www.soundclick.com/util/streamM3U.m3u?ID=1722174&q=Lo
The Ear - this one is of the very important role of nutrition:
http://www.soundclick.com/util/streamM3U.m3u?ID=1749324&q=Lo
The Good Time - this one is about rest, getting goot time, habits, and so
on:
http://www.soundclick.com/util/streamM3U.m3u?ID=1678300&q=Lo

Vivian

> I think we need to start looking at peoples individual situations
> before recommending a diet.
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> groups from ones diet.  Whether its carbs, meat, dairy, etc they all
> have a place in a healthy diet.
 
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