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Re: Dictionary of Alternative Medicine

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markd@toad-net.com - 26 Oct 2004 15:34 GMT
If you are not informed as to the science of heavey metal effects in
humans, why would you assume your friends who prescribe these drugs to be
any more so?  

>Presuming there's a rationale for the question, then it is a good one
>and I'm sorry I don't know the answer yet. Haven't researched it. And
>indeed, I'm not sure how much has been done in terms of safety studies
>in humans. So DEFINITELY caution is advised. I merely wished to
>distinguish these from, say, lead contamination or other contamination
>that may enter a product.
>
>Bhasmas in general should NOT be used except under the care of someone
>who knows how to use them properly and assure the preparation was
>correct. Ayurvedic, Tibetan and Siddha physicians are not recognized
>in the United States yet. However, I have friends who practice these
>arts and, were it indicated, I would personally trust one of them to
>prescribe and supply a bhasma.
>
>                George M. Carter
markd@toad-net.com - 27 Oct 2004 14:29 GMT
Think and demonstrate are two very different things.  As requested before,
please show bias on the scientific level for quackwatch by showing cherry
picking of research and/or fraud in some context.  At quackwatch each
topic is covered by a review of research relating to the claims of the
topic, it is at that level bias must be demonstrated.  The link below is a
discussion board which does not rise to the level of the above.

>Oh--it ain't just me that thinks those guys are biased:
>http://s.webring.com/forum?forum=freeadvancedheal;did=96
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>                George M. Carter
markd@toad-net.com - 30 Oct 2004 14:15 GMT
I understand your personal reasons to use them, it still doesn't change
the reality of cam.  Few clinical confirmations across the board they work
and/or are safe.  That is just one of those nagging facts that refuse to
go away.  What might be when and if clinical research is done some day is
no substitute for effective and safe.  I follow several journals and see
real research being done on some "traditional" drugs, that is good.  A
great majority of them involve isolating the active substance thought to
be the real possible cause for possible clinical results.  That is far
from the "traditional" trial and error the humans are the lab rats methods
cam employs, which still leave in the end all the questions at the start
of effective and safe because clinical demonstrated results are
impossible.  All the positive feelings toward cam can not erase this
hurdle which solution still means research.

>>No, I want demonstrated effective and safe first, not just testing a batch
>>to see if it contains what the label says.
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>                George M. Carter
 
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