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The New Plague
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Ron - 18 Sep 2004 19:11 GMT .
From: "Robert Cohen" <notmilk@e...> Date: Sat Sep 18, 2004 10:31 am Subject: Another Reason to Immediately Stop Consuming Dairy
Another Reason to Immediately Stop Consuming Dairy
There is a new plague, and it may soon be thriving in your bloodstream, and you'll never again for the rest of your life have a normal bowel movement. You can become infected by drinking just one glass of milk, or by swallowing your next bite of cheese.
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The September issue of a most esteemed British medical journal, The Lancet (364: 1039-44), confirms that the blood from Crohn's patients is teeming with bacteria (mycobacterium paratuberculosis) that cause irritable bowels and worse.
Dirty disgusting dangerous pathogens from diseased animals pass directly to you from their tainted body fluids. Concentrated in the cheese and ice cream. Is it worth the risk to continue eating such toxic disease-bearing food?
In their study, scientists at the Department of Molecular Biology and Microbiology at the University of Central Florida cultured mycobacterium paratuberculosis directly from the blood of patients suffering from Crohn's Disease. Data from their experiment suggest that this bacterium may very well be the cause of Crohn's Disease.
So, what else is new? We've been making that same claim, based upon scientific evidence, since June of 1998:
<http://www.notmilk.com/hs/062898.txt >
How many people with irritable bowels, ulcerative colitis, and Crohn's Disease would have been spared a lifetime of suffering, had the truth been released to all people eight years ago? The most painful part of this unprecedented conspiracy of silence is that gastroenterologists knew the truth, but remained mute. So too did the folks at USDA. Of course, this bacterium is the biggest fear of America's dairy industry. They knew, and continued to poison trusting Americans.
Numbers do not lie. In September of 1996, the Proceedings for the National Academy of Sciences reported in their journal:
"Mycobacterium paratuberculosis RNA was found in 100% of Crohn's disease patients, compared with 0% of controls."
The most serious bacterial disease of cows is caused by mycobacterium paratuberculosis. Mycobacterium paratuberculosis causes a bovine disease called "Johne's." Cows diagnosed with Johne's Disease have diarrhea and heavy fecal shedding of bacteria. This bacteria becomes cultured in milk and is not destroyed by pasteurization. Occasionally, the milk borne bacteria will begin to grow in the human host, and irritable bowel syndrome and Crohn's results.
How long has the scientific establishment known about this horror story? In 1992, the Journal of Clinical Microbiology (1992;30(12):3070-3073) reported:
"It is reasonable to conjecture that M. paratuberculosis may be responsible for some cases of Crohn's disease."
Is there proof that dairy farmers knew? On January 24, 1995, Hoard's Dairyman, the national dairy farmers magazine, revealed:
"Johne's disease and Crohn's disease are remarkably similar in clinical signs and intestinal pathology."
In February of 1998, a study performed by J. Hermon-Taylor and published in the British Medical Journal revealed:
"Mycobacterium Paratuberculosis crosses the species barrier to infect and cause disease in humans."
Why didn't you know this? Because...your doctor did not tell you. He or she reads medical journals. Was there not an obligation to inform patients? Keeping people sick is certainly good for business.
Does pasteurization destroy mycobacterium paratuberculosis? Not on your life. The March, 1998 issue of Applied Environmental Microbiology revealed:
"Mycobacterium paratuberculosis is capable of surviving commercial pasteurization, when there are more than 10 bacteria per milliliter in raw milk."
In her "Ministry of Healing," Ellen G. White wrote (page 271):
"In order to have good health, we must have good blood; for the blood is the current of life. It repairs waste and nourishes the body. When supplied with the proper food elements and when cleansed and vitalized by contact with pure air, it carries life and vigor to every part of the system."
White wrote about diet's role in maintaining good blood. She never suspected that human blood could become contaminated by a bacterial infection.
Bacteria in the bloodstream? Your kids? Your family? Your friends? You? Before it's too late, take the advice of a man who was once chief of pediatrics at Johns Hopkins Medical College. Long before he knew of the Crohn's connection, Dr. Frank Oski wrote a book with this title:
"Don't Drink Your Milk!"
Robert Cohen http://www.notmilk.com
John Que - 18 Sep 2004 21:09 GMT There is ultra-pasturized milk which is fully sterilized so that should be safer. And yogurt which contains live flora has been shown to greatly reduce the Helibactor pylori loads in the stomach..
The observation of the organism in the bloodstream maybe the effect not the cause of the disease process which even if true isn't good, either.
