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Is copper absorbed from house plumbing?

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Halterb - 10 Nov 2004 12:24 GMT
I wondered if people whose homes have copper water pipes absorb any of this
copper, and then if that could effectively cause a zinc deficiency. Any
thoughts?

Tnx
Larry Hoover - 10 Nov 2004 16:26 GMT
>I wondered if people whose homes have copper water pipes absorb any of this
> copper, and then if that could effectively cause a zinc deficiency. Any
> thoughts?
>
> Tnx

The concentration of copper leaching into drinking water from copper pipes is
trivial, unless the water is acidic. In the U.S., all water with high copper
concentrations is supposed to be reported to the EPA, but it's not certain that
would happen, of course. See:
http://books.nap.edu/books/0309069394/html/138.html#pagetop

The risk is low, but not zero.

Lar
Viviane Beullens - 16 Nov 2004 20:56 GMT
If the water pipes are in copper, yes, there is a risk.
Best is to  let  water flow a couple of seconds before taking drink water.

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> I wondered if people whose homes have copper water pipes absorb any of this
> copper, and then if that could effectively cause a zinc deficiency. Any
> thoughts?
>
> Tnx
Alf Christophersen - 14 Jan 2005 00:52 GMT
>I wondered if people whose homes have copper water pipes absorb any of this
>copper, and then if that could effectively cause a zinc deficiency. Any
>thoughts?

Only if you drink heated water from your heater. Measured copper
content once in analytical chemistry lab. In cold tap water with quite
acid water the color was very faint, but existant. Concentration was
in range of needed as supplementation as trace element, in lower end
of concentration range-

On the other hand, in water from heater, the color was like ink and
was not measurable until diluted about 1 million times :-)
Absorption coefficient was about 25 (around solid dark), while diluted
one million time around 0.2-0.5 :-) That is still quite a big
concentration. The reagent is extremely sensitive and detect far below
lower limit of being a trace element. Can¨'t remember which since this
was done in 1975.
Piezo Guru - 14 Jan 2005 01:35 GMT
It depends on how "dry" the water is. If you have hard water minerals are
deposited on the pipes and the copper and/or solder lead is nevere absorbed.

If you used distilled water it would absorb copper, lead, tin, any metals it
comes into contact with eventually depleting the walls of the pipes.

> >I wondered if people whose homes have copper water pipes absorb any of this
> >copper, and then if that could effectively cause a zinc deficiency. Any
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> lower limit of being a trace element. Can?'t remember which since this
> was done in 1975.
Alf Christophersen - 09 Feb 2005 23:27 GMT
>It depends on how "dry" the water is. If you have hard water minerals are
>deposited on the pipes and the copper and/or solder lead is nevere absorbed.
>
>If you used distilled water it would absorb copper, lead, tin, any metals it
>comes into contact with eventually depleting the walls of the pipes.

We don't make  distilled water for drinking purposes in our water
system in Oslo. But another problem is low pH due to little chalk in
surroundings of Maridalsvannet (source of most of water in Oslo) and
still problems with acid rain from pollution from Europe, like sulphur
dioxide from coal burning power plants, but also salpeter acid from
NOx deposits, from mainly gasoline burning in cars, NOx production in
agriculture etc., That increase release speed. The other problem is
the popularity of using copper pipes for water, while often using
steel in heaters. The mix may combined with electricity for the
heating of the copper wires giving heat, starts a process that release
both copper and iron into water, together with other metals.
Fortunately, cadmium at least is now completely banned used for water
supply lines.

In fact, copper intake is for many people on the lower edge of what is
healthy daily doses, lower than RDA, and for some so low that fructose
intake may stop intake completely (like sugar intake) and being
lethal.
 
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