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Medical Forum / General / Nutrition / October 2004Unrecognized iron deficiency can impair immunity in older women
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2004-09/ps-uid092904.php >Subject: Unrecognized iron deficiency can impair immunity in older women >From: markd@toad-net.com >Date: 9/29/2004 9:06 AM Mountain Daylight Time >Message-id: <415acf59$0$248$4d5ecec7@reader.city-net.com> So I suppose since the most recent work has shown a much HIGHER prevalence of iron overload / excess as opposed to iron .. deficiency .. IN .. the elderly .. then this article doesn't REALLY pertain to a whole lot of people .. Does it .. So .. again .. markd .. contributes .. NOT .. a whole fkg .. lot .. But THAT .. is .. markd .. Heh .. heh .. -------------------------------------------------------- http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2004-09/ps-uid092904.php Who loves ya. Tom  SignatureJesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com Man Is A Herbivore! http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/manisaherbivore DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/deadpeoplewalking >"doe" <ironjustice@aol.comdoe> wrote > >Subject: Unrecognized iron deficiency can impair immunity in older women [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > iron overload / excess as opposed to iron .. deficiency .. IN .. the elderly .. > then this article doesn't REALLY pertain to a whole lot of people .. In your dreams. In contrast to "your recent work" of whatever fantasy you subscribe to, most of the elderly patients that I have worked with had ferritin on the lower scale and required either greater dietary intake of iron sources (meat), or supplementation. When are you ever going to learn that citing any number of hand- picked abstracts, which mean absolutely nothing, have little or no bearing of what actually is happening in the real world. You'll be happy to know that I have had my own elderly mother on iron supplementation for years, and it keeps all kinds of low iron-related medical situations well under control. I can sympathize with your own iron-overload dilemma, but instead of being under the illusion of EVERYONE having liver damage, I would concentrate on just fixing your own (have you considered a liver transplant?), not everyone else's. Have a nice day..........Harlaching >Subject: Re: Unrecognized iron deficiency can impair immunity in older women >From: "Harlaching" h2004@noyb.net [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] >damage, I would concentrate on just fixing your own (have you >considered a liver transplant?), not everyone else's. Since I have no liver problems .. this post enforces the conclusion .. you .. are mentally .. ill .. Take some more .. iron .. Have some with your .. mother .. Quality .. time .. Heh .. heh .. Who loves ya. Tom SignatureJesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com Man Is A Herbivore! http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/manisaherbivore DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/deadpeoplewalking > Since I have no liver problems .. Sure you don't. Someone with hemachromotosis is as likely to have a normal liver, as a T1 diabetic has a normal pancreas. > Take some more .. iron .. > Have some with your .. mother .. > Quality .. time .. > Heh .. heh .. I myself don't take iron supplements, but I make sure to have enough meat every day so that my ferritin doesn't go too low. Have a nice day...........Harlaching >Subject: Re: Unrecognized iron deficiency can impair immunity in older women >From: "Harlaching" h2004@noyb.net [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Sure you don't. Someone with hemachromotosis I will reiterate .. I have no diseases .. I am not ill .. It would not be appropriate for one knowing the cause of all disease to .. actually .. have .. a disease .. Now .. would .. it .. >Someone with hemachromotosis is as likely to have >a normal liver, as a T1 diabetic has a normal pancreas. Yep .. the odds are the same .. Damage to liver .. damage to pancreatic beta cells .. Who loves ya. Tom SignatureJesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com Man Is A Herbivore! http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/manisaherbivore DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/deadpeoplewalking > >Subject: Re: Unrecognized iron deficiency can impair immunity in older > >women [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Now .. would .. it .. Then why are you yellow ? >Subject: Re: Unrecognized iron deficiency can impair immunity in older women >From: "Manky Badger" spam@puritanDOTfreeserve.FULLSTOPcoSPOTuk [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > >Then why are you yellow ? I ain't .. hard .. to find .. IF .. you tried .. Means you are shtty at a lot more than .. medicine .. Heh .. heh .. Who loves ya. Tom SignatureJesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com Man Is A Herbivore! http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/manisaherbivore DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/deadpeoplewalking "It would not be appropriate for one knowing the cause of all disease to ..actually .. have .. a disease .." Except it is well known that low iron causes disorders of cognition, in which case such a self assessment is of little value and needs some tether to reality. You are dying, we all do, and the processes which cause it are well underway in you, reduce iron to 0 and that process will be greatly enhanced. >>Then why are you yellow ? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Means you are shtty at a lot more than .. medicine .. OK, Yellow. Now you're talking to me again, answer the question. In all honesty between the rants on iron, anti-oxidants, crackpot religions, being called a dildo, being threatened with fisticuffs, and papers that seem totally unrelated to all of this I must admit that I've rather lost the gist of the "iron hypothesis". Please could you explain exactly what it is with iron ? "I can sympathize with your own iron-overload dilemma, but instead of being under the illusion of EVERYONE having liver damage, I would concentrate on just fixing your own (have you considered a liver transplant?), not everyone else's." Sorry to hear about the liver problem tom. |
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