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tcomeau - 27 Sep 2004 20:01 GMT

http://www.redflagsweekly.com/conferences/Atkins_diet/2004_feb23.html

Interesting article.

TC

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Matti Narkia - 27 Sep 2004 21:56 GMT

27 Sep 2004 12:01:46 -0700 in article
<b550f406.0409271101.284a48bd@posting.google.com> tunderbar@hotmail.com

>http://www.redflagsweekly.com/conferences/Atkins_diet/2004_feb23.html
>
>Interesting article.

Additional reading:

Feinman RD, Fine EJ.
Thermodynamics and Metabolic Advantage of Weight Loss Diets.
Metabolic Syndrome and Related Disorders 2003, 1:209-219.
<URL:http://miranda.ingentaselect.com/vl=3620192/cl=204/nw=1/rpsv/cw/mal/15404196/v1n
3/s7/p209>
(abstract)
<URL:http://taddeo.ingentaselect.com/vl=5598164/cl=39/nw=1/fm=docpdf/rpsv/cw/mal/1540
4196/v1n3/s7/p209>
(full text, PDF)

Feinman RD, Fine EJ.
"A calorie is a calorie" violates the second law of thermodynamics.
Nutr J. 2004 Jul 28;3(1):9.
PMID: 15282028 [PubMed - as supplied by publisher]
<URL:http://www.nutritionj.com/content/3/1/9>

Buchholz AC, Schoeller DA.
Is a calorie a calorie?
Am J Clin Nutr. 2004 May;79(5):899S-906S. Review.
PMID: 15113737 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
<URL:http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abstract/79/5/899S>

Willett WC, Skerrett PJ.
Going beyond Atkins.
Newsweek. 2004 Jan 19;143(3):44-8.
<URL:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3927814/site/newsweek/>

Willett WC, Leibel RL.
Dietary fat is not a major determinant of body fat.
Am J Med. 2002 Dec 30;113 Suppl 9B:47S-59S. Review.
PMID: 12566139 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
<URL:http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstra
ct&list_uids=12566139>

Willett WC, Stampfer MJ.
Rebuilding the food pyramid.
Sci Am. 2003 Jan;288(1):64-71.
http://tinyurl.com/55yna
http://tinyurl.com/5n9gn

Willett WC.
Dietary fat plays a major role in obesity: no.
Obes Rev. 2002 May;3(2):59-68. Review.
PMID: 12120421 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
<URL:http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/links/doi/10.1046/j.1467-789X.2002.00060.x/abs/>

Pawlak DB, Ebbeling CB, Ludwig DS
Should obese patients be counselled to follow a low-glycaemic index diet?
Yes.
Obes Rev. 2002 Nov;3(4):235-43. Review.
PMID: 12458970 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
<URL:http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/links/doi/10.1046/j.1467-789X.2002.00079.x/abs/>

van Dam RM, Willett WC, Rimm EB, Stampfer MJ, Hu FB.
Dietary fat and meat intake in relation to risk of type 2 diabetes in men.
Diabetes Care. 2002 Mar;25(3):417-24.
PMID: 11874924 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
<URL:http://care.diabetesjournals.org/cgi/content/full/25/3/417http://care.diabetesjo
urnals.org/cgi/content/full/25/3/417>

Salmeron J, Hu FB, Manson JE, Stampfer MJ, Colditz GA, Rimm EB, Willett WC.
Dietary fat intake and risk of type 2 diabetes in women.
Am J Clin Nutr. 2001 Jun;73(6):1019-26.
PMID: 11382654 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
<URL:http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/73/6/1019>

McCullough ML, Feskanich D, Rimm EB, Giovannucci EL, Ascherio A, Variyam JN,
Spiegelman D, Stampfer MJ, Willett WC.
Adherence to the Dietary Guidelines for Americans and risk of major chronic
disease in men.
Am J Clin Nutr. 2000 Nov;72(5):1223-31.
PMID: 11063453 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
<URL:http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/72/5/1223>

Liu S, Willett WC, Stampfer MJ, Hu FB, Franz M, Sampson L, Hennekens CH,
Manson JE.
A prospective study of dietary glycemic load, carbohydrate intake, and risk
of coronary heart disease in US women.
Am J Clin Nutr. 2000 Jun;71(6):1455-61.
PMID: 10837285 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
<URL:http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/71/6/1455>

Ludwig DS.
Dietary glycemic index and obesity.
J Nutr. 2000 Feb;130(2S Suppl):280S-283S. Review.
PMID: 10721888 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
<URL:http://www.nutrition.org/cgi/content/full/130/2/280S>

Bray GA, Popkin BM.
Dietary fat affects obesity rate.
Am J Clin Nutr. 1999 Oct;70(4):572-3
<URL:http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/70/4/572#R3>

