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Is Pure Water Bad to Drink?

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MelbaTatum - 21 Jul 2004 10:06 GMT
I'll start with a brief summary, then let you read and would like your
comments.

The gist of this posting is that Distilled Water (or RO water or pure water) is
said by some experts to be damaging to the body, used in long term. That
because pure water is so corrosive, so active in leeching out minerals and in
creating an acid environment that it prematurely ages and damages the body.

When I read this, I thought....probably that is nonsense. But, I got out my pH
tester I used for my fish tank and I decided to check and see if Pure Water was
acidic or alkaline. I tried first my tap water and it was mildly alkaline at
7.4 pH. Next I bought a gallon of distilled water and it tested acidic at a pH
of 6.2. Then I tested the gallon of Reverse Osmosis filtered water which I
usually buy (and refill myself) at WalMart. It also tested quite acidic at 6.2
pH. This got me thinking, "Is this guy onto something, here?" Here is the link
to an article by a Dr.Zoltan Rana,

http://www.mercola.com/article/water/distilled_water.htm

Btw, I have nothing to sell to you nor anything to buy. I suggest us folks get
out our pH tester and test the "pure" water we are drinking. I tend to agree
now that our main drinking water source should be slightly alkaline and
definitely should not be acidic. Here are some quotes from the above link,

Early Death Comes From Drinking Distilled Water    
   
During nearly 19 years of clinical practice I have had the opportunity to
observe the health effects of drinking different types of water.
   
Distilled water is an active absorber and when it comes into contact with air,
it absorbs carbon dioxide, making it acidic. The more distilled water a person
drinks, the higher the body acidity becomes.
   
The most toxic commercial beverages that people consume (i.e. cola beverages
and other soft drinks) are made from distilled water. Studies have consistently
shown that heavy consumers of soft drinks (with or without sugar) spill huge
amounts of calcium, magnesium and other trace minerals into the urine.
The more mineral loss, the greater the risk for osteoporosis, osteoarthritis,
hypothyroidism, coronary artery disease, high blood pressure and a long list of
degenerative diseases generally associated with premature aging.

A growing number of health care practitioners and scientists from around the
world have been advocating the theory that aging and disease is the direct
result of the accumulation of acid waste products in the body.
   
There is a correlation between the consumption of soft water (distilled water
is extremely soft) and the incidence of cardiovascular disease. Cells, tissues
and organs do not like to be dipped in acid and will do anything to buffer this
acidity including the removal of minerals from the skeleton and the manufacture
of bicarbonate in the blood.
Jeff - 21 Jul 2004 13:23 GMT
> I'll start with a brief summary, then let you read and would like your
> comments.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> because pure water is so corrosive, so active in leeching out minerals and in
> creating an acid environment that it prematurely ages and damages the body.

This is utter bullshit.

The concern about distilled water is  that it does not contain trace
minerals.

> When I read this, I thought....probably that is nonsense. But, I got out my pH
> tester I used for my fish tank and I decided to check and see if Pure Water was
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> pH. This got me thinking, "Is this guy onto something, here?" Here is the link
> to an article by a Dr.Zoltan Rana,

You body has these neat things that keep the pH of your body in the proper
range: kidneys. That right. Drink a little too much acid (or make too much
acid) and you will literally pee out the extra acid.

> http://www.mercola.com/article/water/distilled_water.htm

If you are citing an article by that a.shole Mercola, you aren't thinking
much at all. Mercola is a total idiot. His site can't be trusted for
anything.

> Btw, I have nothing to sell to you nor anything to buy. I suggest us folks get
> out our pH tester and test the "pure" water we are drinking. I tend to agree
> now that our main drinking water source should be slightly alkaline and
> definitely should not be acidic. Here are some quotes from the above link,

(Garbage quotes from Mercola deleted).

The pH of water doesn't tell you how pure it is. Only how acidic or alkaline
it is. And as long as the water tastes good, the pH is ok.

Jeff
Mxsmanic - 21 Jul 2004 14:58 GMT
> The gist of this posting is that Distilled Water (or RO water or pure water) is
> said by some experts to be damaging to the body, used in long term.

False.

> That because pure water is so corrosive, so active in leeching
> out minerals and in creating an acid environment that it
> prematurely ages and damages the body.

Pure water is perfectly neutral in pH, being neither acid nor alkaline.
Pure water is not corrosive.

> When I read this, I thought....probably that is nonsense.

You thought correctly.