Now, I'll go eat a bowl of yogurt with fruit:-)
"One man's meat is another man poison"
> . > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Data from their experiment suggest that this bacterium > may very well be the cause of Crohn's Disease. Oz - 19 Sep 2004 09:54 GMT John Que <Homemade@lightening.edu> writes
>There is ultra-pasturized milk which is fully sterilized >so that should be safer. Ugh!
I'll just carry on drinking unpasteurised milk straight from the bulk tank, just like 99.99% of dairy farmers and their staff do.
Does that tell you something?
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Gordon Couger - 20 Sep 2004 08:56 GMT > John Que <Homemade@lightening.edu> writes > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Does that tell you something? Oz
You and I are immune to a great many things that folks in the city are not because they have been raised in an environment that they are not exposed to the germs in childhood. If you notice the stockman that has cattle with e. coli:h157 never gets the disease but a kid from the city can catch it just from walking across the dairy. You and I have at one time or another been covered in manure and inhaled it as areoles and are no worse for it. I expect that the USA is more subscribe to milk born disease than the UK because we have had pasteurized milk so much longer and raw milk is very difficult to get. Even thought we have lower Bang's and TB in the herd than the UK because we have lower stocking densities for the calves. Or at least that is what I think. Neither one of us is like to be rid of either one in the near future. I can find you references on that in the merging diseases mailing list.
The link between Johne's can Chrone's disease is a thin one at best. The cause of Chrone's and IBS in humans is far from a solved problem. A pilot program with 14 subjects Chrone's and IBS got remissions in almost all of them by dosing them with pin worm larva from swine every three week with no side effects. The worms from pigs will not set up house keeping in humans. The contention of that group is that IBS and Chrone's is an over active immune system that is attacking the bowel when there are no nematodes present. It fits better than that Johne's as a cause as immune system suppression has been the gold standard treatment for years. I have been following IBS and Chrone's for years. Thirty years ago I had a 3 week bought of IBS and it is a pretty serious disease. If you can't get it under control it doesn't take long to kill you.
Milk is one of the safest foods in the western world. People with compromised immune systems have a unique problem. A trip to the salad bar is like a game of Russian roulette for you or I. They are breeding a super malaria and TB that may be a real problem in the very near future. We may get real serious about mosquito control if we get multidrug resistant Malaria back in the USA and th EU.
The group use pin worms from swine rather than a human nematode that causes minimal problems becuse it requires treatment every 3 weeks and a human nematode would only take one treatment every 1 to 3 year and be a lot less profitable.
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Oz - 20 Sep 2004 09:33 GMT Gordon Couger <gcouger@NOSPAMprovalue.net> writes
>Oz > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >coli:h157 never gets the disease but a kid from the city can catch it just >from walking across the dairy. Of course, but remember I was reared in the middle of london until I was 22. I'm not suggesting unpasteurised milk would be a good thing to sell all over the country, it wouldn't keep as well for one thing, but I am suggesting its not quite the hazard people think. 50 years ago was quite another matter.
>You and I have at one time or another been >covered in manure and inhaled it as aerosols and are no worse for it. Please don't remind me .... And NEVER mention slurry irrigation.
>The link between Johne's can Chrone's disease is a thin one at best. The >cause of Chrone's and IBS in humans is far from a solved problem. A pilot [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >of IBS and it is a pretty serious disease. If you can't get it under control >it doesn't take long to kill you. Noted. There have been programs to this effect on TV.
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Advocate147 - 21 Sep 2004 03:29 GMT Can't cut and paste but wish to respond to Gordon Couger's post. One more opportunity to speak of the cause of crohns. Nothing to do with MAP, genetics, animals, except the human kind. Humans are not infallible and do not always consider the seemingly impossible. Well, crohns has an improbable cause and is manmade. Read my layman's theory on the cause of crohns and you can consider it gospel, because tho unpublished it just happens to be one of the mysteries of life and true. The sooner revealed, the sooner the Plague will diminish at least. Website is http://ascc.healingwell.com/info/gailfaq.htm Read a reply to MAP studies on Alt.crohns-colitis newsgroup entitled "Plague" Strange and almost unbelievable, illogical, weird, stupid, all that is crohns and the cause is no better. Also natural herbs with natural stimulants can cause crohns as can Xanax, Buspar, Depakote, Flexeril, kava kava, st johns wort, etc etc. etc. The flouishing business of stimulants are the cause and anti-depressants the major offender. If you must have an anti-depressant, try Damitol, guaranteed to ease the suffering.
