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Medical Forum / General / Nutrition / November 2004Milk and Meat; Tasty Sources of Pesticides for the Whole Family!
. From: "Robert Cohen" <notmilk@e...> Date: Mon Oct 25, 2004 7:49 am Subject: Pesticides in Milk ADVERTISEMENT Pesticides in Milk The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) allows up to 60 times more pesticides in feed given to cows than in crops grown for human consumption. Unless you eat organic fruits and vegetables, for every portion of broccoli or rice or corn you eat, you'll ingest one dose of various pesticides. Should you eat corn every day for two years, you'll absorb 730 doses. Corn grown for cows might contain 60 times the amount of pesticide. Cows eating corn every day for two years might then ingest 43,800 doses. A human sitting atop the food chain drinking one glass of milk or eating one portion of tainted muscle from her leg or back will absorb concentrated pesticides. Eat her face (at Burger King) or her butt (at Wendy's) and you might ingest more than 15 million doses of pesticides each year. That adds up to over 1 billion doses during your lifetime. The scientific facts: http://www.notmilk.com/pesticides.html Robert Cohen http://www.notmilk.com > . > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > 60 times more pesticides in feed given to cows than in > crops grown for human consumption. Proof? And here's another interesting bit of misinformation from your pal Robert "notmilk" Cohen.. "Eat soy or any fruit and vegetable, and you get one dose. Eat organic soy, or organic fruits and vegetables, and you receive zero doses of pesticides." That is a blatant LIE. "Even if a product is considered to be organic, it is still a pesticide. It is important to be careful when using any pesticide, even organic or natural pesticides. Just because a product is thought to be organic, or natural, does not mean that it is not toxic. Some organic pesticides are as toxic, or even more toxic, than many synthetic chemical pesticides. Organic pesticides have specific modes of action, just as do synthetic pesticides." http://hgic.clemson.edu/factsheets/HGIC2756.htm Here's another tidbit for ya Organic Food Marketers Make False Health Claims Organic pesticides may cause cancer and liver disease http://www.cgfi.org/materials/articles/2002/oct_22_02.htm What satisfaction exactly do you clowns get out of this campaign of misinformation and lies anyway Ronnie? > > . > > [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > What satisfaction exactly do you clowns get out of this campaign of > misinformation and lies anyway Ronnie? Its the same deal with Creation "Scientists". This is what you get from people who have extreme ideological agendas and they must make at least an attempt at scientific credibility. At least enough to fool uneducated and uninformed people who just do not know better. If for every 10 people who hears the lie just 1 person believes it that is enough for them. This is the case with Creation Scientists. So many lies are repeated so many times over and over that those telling the truth are simply overwhelmed and can not keep up. Add to that the fact that most of the people who buy into these lies and distortions have little understanding of real science and they in turn spread the lies to others of like mind and it goes on and on. Yes it is misinformation but they do it because it works and they know it. > > . > > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > have specific modes of action, just as do synthetic pesticides." > http://hgic.clemson.edu/factsheets/HGIC2756.htm Gee whiz Douche. I guess the organic guys who don't use pesticides of any kind stand to make a fortune. > Here's another tidbit for ya > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > What satisfaction exactly do you clowns get out of this campaign of > misinformation and lies anyway Ronnie? > "Dutch" <no@email.com> wrote >> > . [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] >> have specific modes of action, just as do synthetic pesticides." >> http://hgic.clemson.edu/factsheets/HGIC2756.htm > Gee whiz Douche. I guess the organic guys who don't use pesticides of > any kind stand to make a fortune. Thanks for not denying that you and Cohen are liars. >> Here's another tidbit for ya >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> What satisfaction exactly do you clowns get out of this campaign of >> misinformation and lies anyway Ronnie? What is it Ronnie? Why do you do it? > > "Dutch" <no@email.com> wrote > >> > . [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > Thanks for not denying that you and Cohen are liars. Thanks for assuming that all organic growers use pesticides of one type or another. More proof of your ignorance concerning the production of food. > >> Here's another tidbit for ya > >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > What is it Ronnie? Why do you do it? > "Dutch" <no@email.com> wrote >> > "Dutch" <no@email.com> wrote [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > type or another. More proof of your ignorance concerning the > production of food. I made no such assumption, let me remind me of the issue here, of Mr NotMilk's lie. "Eat soy or any fruit and vegetable, and you get one dose. Eat organic soy, or organic fruits and vegetables, and you receive zero doses of pesticides." This is just one of the falsehoods you and he promote. >> >> Here's another tidbit for ya >> >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> >> What is it Ronnie? Why do you do it? >Thanks for assuming that all organic growers use pesticides of one >type or another. More proof of your ignorance concerning the >production of food. You can't grow plants without pesticides. If you don't apply them, the plants will make them. >> > . >> > [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > any kind stand to make a fortune. > ============================ Nope, because they aren't doing that, and if they were, you wouldn't be buying them anyway. What part of 'organic pesticides are toxic' don't you understand, killer? >> Here's another tidbit for ya >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> What satisfaction exactly do you clowns get out of this campaign of >> misinformation and lies anyway Ronnie? Don't forget that plants make their own pesticides that can have activity against insects, animals, or even other plants (the last is called allelopathy). Soy makes phytoestrogens (yes, steroid hormones) that can alter an animal's ability to reproduce. Many plant toxins are designed to keep them from being eaten in the long term: cyanide, alkaloids, and an array of toxins that are perfectly natural, albeit bad for us and other animals that haven't come up with adaptations to handle them. Does the fact that plants contain their own pesticides make them bad? No. It's an issue of type and dose -- the same that applies to organic and conventional pesticides. >Don't forget that plants make their own pesticides that can have >activity against insects, animals, or even other plants (the last is [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >No. It's an issue of type and dose -- the same that applies to >organic and conventional pesticides. Hear hear! |
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