> But, I got out my pH> tester I used for my fish tank and I decided to check
> and see if Pure Water was
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> usually buy (and refill myself) at WalMart. It also tested quite acidic at 6.2
> pH. This got me thinking, "Is this guy onto something, here?"

No, it just means that none of your samples was pure water.  Pure water
has a pH of 7.0.

> Btw, I have nothing to sell to you nor anything to buy. I suggest us folks get
> out our pH tester and test the "pure" water we are drinking. I tend to agree
> now that our main drinking water source should be slightly alkaline and
> definitely should not be acidic. Here are some quotes from the above link,

It doesn't matter.  Your stomach is far more acidic than any water you
will ever drink.

> Distilled water is an active absorber ...

Distilled water is not necessarily pure water.

> ... and when it comes into contact with air, it absorbs carbon dioxide,
> making it acidic.

So why can't I etch glass with an open bottle of distilled water after
leaving it outside for a week?

> The more distilled water a person drinks, the higher the body acidity becomes.

No.  Ingested water does not control body pH.  It's a _lot_ more
complicated than that.  Remember, your stomach is already filled with
some very, very nasty acid, far worse than anything you might drink
(indeed, if you drank anything as acidic as stomach juices, it would
burn a hole through your esophagus).

> The most toxic commercial beverages that people consume (i.e. cola beverages
> and other soft drinks) are made from distilled water.

Cola beverages and soft drinks are not toxic.

> Studies have consistently shown that heavy consumers of soft drinks
> (with or without sugar) spill huge amounts of calcium, magnesium
> and other trace minerals into the urine.

Which studies, and how was cause and effect proven?

> The more mineral loss, the greater the risk for osteoporosis, osteoarthritis,
> hypothyroidism, coronary artery disease, high blood pressure and a long list of
> degenerative diseases generally associated with premature aging.

Drinking pure water does not cause mineral loss.

> A growing number of health care practitioners and scientists from around the
> world have been advocating the theory that aging and disease is the direct
> result of the accumulation of acid waste products in the body.

They must be quite silent, then, as I've never heard about this.

> There is a correlation between the consumption of soft water (distilled water
> is extremely soft) ...

Soft water is not distilled water.  Distilled and soft water are both
different from pure water.

> ... and the incidence of cardiovascular disease.

"Soft" water simply doesn't leave deposits on pipes.  It's quite
different from _pure_ water, though.

> Cells, tissues and organs do not like to be dipped in acid and will
> do anything to buffer this acidity including the removal of minerals
> from the skeleton and the manufacture of bicarbonate in the blood.

Water is not acid.

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Larry Hoover - 22 Jul 2004 04:48 GMT
> > The gist of this posting is that Distilled Water (or RO water or pure water) is
> > said by some experts to be damaging to the body, used in long term.
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> No, it just means that none of your samples was pure water.  Pure water
> has a pH of 7.0.

The idea that 6.2 is quite acidic is actually quite...idioti....wrong. That
is a very mild change in acidity. The little p in pH means "minus log of".
That isn't even an order of magnitude disturbance in the natural
concentration of [H30]+.

Although it might technically be true that pure water has a pH of 7.0, in
reality, dissolved carbon dioxide in the water can have the pH as low as
about 5.5, though that value is dependent on temperature. In other words,
only *degassed* pure water has a pH of 7.0.

You can calculate the pH if you know the CO2 concentration in the water,
from the separate pKa's for carbonic acid and bicarbonate anion, in the
following reaction sequence:

3H2O + CO2 --> 2H20 + H2CO3 --> H2O + [H3O]+ + [HCO3]-  -->  2 [H3O]+ +
[CO3]--

Boiling drives out CO2, which shifts both equilibria to the left. If you
boil long enough, pH goes to 7.0. The moment you let it cool, CO2 starts to
dissolve back in, and the pH falls anew.

Distilled water is not good for you because it contains no minerals. Hard
water is good for your heart. Soft water is not the same as distilled water.
It is instead full of sodium as the cation, rather than the divalent calcium
and magnesium found in hard water.

The rest of whatever that "doctor" said is hogwash. Your blood pH is
regulated by the bicarbonate buffer system. You give off CO2 in your exhaled
breath as one means of avoiding excess blood acidity. If breathing alone is
not sufficient, there are other automatic processes such as kidney dumping,
that keep the pH balanced.

Lar
Mxsmanic - 22 Jul 2004 17:39 GMT
> Distilled water is not good for you because it contains no minerals.

Distilled water is not bad for you, either.

> Hard water is good for your heart.

It depends on what makes it hard, but in most cases I'd say that hard
water has no effect either way.  You get far more minerals out of what
you eat.

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