Gail Michael Disgusting and CRIMINAL is the time and resources used for pursuing MAP and other useless pursuits.
Advocate147 - 21 Sep 2004 03:33 GMT Sorry, the title of the post on Alt.support.crohns-colitis is "Clear: bacteria link to Crohn's" What a peaceful world this can be from crohns for many. Gail
Dean Hoffman - 22 Sep 2004 02:15 GMT On 9/20/04 2:56 AM, in article t2w3d.47466$OZ6.23896@okepread06, "Gordon Couger" <gcouger@NOSPAMprovalue.net> wrote:
> You and I are immune to a great many things that folks in the city are not > because they have been raised in an environment that they are not exposed to [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > the near future. I can find you references on that in the merging diseases > mailing list. I read awhile back that it's good for kids to have pets. There seems to be a link between a lack of pets and asthma. It's something about a lack of germs and an under active immune system, I think. Dean
Larry Hoover - 20 Sep 2004 14:14 GMT > John Que <Homemade@lightening.edu> writes > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Does that tell you something? Indeed it does. And so does the complete name of the microbe in question. It's Mycobacterium avium, ssp. paratuberculosis. It was first indentified in birds, and is ubiquitous in the environment. It has been cultured from potable (drinking) water, for example. It's everywhere. Blaming cows milk as a sole source is either a political act, or a naive one.
Lar
Advocate147 - 21 Sep 2004 03:07 GMT "The observation of the organism in the bloodstream may be the effect not the cause of the disease process (crohns). What horrible misinformation from the British medical journal, the Lancet. Before long, the only choices left to eat will be McDonalds, and I guess they better discontinue their milkshakes. A world without milk, well, there is always wine.
Gail
Jim Webster - 18 Sep 2004 23:26 GMT > . > > From: "Robert Cohen" <notmilk@e...> > Date: Sat Sep 18, 2004 10:31 am > Subject: Another Reason to Immediately Stop Consuming Dairy yawn, same old story but still no evidence,
It looks as if the best reason for drinking milk is that hysteria seems to grab those who avoid it
Jim Webster
Jeff - 19 Sep 2004 02:24 GMT > . > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > can become infected by drinking just one glass of > milk, or by swallowing your next bite of cheese. Pasturized milk has been around since the days of Pasteur, before WWII.
I doubt very much that this "new" plague is just suddenly showing up.
> Scare tactics or real science? Scare tactics.
(...)
Jeff
Robert - 19 Sep 2004 05:44 GMT Am J Gastroenterol. 2004 Aug;99(8):1539-43. Related Articles, Links
Bacterial DNA within granulomas of patients with Crohn's disease--detection by laser capture microdissection and PCR.
Ryan P, Kelly RG, Lee G, Collins JK, O'Sullivan GC, O'Connell J, Shanahan F.
Alimentary Pharmabiotic Centre; and Departments of Medicine, Histopathology, Microbiology, and Surgery, University College Cork, National University of Ireland, Ireland.
OBJECTIVES: We previously reported the use of laser capture microdissection (LCM) and PCR to detect the presence of Mycobacterium paratuberculosis DNA in granulomas of patients with Crohn's disease. While this does not imply a cause-effect relationship, it may influence the disease process because bacterial DNA has immunomodulatory effects. The aim of this study was to determine whether DNA from nonmycobacterial commensals, such as Escherichia coli, is also increased in the granulomas of Crohn's disease. METHODS: Archival tissue from 15 surgical cases of Crohn's disease and 10 non-Crohn's granulomatous bowel disease controls were examined. Granulomas were isolated using LCM, and the extracted DNA was examined for presence of E. coli DNA by nested PCR amplification of a 135 base-pair segment of the uidA gene. RESULTS: E. coli DNA was detected in microdissected granulomas in 12/15 Crohn's disease patients and in 1/10 non-Crohn's control granulomas (p < 0.001). Also, E. coli DNA was detected in 8/15 Crohn's full-thickness sections and in 4/10 control full-thickness sections. CONCLUSIONS: E. coli DNA may be detected more frequently in Crohn's granulomas than in other non-Crohn's bowel granulomas. This may indicate a tendency for lumenal bacteria to colonize inflamed tissue, or may be due to increased uptake of bacterial DNA by gut antigen presenting cells. In light of previous detection of M. paratuberculosis DNA in Crohn's granulomas, the nonspecific nature of the type of bacterial DNA present in granulomas is evidence against any one bacterium having a significant causative role in Crohn's disease. Copyright 2004 American College of Gastroenterology
PMID: 15307874 [PubMed - in process]
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