Hu FB, Stampfer MJ, Rimm E, Ascherio A, Rosner BA, Spiegelman D, Willett WC.
Dietary fat and coronary heart disease: a comparison of approaches for
adjusting for total energy intake and modeling repeated dietary
measurements.
Am J Epidemiol. 1999 Mar 15;149(6):531-40.
PMID: 10084242 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
<URL:http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstra
ct&list_uids=10084242>

Willett WC.
Dietary fat and obesity: an unconvincing relation.
Am J Clin Nutr. 1998 Dec;68(6):1149-50.
<URL:http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/reprint/68/6/1149>

Bray GA, Popkin BM.
Dietary fat intake does affect obesity!
Am J Clin Nutr. 1998 Dec;68(6):1157-73. Review.
PMID: 9846842 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
<URL:http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/reprint/68/6/1157>

Willett WC.
Is dietary fat a major determinant of body fat?
Am J Clin Nutr. 1998 Mar;67(3 Suppl):556S-562S. Review. Erratum in: Am J
Clin Nutr 1999 Aug;70(2):304.
PMID: 9497170 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
<URL:http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/reprint/67/3/556S>
<URL:http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/70/2/304> (Erratum)

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Philippic - 28 Sep 2004 05:11 GMT

Interesting stuff, Matti!

But look at this bit:
(from<URL:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3927814/site/newsweek/>)
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"Robert Atkins deserves credit for publicizing the perils of refined
carbohydrates, but the centerpiece of the original Atkins diet-eating
unlimited amounts of beef, sausage, butter and cheese-is a bad idea.
Although such a diet may be good for short-term weight loss, it's not a
prescription for optimal health. A diet that includes fish, poultry, beans,
nuts, fruits and vegetables, whole grains and vegetable oils can work for
weight control even as it reduces the risks of heart disease, diabetes and
several cancers."
-------

The above is *really unfair* on Atkins: the book I have *has no such
'centerpiece'*; it gives no permission *whatsoever* for eating 'sausage' *at
all* (no doubt on account of all the carbohydrate-containing crap that is
added to the meat from which sausages are ostensibly made...); it points out
that 'cheese' always has some carbohydrate content, and that the amounts to
be eaten are *limited by that*; and rather than saying any such nitwit thing
about 'unlimited butter' (whatever that would be!), it simply says that
'butter is allowed, margarine is not'! On top of that, for chrissakes, the
Atkins diet *is* a diet that 'includes fish, poultry, beans, nuts, fruits
and vegetables, whole grains and vegetable oils'... -- indeed, it actually,
genuinely, *specifically* includes *unlimited* amounts of fish, and
*unlimited* amounts of poultry!!!!

Jeeezes!! What the hell is it that makes people incapable of dealing fairly
and accurately with Atkins...?

Philippic

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Matti Narkia - 28 Sep 2004 10:54 GMT

Mon, 27 Sep 2004 23:56:33 +0300 in article
<7osgl0t889n9cuscdfgm9hn3dkjrrrmjll@4ax.com> Matti Narkia
<mnng1_REMOVE_THIS@despammed.com> wrote:

>27 Sep 2004 12:01:46 -0700 in article
><b550f406.0409271101.284a48bd@posting.google.com> tunderbar@hotmail.com
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>>
>Additional reading:

[snip]

>Willett WC, Stampfer MJ.
>Rebuilding the food pyramid.
>Sci Am. 2003 Jan;288(1):64-71.
>http://tinyurl.com/55yna
>http://tinyurl.com/5n9gn

See also

Food Pyramids
Nutrition Source, Harvard School of Public Health
<URL:http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/pyramids.html>

and

The Mediterranean Diet Pyramid
<URL:http://www.oldwayspt.org/pyramids/med/p_med.html>
<URL:http://www.e-guana.net/organizations.php3?orgid=61&typeID=193&action=printConten
tItem&itemID=1529>
<URL:http://www.diet-i.com/mediterranean-diet-pyramid.htm>

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Matti Narkia - 28 Sep 2004 14:59 GMT

Mon, 27 Sep 2004 23:56:33 +0300 in article
<7osgl0t889n9cuscdfgm9hn3dkjrrrmjll@4ax.com> Matti Narkia
<mnng1_REMOVE_THIS@despammed.com> wrote:

>27 Sep 2004 12:01:46 -0700 in article
><b550f406.0409271101.284a48bd@posting.google.com> tunderbar@hotmail.com
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>PMID: 15282028 [PubMed - as supplied by publisher]
><URL:http://www.nutritionj.com/content/3/1/9>

More reading

Walter C Willett, MD, DrPH
Concepts and Controversies on Diet: Stop Recommending Low-Fat Diets!
<URL:http://xnet.kp.org/permanentejournal/sum03/concepts.html>:

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