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Oils - EFA's DHA - what about this mix?

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Winter - 12 Oct 2004 13:18 GMT
Hello,

I would not live long enough to read up and resolve every controversy
about EFA's but still would at least like to be in the right ball park
and make sure that I am not totally without the right fats.

I have read about the benefits of olive oil, and the benefits of DHA,
and that flaxseed oil is good and so on and so forth. The debates
about these oils seem to be huge and neverending.

Anyway, having said that, how far off the mark would I be if I took
the following on a daily basis:

1 tablespoon cod liver oil
1 tablespoon flaxseed oil
2 tablespoons olive oil

I am interested in the DHA's for brain and cardio reasons and also
want to get some of the anti-oxident, mediteranean type diet benefits
from olive oil.

I would appreciate any helpful comments.  Thank you.

Winter
tintinet - 12 Oct 2004 22:47 GMT
> Hello,
>
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> Winter

Caveats: Flax-High ALA intake has been associate with increased
incidence of prostate cancer. Thus flax oil may not be entirely
beneficial.  Ground flax seed might be better, as it may provide more
lignans as well as fiber.

Cod liver oil-High long chain polyunsaturated fats may induce
increased mitochondrial membrane oxidation, and thus accelerate aging.
Adam Becker Sr - 13 Oct 2004 02:52 GMT
> Cod liver oil-High long chain polyunsaturated fats may induce
> increased mitochondrial membrane oxidation, and thus accelerate aging.    

But isn't this true of ALL the essential fatty acids (EFA)?  They're
all polyunsaturated.  And for the short chain PUFA, the body is only
~10% efficient at converting the C18 into C20, so you've got to burn 9
molecules of ALA to get the same benefit of 1 molecule of fish-oil
EFA.

Seems like the lesson is: take as much fish oil as you need to get
your omega-3/6 ratio right, then knock it off.  And the amount that
Winter suggested seemed like a reasonable level.

I guess the other lesson is: if you're going to ramp up your EFAs,
ramp up your antioxidants, too.

Comments?
Adam Becker
Jan - 13 Oct 2004 09:44 GMT
downeaster1000@yahoo.com (Winter) wrote in message news:<cf8cd3be.0410120418.163e9774@posting.google.com>...

> Anyway, having said that, how far off the mark would I be if I took
> the following on a daily basis:
>
> 1 tablespoon cod liver oil
> 1 tablespoon flaxseed oil
> 2 tablespoons olive oil

I think there are some risks getting this much retinol from cod liver
oil. I would replace some of the cod liver oil with fish oils or with
fatty fish.

I would also take some flax seeds or walnuts as a source of omega-3
fatty acids instead of flax seed oil. Flax seed contain lignans and
fiber as mentioned. And walnuts are a rich source of myricetin.

> Seems like the lesson is: take as much fish oil as you need to get
> your omega-3/6 ratio right, then knock it off.  And the amount that
> Winter suggested seemed like a reasonable level.

I agree.

> I guess the other lesson is: if you're going to ramp up your EFAs,
> ramp up your antioxidants, too.

Agree.

Jan
 
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